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Firstly, fix your quote tags...

Secondly, I meant BBMolla.

P-Edit: Ikr

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Lost Butterfly (5): Pyrotechnics, ProHawk, zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork, 1baldeagle1
Garuda (1): uʍop ǝpısdn
zMuffinMan (1): BBmolla
1baldeagle1 (1): VoidedMafia
VoidedMafia (1): Lost Butterfly

Not Voting (12): PeregrineV, Nero Cain, Seanald, guille2015, Garuda, morph the cat, Banakai, Harakiri, Hermy, Zdenek, DoctorPepper, Klick



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What even happened there? Where did these broken tags begin?

1baldeagle1 wrote:Firstly, fix your quote tags...

In post 65, 1baldeagle1 wrote: P-Edit: GET YOUR QUOTE TAGS FIXED, PLEASE PREVIEW YOUR POSTS SO THAT ALL OF THE TAGS ARE WORKING. I HATE BROKEN QUOTE TAGS.

Did your 90 bother you much then Eagle?

lb wrote:what's your current read on baldeagle?

maybe scum. i don't believe the "omg more than 3 scums!??!" thing, all the "misunderstandings" he's had about hthe setup look fake. why are you specifically asking me this?

baldy wrote:Elaborate.

there was almost no content in #86. it's a wall full of meaningless questions and empty comments. he also completely avoided anything related to the LB votes, which is sus as fuck considering that's the main topic of conversation right now.

also there's an incredible amount of iioa and fluff in all of baldy's posts, compared to zero actual content.

In post 86, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 10, Pyrotechnics wrote:I submit that whoever won it needs to claim it so that we can evaluate them.

Why?

You were in the last game. Not only were you in the last game, but you were part of the neighborhood in the last game. Why would you ask why?

In post 37, Pyrotechnics wrote:. Neighborizer is the only way they'll be able to communicate. I want to make sure the neighborizer is town.

...uh, how?

How do you read anyone as town? We can evaluate the neighborizer, which as far as I'm concerned is one of the most important roles right now, just like we do anyone else as well as evaluate the neighborhood.

I don't get the purpose of either of your questions.

zmuffinman, welcome to my townbloc.

In post 93, zMuffinMan wrote:voided is scum

Ha.

What'cha got, then?

P-EDIT: Vote me, now? That's not nice, Mina.

I largely adverted EV for myself. Had thought of the possibility for better people than me to get it, but largely for myself (and to make sure scum didn't advert or get it later).

Bald does have the sound of someone who's not used to larges and feels a bit over his head, but his recent posts don't make me think he's town.

ED2:

That's what you went for?


PE3: If you remember, I wasn't in it until the last couple nights of the game. Also, they didn't claim they had neighborzer until it was necessary to finish the stranglehold we already had on the game. So that's not even relevant, and I still don't see why whoever got it needs to claim now.

I don't see the purpose of your proposal, either, so.

In post 105, zMuffinMan wrote:also there's an incredible amount of iioa and fluff in all of baldy's posts, compared to zero actual content.

Oh, sorry for not analyzing everyone's post in the first hour of the game.

The butterfly wagon needs more motivation, let me convince you all. Brb.

In post 37, Pyrotechnics wrote:They got cop, which means they're going to be looking for the other team at night. Neighborizer is the only way they'll be able to communicate. I want to make sure the neighborizer is town.

owait, this is referring to the two teams talking to each other. nvm.

P-EDIT: LB's fine, leave them be.

I'm actually interested in Lost Butterfly's response to the whole 'if the sole purpose was to keep it out of scum's hands, why was $100 too much?' thing

Voided why are you voting ProHawk?

If the winning amount on the Neighborizer was anything else, I'd agree whoever got it should claim. But it's exactly $100; if Mafia really wanted it, they would have bid that $1 extra. I'm pretty happy to say whoever has it is probtown.

In post 104, zMuffinMan wrote:it's a wall full of meaningless questions and empty comments.

Not really. Nice try generalizing, though.

In post 104, zMuffinMan wrote:also completely avoided anything related to the LB votes,

Sowwi, muffinman.

I don't see a problem with LB.


P-EDIT: I can agree with that.

In post 15, Lost Butterfly wrote:VOTE: Pyrotechnics

Anyone with the following abilities should claim right away: Deadline, Hitman, Investigative Immune, Nightkill. I'd want Extra Vote and Vote Freezer to claim, too.

We got Investigation Immune! I can't believe it was so cheap. We even bid $80 on it to keep it out of scum's hands.

Got an ability that helps scum (aka you?) Nice job! Congrats!

In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.

Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.

So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.

Fixed broken quote tag.

Just a question on the neighborzier claim thing.

In post 44, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, I think everyone should claim if they advertised or what they advertised on. Not the actual amount.

More claming.

In post 61, Lost Butterfly wrote:OMIGOD, STOP NINJAING ME.

@Prohawk: Interesting.

Why do you find that post so suspicious? I mean, is it

that

unlikely that a townie would bid on investigation immune?

1) Honestly, Faraday and I have been talking with Magua for the past couple of days in a hydra QT, but I'm not sure that's a "QT" slip so much as me being incompetent at formatting quotes. I posted BBcode tags in the hydra QT, too.

2) @Muffin: that question was a crosspost, and I didn't see baldeagle had actually answered.

Just some question answered, and blah blah.

In post 62, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 51, Pyrotechnics wrote:

In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.

Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.

So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.

VOTE: Lost Butterfly

One: You're responding to me when you should be asking baldeagle about vote freezer.

Two: I bid $100 on neighborizer as that's all I have.

Three: Garuda hasn't posted yet.

Four: Empire is part of Garuda. I'm the one who wants the neighborizer to claim. It should be pretty self-explanatory. The scum teams can win together. They have the cop role. Once they find each other, they can communicate through a neighborhood. (This is actually pretty certain. Last game it cost me over $500 to win the neighborizer from scum who had won cop and found the other team.) So, the neighborizer needs to claim so that we can evaluate them and keep track of the neighborhood if need be. Last game we were lucky and town won neighborizer both times and we used it really effectively, and we made public who won the neighborizer.

...oh.

Um...I...

...actually...thought your first post...was Garuda.

._______________________________.

Two mistakes now? You QT slipped (you must have been posting a crap load of stuff) and now you had some misinformation.

In post 63, Lost Butterfly wrote:GODDAMN FUCKING QUOTE TAGS.

Oh no! The evil quote tags have attacked!

In post 79, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 71, zMuffinMan wrote:

lost butterfly wrote:Why do you find that post so suspicious? I mean, is it that unlikely that a townie would bid on investigation immune?

not directed at me, but while i don't find going for investigation immunity suspicious, i do think that if scum really wanted it, $80 wouldn't be enough to stop them from getting it. and i think you would know this. you never answered upside down's question about why you thought $80 would be enough to stop scum getting it.

If you really wanted to stop scum from getting it, you would throw all of your money on it, not just some. Were you only able to bid $80 because you used your other $20 to help your scumbuddies?

Well, gee. I don't know. I guess I just thought $100 was too much to spend on an ability that was useless to me! And I wanted to save some extra money in the long term. We did consider going for $100, but then settled for $80. I'm not really sure what you think the difference between claiming $80 and $100 is. ^_^

I have been in a hydra before, but we don't talk a whole lot.

I talk A LOT with Faraday, but mostly on AIM. But for this game, I've been asking Magua five zillion questions about every single role interaction in the hydra QT.

If you really wanted to stop scum from getting it, you would throw all of your money on it, not just some. Were you only able to bid $80 because you used your other $20 to help your scumbuddies?

Also, like Pyro said, if you had lots of questions about the role interaction claims, then why are you asking for a reason on why neighborizer should claim?

In post 94, Lost Butterfly wrote:VOTE: Voidedmafia

HAIIII to you too!

Why did you advertise Extra Vote in particular? Also, thoughts on baldeagle's most recent posts?

Hey, Muffin, what's your current read on baldeagle?

Is it just me or he's trying to ask a bunch of people for my read on me in hopes of them calling me scum so the wagon goes off of him?

is that a case or just a quote of every post they've made?

It's actually a decent collection of reasons why Lost Butterfly isn't 'fine'

In post 116, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:is that a case or just a quote of every post they've made?

The latter is called ISO.

Yes, I went through his posts and it was mostly just claiming/questions/answering questions and trying to derail his own wagon.

In post 113, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:If the winning amount on the Neighborizer was anything else, I'd agree whoever got it should claim. But it's exactly $100; if Mafia really wanted it, they would have bid that $1 extra. I'm pretty happy to say whoever has it is probtown.

I don't care what you do think. We have no idea how much money the scum team has and how much they actually bid on things. The deadline and the nightkill went for over $100 so we have no idea how much they had left.

I don't understand why town wouldn't want to claim having the neighborhood as there would be absolutely no reason not to.

Let's look at it this way, the person who has the neighborhood is scum? They can not claim and then hold onto it while they cop people to try to find the other team and then neighborhood one of them, then get information for who else to neighborize from the other team. YAY now they can communicate and town has a harder time of winning this game.

If the neighborizer is town, they claim and will be using it night one and two, we can evaluate them and their choices. This is good for town.

Like this shouldn't be too hard for town to understand.

Also it was brought up last game that creative scum could bid on things for the express purpose of looking like it was a town bid, so the bid amount means absolutely nothing.

Pyrotammy, I'd like to write you off as town, because I feel like your intro to this game has been more in keeping with your town self, but the more I think of it, the more your reasons for voting me REALLY bug me. So I'd like answers.

Firstly, "YOU ASKED MAGUA QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GAME. HOW DID YOU NOT REALIZE THAT NEIGHBOURIZER WAS AN AWESOME ROLE" (my questions were more technical ones about how abilities resolve; also, my point with your post was more "Why would you claim to have bid $100?" than "Why ask the neighbourizer to claim?") is a terrible point, but anyway.

I actually am fine with the people voting me because my claim is fishy (although granted, I'm not exactly sure what the motivation is for claiming to have bid $80 instead of $100, I'm well aware that the way I claimed looked ).

In post 51, Pyrotechnics wrote:

In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.

Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.

So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.

VOTE: Lost Butterfly

One: You're responding to me when you should be asking baldeagle about vote freezer.

Two: I bid $100 on neighborizer as that's all I have.

Three: Garuda hasn't posted yet.

Four: Empire is part of Garuda. I'm the one who wants the neighborizer to claim. It should be pretty self-explanatory. The scum teams can win together. They have the cop role. Once they find each other, they can communicate through a neighborhood. (This is actually pretty certain. Last game it cost me over $500 to win the neighborizer from scum who had won cop and found the other team.) So, the neighborizer needs to claim so that we can evaluate them and keep track of the neighborhood if need be. Last game we were lucky and town won neighborizer both times and we used it really effectively, and we made public who won the neighborizer.

Fixed broken quote tag.

Firstly, this was just when people were starting to throw suspicion on me. Secondly, even if you take into account that you didn't realize I'd got Garuda and you mixed up, I just realized that NONE of this is even alignment relevant. The closest thing to an actual "case" is One...and I asking baldeagle about vote freezer in that post, so...huh?

voided wrote:P-EDIT: LB's fine, leave them be.

do you think LB is town? or you just don't think they're scum?

voided wrote:Not really. Nice try generalizing, though.

i wasn't generalising. i couldn't find anything i liked about your initial wall, outside of maybe the baldeagle vote, but you changed your mind on that shortly after and now you're voting prohawk for reasons you haven't explained. it seems to have something to do with #103, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

In post 118, 1baldeagle1 wrote:

In post 116, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:is that a case or just a quote of every post they've made?

The latter is called ISO.

Yes, I went through his posts and it was mostly just claiming/questions/answering questions and trying to derail his own wagon.

Okay, so why have you just posted Lost Butterfly's iso?

Lost Butterfly why did you choose 80 over 100?