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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:47 pm

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Let's not let Nazgul get forgotten in all this misdirected bandwagondry, now.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:03 pm

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Well, I never really saw what was so suspicious about Mas in the first place, so I'm fine to move on.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:05 pm

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There was no real argument, Al, but the town just follows BabyJesus like a sheep, apparently.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:50 pm

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Maz Medias wrote:There was no real argument, Al, but the town just follows BabyJesus like a sheep, apparently.
hardly
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:16 pm

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bigAl wrote:
Nazgul wrote:
bigAl wrote:Nazgul is using some pretty weak arguments IMHO.
Such as?
Such as:
Nazgul wrote:Because of the name claim - before that I did not buy your story.
How do you
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buy an ability that is so obvious?
Also voting Mas for no (stated) reason.
1. I never said I did noy buy his ability. I was still sceptical on his alignment though. As others noticed, a double voter could also be a Harkonnen.
2. The Maz vote is bandwagoning, nothing more, nothing less. You know, the kind of vote that is required to get the game moving or everyone stalls at 2 votes. And I did give my reason:"put the pressure on".

I am not happy with a Thufir Hawat claim, as he did turn around in the course of the book, and worked for the Harkonnens. He could still be a recruitable traitor - although he did not really commit treason in his opinion in the book.

For now,
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:54 pm

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Master of assasins, well I think its believable of course, unless we get a counter, which we could since we haven't everyone post yet for a chance to counterclaim. But Hawat is definately one to watch being a safe claim I would think.

Talitha, you were gonna vote N_lich up there...
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:30 pm

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Any particular reason you think the scum might have safe claims, Tamuz?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:06 am

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unvote: Maz Medias
for now, I too am a little skeptical of Thufir Hawat's alignment, but for now since that was merely a bandwagon vote on my part...
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:07 am

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Ameliaslay wrote:
unvote: Maz Medias
for now, I too am a little skeptical of Thufir Hawat's alignment, but for now since that was merely a bandwagon vote on my part...
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:03 am

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He did work for the Harks for a while when he thought the Atreides were dead, right? Though he was secretly trying to bring him down from the inside.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:42 am

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bigAl wrote:He did work for the Harks for a while when he thought the Atreides were dead, right? Though he was secretly trying to bring him down from the inside.
Bring him down from the inside... right.

Talitha, there are, of course, no reasons that I have for scum having safe claims, I'm just very ready to consider it.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:58 am

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bigAl wrote:He did work for the Harks for a while when he thought the Atreides were dead, right? Though he was secretly trying to bring him down from the inside.
He/I was also under the influence of Vladimir's residual poison. He also also chose to die rather than harm Paul-Muad'dib.

He's pretty indisputably a pro-Atreides character. Saying he's not would be like saying Gurney Halleck might be scum because he worked for the smugglers.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:46 pm

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I've just finished Dune and am trying to get ahold of Dune Messiah-- but I was under the impression that since Thufir Hawat was dependent on the Harkonnen poison and was acting as Master of Assasins for the Harkonnens he had semi- transferred his loyalty, although again I haven't read the later installments of the series.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:01 pm

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Maz Medias wrote:
bigAl wrote:He did work for the Harks for a while when he thought the Atreides were dead, right? Though he was secretly trying to bring him down from the inside.
He/I was also under the influence of Vladimir's residual poison. He also also chose to die rather than harm Paul-Muad'dib.

He's pretty indisputably a pro-Atreides character. Saying he's not would be like saying Gurney Halleck might be scum because he worked for the smugglers.
You DO realize, the last time Dune was ran at this site, Gurney Halleck was scum, right?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:52 pm

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Maz Medias wrote:He/I was also under the influence of Vladimir's residual poison. He also also chose to die rather than harm Paul-Muad'dib.
I'm pretty sure that he didn't know about the poison in the books (unlike the crappy Patrick Stewart movie), but that's rather unimportant.

From the opening post I get the impression that the Atreides/Harkonnens are straightforward town/scum, but can never be truly sure. I'll leave it at that for now, let's move on to lynching scum...
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:29 am

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BabyJesus wrote:
Maz Medias wrote:
bigAl wrote:He did work for the Harks for a while when he thought the Atreides were dead, right? Though he was secretly trying to bring him down from the inside.
He/I was also under the influence of Vladimir's residual poison. He also also chose to die rather than harm Paul-Muad'dib.

He's pretty indisputably a pro-Atreides character. Saying he's not would be like saying Gurney Halleck might be scum because he worked for the smugglers.
You DO realize, the last time Dune was ran at this site, Gurney Halleck was scum, right?
Irrelevant. It's still a specious argument to question his loyalty in terms of this game because he did, at one point in the book, work for someone other than the Atreides.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:57 am

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TCT perhaps? and in that case I don't think he is a character we want around both for the numeric change and the ability that I can see him having going to the mafia...
The more I hear the more uneasy I'm getting, but I still can't pinpoint it to a vote.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:07 am

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Tamuz wrote:TCT perhaps? and in that case I don't think he is a character we want around both for the numeric change and the ability that I can see him having going to the mafia...
The more I hear the more uneasy I'm getting, but I still can't pinpoint it to a vote.
What's "TCT"?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:08 pm

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TurnCoat Traitor?
That's just a guess. . .
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 8:41 am

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Tamuz, are you thinking he's like a vampire of sorts?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 11:37 am

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babyjesus wrote:interesting. Do you serve Atreides or Harkonnen?
Even if he did serve the Harkonnen, it's obvious that he wouldn't own up to it. I am inclined to give Maz Medias the benefit of the doubt for now, since Thufir was a pro-Atreides character, by my reading of the series.

Going back and rereading the thread, I want to:
unvote, vote: Uraj45


His first post seems a little too enthusiastic, like scum trying to play as eager townie. He also seems a little too hands-off and unforthright, commenting rather than arguing. It just doesn't strike me as normal play.

but
FOS: Ameliaslay
because putting the next-to-last vote on somebody this early--and for almost no reason--is far, far too eager.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 2:59 pm

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Turn Coat Townie, surprised one hasn't been heard of here.
Even unreluctant he could be turned mafia, I can see it flavourwise, or be dominated by mafia to act under them even without being part of them or he would die. Even if we do trust the name claim I'm saying it would be a very bad idea to trust his allegiance based on the flavourclaim.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 3:02 pm

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And the Turncoat becomes mafia, receives abilities...???
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 3:34 pm

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It depends, we get into mod guessing here, but I've seen it retaining abilities but the goal changes from wins with town to wins with mafia.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2006 6:47 pm

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Absolutely have heard the the role before, but never heard it by that name. They're more commonly referred to as traitors.
Traitors are pretty rare in mini games because of the volatility they bring to a small atmosphere. It is, however, a very real possibility based on the role.
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