Mewbie 1442 the second -- Game over

[GuyInFreezer]

GiF, what's that Buckwild vote about?

My usual shenanigans.

[Malakittens]

*ding dong*

The door slowly creeks open..

A deep voice appears, "You rang?"



"We don't have any candy here. We had a lot of kids come and we had shortages because the Pugsley and Wednesday kept eating them!" Says Morticia

*nachomamma8 feels a tap on his shoulder*

"Whoa, whoa, whoa! GiF stop touching me!" Yells Nachomamma8.
"That's not me!" Says GiF.

"Awww the hand took a liking to this little trick or treater!" Says Gomez

"Would you like to play with me?" Wednesday points to Jmo16mla and iamdrrobot.

Jmo16mla gulping, "no, I'm good."
"Sure why not! I think I'm overheating" says iamdrrobot

Pugsley grab Jmo16mla and Wednesday tells Iamdrrobot to follow her to Uncle Fester's lab.

"Haveeee fun kids!" Says Morticia and Gomez at the same time.

"You.. The one with the hat!" As she points at Goodmorning "come with me! I'll treat you how to make real potions"

"We should go" says Crisp

"We should, but Jmo16mla, Goodmorning and Iamdrrobot are missing" says Rachmarie

"I'll go get them! Ill rope them and drag them back!" Says Buckwild

"Come in, come in guys while you wait for your friends" says Morticia

The rest enters inside the house...

Vote Count 1.04

With 9 alive it's 5 votes to lynch.

Voting for:

*CrisP - Goodmorning [1]
*guyinfreezer - Buckwild [1]
*goodmorning - jmo16mla [1]
*IamDrRobot - Nachomamma8 [1]
*jmo16mla -
*DiamondCrash -
*Buckwild - GuyInFreezer [1]
*RachMarie -
*Nachomamma8 -

Not voting: IamDrRobot, DiamondCrash, RachMarie, CrisP [4]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-12 20:39:00)

[IamDrRobot]

@Mala - V/LA until the 4th

[goodmorning]

P-EDIT
oooohhhhh, I think I have a townread now

Are you implying that BW is town in your opinion since you believe GIF to be scum? If so why are you voting me and not him, do you think we are mafia buddies? If not who is your town read and how come you said so right after GIF's post about BW?

1. When did I say GIF was Scum?
2. I'm voting you because I didn't like whatever it was I didn't like. I think it was a vote and an unvote, but I don't really remember.
3. I don't pairhunt sans flips.
4. I said so right after GIF's post because I liked his thought process. Similar thoughts usually mean similar alignments.
Therefore GIF is my townread, though "read" might be a bit too strong.

I am also leaning Town on DC, though not the biggest fan of his mild buddying attempts on me.

I also like your point on IaDR, you may be on to something with that.

Seriously though, GIF is definite scum. This guy is just acting like his scum moves are whatever when its just a cover up. Please vote GIF.

I think maybe you should go meta him when you can, because this is just GIF.

Honestly his behaviour here isn't even in the top 50 scummiest things he's done in just the games I've been in with him (and quite a few of those from his Town games).

[Nachomamma8]

GiF, what's that Buckwild vote about?

My usual shenanigans.

Your usual shenanigans suck.

I also like your point on IaDR, you may be on to something with that.

He is.

[RachMarie]

What do you think that point is Nacho?

[Nachomamma8]

That he's playing the same as he was last game.

[GuyInFreezer]

And buck isn't.

[Nachomamma8]

he isn't but it doesn't mean he's scum

[GuyInFreezer]

The tone is too different to skip it off.

[Nachomamma8]

Seriously though, GIF is definite scum. This guy is just acting like his scum moves are whatever when its just a cover up. Please vote GIF.

this doesn't sound like scum to me

[GuyInFreezer]

that doesn't sound like town either.

I'll toy with him a bit and I'll be able to figure stuff out.

[Nachomamma8]

OK.

[CrisP]

Bandwagoning is done a lot in early stages to build pressure and garner up reactions while to see if any other people jump on it opportunistically. So wagonning early is null.

BW I also agree with nacho and GIF that his vote is in lane with the usual behavior, this is a quote from his last game with us where he says the same thing basically.

[CrisP]

I also don't like you aggroing him after he cast suspicion on you, seems more of a mafia than a town play.

[CrisP]

GM said the same thing about GIF and gave a somewhat convincing reply to my questions, especially because she volunteered a read on someone I also think is possibly town, the only part I don't like is:

2. I'm voting you because I didn't like whatever it was I didn't like. I think it was a vote and an unvote, but I don't really remember.

seems kind of sloppy à là I mafia and making up stuff, but over all it looks more like "I'm town and I can't be assed to check at the moment" so overall she is my (very mild) first town read. Sorry for the multi posts

[Buckwild]

Honestly his behaviour here isn't even in the top 50 scummiest things he's done in just the games I've been in with him (and quite a few of those from his Town games).

Don't have time for meta reading. So basically he has free reign to be scum because that's what he does? Am I over-reacting because no else seems to think GIF is scum?

[GuyInFreezer]

prod dodge

Why do I feel like ppl are talking about me as if I'm some "always-scummy" player? :<
On exactly which part do you think you're over-reacting?

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also, don't expect me to be here til next monday.
The timeframe is too short to call V/LA so

[goodmorning]

Honestly his behaviour here isn't even in the top 50 scummiest things he's done in just the games I've been in with him (and quite a few of those from his Town games).

Don't have time for meta reading. So basically he has free reign to be scum because that's what he does? Am I over-reacting because no else seems to think GIF is scum?

Different things tell different ways for different players, is what I'm saying.

[CrisP]

Is there an IC in this game? Because if there is and this town vegetation continues I would like to flag him/her for doing a terrible job, not that this excuses most of the other townies here in any way.

In the vain hope that someone wants to talk but doesn't know what to say, here are some meaningful points that have emerged up to now:

- was my vote on DC a mistake or was it a slip up? -> started out when I voted DC in post 36 because he claimed VT and I implicitly claimed I was the VT and there was only 1 VT in the setup -> DC pointed out that in last game's setup up to 6 VT's were possible so my accusation was unfounded in post 37 -> I recognized my mistake in post 44 and unvoted -> JM asked me to explain my play in post 45 which I did in post 46 -> GM voted for me in post 47 and asked town to discuss the vote -> JM said in various posts that my reasoning appeared townish but at the same time said he was keeping an eye on me because switching vote quickly when you realize you made a mistake is often a noob mafia mistake -> I disputed that point in post 68 -> DC asked for clarification / disputed my post in post 69 -> I answered in post 70 -> currently still being voted by GM.

- Is IamDrRobot playing like last game and is she therefore mafia? -> started by me pointing it out -> RM clarified / defended / deflected (depending on how you interpret her post) in post 87
-> was followed up by Nacho in post 97 -> IamDrRobot went afk till 4.11 in post 99 -> currently still being voted by Nachomamma8

- Is GIF scummy? -> started with a cross vote with Nachomamma8 and GIF in the first posts of the game -> GIF was the third vote on GM in post 42 -> BW pointed that out, thinks it is a scum play and asked town to lynch GIF -> Nacho, after asking GIF for some clarification, GM and myself pointed out that it doesn't look so scummy if you consider how GIF usually plays and what he thinks of early bandwagoning -> BW is not convinced, is he right, is he confused town or is he scum trying to make a play stick? -> currently still being voted by BW

- Is GM scummy? -> started when GM voted BW in post 28 after BW voted for someone not in game by mistake -> Nacho, JM and GIF quickly voted GM for this, Nacho said it was a bad reason to vote someone (p.30), JM did not explain his reasoning but later asked BW why he didn't question his vote when he accused GIF (see is GIF scummy?) and GIF said he was sheeping JM (JM asked town to vote GM in post 41-> I asked GM to clarifly some points in posts 68, 70 and 82 -> she answered in post 71 and 103 -> GIF did the same and GM replied in post 77 -> currently still being voted by JM.

Now people please just post something.

[goodmorning]

Is there an IC in this game? Because if there is and this town vegetation continues I would like to flag him/her for doing a terrible job, not that this excuses most of the other townies here in any way.

Kind of both and neither of us?
I don't know, but activity isn't really the IC's job anyway.

The rest of the post is somewhat handy but at the same time a lot of IIoA.

Now, there is something that's troubling me: lack of content from Nacho.

[DiamondCrash]

Hi there.

shit, i dont think we should even vote. sounds like a good plan?

If you are going to vote, at least have a reason? If you think sheeping is a good reason, maybe we should just all sheep one person and go from there. It is anti-town to sheep and I don't buy the reaction BS.

You yourself voted people in order to garner reactions in 1442 the first. Hypocritical, much?

Don't have time for meta reading. So basically he has free reign to be scum because that's what he does? Am I over-reacting because no else seems to think GIF is scum?

Well, considering from what I've seen, your only reason seems to be "he's sheeping":

Neither.
Just wagonin' for wagon's sake.

Scum will be scum. At least you are admitting to it.

Why would town join a wagon for the sake of a wagon? It could easily lead to a mislynch. Scum oftens jumps on an easy wagon in hopes that it will push through.

...which has been rightly justified as getting a reaction from people. In addition, you have also voted for people as a method for getting a reaction in the previous game; this can only lead me to believe that you are unjustly pushing to throw suspicion at GIF, I can't see that as anything other than highly scummy. I'm not buying it for one second.

Vote: BuckWild

[goodmorning]

And DC joins the ranks of my townlist.

[Nachomamma8]

Is there an IC in this game? Because if there is and this town vegetation continues I would like to flag him/her for doing a terrible job, not that this excuses most of the other townies here in any way.

my laptop got stolen, access will be limited
i don't think the IC is doing a terrible job tho