Mini 79 - SoT: Wizard's First Rule - GAME OVER

[Kerplunk]

The Mod apologizes for the long waiting. He is also very glad that some of you are reading the book. You won't be disappointed.

And with five votes by Flying Dutchman, Tam, rebel lord, modargo and melchizedek Untrod Tripod is lynched. And he was indeed a Mord-Sith. And he was indeed looking for Richard. And he was... EVIL.

Congratulations, town.

Untrod Tripod was Mord-Sith Constance. She is part of the pack of EVIL and every night she could send me a target and she would know if that player was Richard or not.

It is now night. Send night choices ASAP!

[Kerplunk]

For the third time the group gathers in one of the many halls of the Confessor's Palace. Although there are shocked faces, it really surprises no-one when they notice that rebel lord hasn't joined them.

rebel lord, Adie, has been killed. Every night rebel lord could protect one of the players. That player could not be killed that night.

It is now Day 3, with 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Discuss.

[gin]

Aiee

damn early claims :/

Time to reread the thread again I guesss...

[willows_weep]

blah...that was early and I don't think there are any other roles in the first book that are doc like except for Zed maybe.

fos: foolster

Had you asked rebel for a role claim??
And also where in the book does it mention a leader among the mord sith?
The only ones who were named are Deena and Constance. The unnamed ones were the two who were going to try and kill Richard when he didn't go through with the chanting, and the ones seen when Kahlan was going to look for Rahl. But either way I don't think there was an actual heirarchy.
Deena was picked because she was more skilled and took the most pleasure in her life (not job ).

[Tam]

Ouch, lost our doctor to quick-draw roleclaims...for shame...
Since willows-weep just read the book, I think I'll go back and find where that instance was (who said there was a leader) and vote in a bit...

(In other words, after I get to work and have time to muck about on the internet)

[Flying Dutchman]

Ouch, lost our doctor to quick-draw roleclaims...for shame...
Since willows-weep just read the book, I think I'll go back and find where that instance was (who said there was a leader) and vote in a bit...

(In other words, after I get to work and have time to muck about on the internet)

I looked back, Untrod Tripod started the whole thing, but he was lynched yesterday for that......... Any other leads?

[Tam]

Doh..night was too long (and probably still in too many games). Hmmm nope, no new leads, I just got that one from willows-weep

[modargo]

I've read through most of the book already, and I see no charecter that has to use ryming. I thinkTripod was just trying to be funny. (Ephisis on trying )

Though I didn't get to vote (Boy, wouldn't that be pointless?) I feel confident with this lynch. I read the book, and I'm sure it wasn't going to be good if tripod found Richard (Come on! in the book, she horibly tortures the guy!)

Maybe tripod is one of the nameless Mor'sith in the book. (Maybe the leader of the mor'sith's still around = I forget her name) Of course, I'm asuming the GF is Rahl, and perhaps the other is Denim.

Those were Foolster's two posts on the previous page. One defended UT. the other came

after

the lynch. It looks to me like scum waiting to see if the bandwagon would go all the way or not, and then posting that he's "confident with this lynch" after it's already been decided. He gets to look like he's in favor of the lynch without having to actually contribute to it.

I'm always suspicious of that sort of twilight post. Scum tend to make it so they can say they were right the next day. For this reason I will also

FoS: Tam

, for making a similar post. However, I find Foolster much more suspicious, so

vote: Foolster

.

[Tam]

Modargo, there's a flaw in your reasoning...I specifically said that I felt confident only because all of the readers said his roleclaim was screwy...that does not set me up later to say 'ha, i knew he was scum!' at all. Basically we'd been waiting for a bit for night to fall, and I wanted to retag the thread as active in case Kerplunk had missed the votes.

Well, by my count, that's a lynch then. I feel fairly confident about this one since all you SoT readers are saying that his role cliam sucks.
*waves her hands excitedly at Kerplunk*
Over here!

[Flying Dutchman]

Vote: Foolster

[Kerplunk]

Vote Count

Foolster41

: 2 (modargo, Flying Dutchman)

4 to lynch.

I got a PM from Foolster41 that he won't be able to post much the next couple of days. I PMed him to ask if I should replace him. I'm awaiting his answer.

[willows_weep]

foolster said:

Either gnome is a really bad townie, or scum that's never read the book. Perhaps there is a nameless role (I've given up trying to second guess mods, it's impossible.) But Gnome does look very scummy so my vote stays. (What's the count so far?)

Does this look odd to anyone?? Something about it bothers me because of gnomes role. Being a traitor he knew who the mafia were...but mafia didn't know him right? And by this point Foolster had not finished the book( not that you have to in order to know some stuff about the book. I only mention it because it was mentioned before he had read it himself. )...I don't know...something about it is a bother.


Oh and :

I guess you might as well tell us who are right now Rebel Lord.

At the point foolster said that Rebel only had 2votes when 5 was needed to lynch.
Also Rebel had just posted (before foolsters request):

I must admit that perhaps I was wrong in voting for Gnome the way I did. Part of my purpose was to get a response of some sort. This was successful, and led to lynching someone who was evil. I am not evil and would have thought Gnome's accusation of me would have proved that. I don't believe he would have been capable of such logic had I been mafia or evil or whatever, which I'm not. If necesary I'll reveal my role but hope I don't have to do that.

BTW I am just voicing things that I find odd/unclear and I would like some sort of explanation or clarification on. I don't like the thought of rash/foggy decisons...

[willows_weep]

foolster said:

Either gnome is a really bad townie, or scum that's never read the book. Perhaps there is a nameless role (I've given up trying to second guess mods, it's impossible.) But Gnome does look very scummy so my vote stays. (What's the count so far?)

Does this look odd to anyone?? Something about it bothers me because of gnomes role. Being a traitor he knew who the mafia were...but mafia didn't know him right? And by this point Foolster had not finished the book( not that you have to in order to know some stuff about the book. I only mention it because it was mentioned before he had read it himself. )...I don't know...something about it is a bother.


Oh and :

I guess you might as well tell us who are right now Rebel Lord.

At the point foolster said that Rebel only had 2votes when 5 was needed to lynch.
Also Rebel had just posted (before foolsters request):

I must admit that perhaps I was wrong in voting for Gnome the way I did. Part of my purpose was to get a response of some sort. This was successful, and led to lynching someone who was evil. I am not evil and would have thought Gnome's accusation of me would have proved that. I don't believe he would have been capable of such logic had I been mafia or evil or whatever, which I'm not. If necesary I'll reveal my role but hope I don't have to do that.

BTW I am just voicing things that I find odd/unclear and I would like some sort of explanation or clarification on. I don't like the thought of rash/foggy decisons...

[willows_weep]

foolster said:

Either gnome is a really bad townie, or scum that's never read the book. Perhaps there is a nameless role (I've given up trying to second guess mods, it's impossible.) But Gnome does look very scummy so my vote stays. (What's the count so far?)

Does this look odd to anyone?? Something about it bothers me because of gnomes role. Being a traitor he knew who the mafia were...but mafia didn't know him right? And by this point Foolster had not finished the book( not that you have to in order to know some stuff about the book. I only mention it because it was mentioned before he had read it himself. )...I don't know...something about it is a bother.


Oh and :

I guess you might as well tell us who are right now Rebel Lord.

At the point foolster said that Rebel only had 2votes when 5 was needed to lynch.
Also Rebel had just posted (before foolsters request):

I must admit that perhaps I was wrong in voting for Gnome the way I did. Part of my purpose was to get a response of some sort. This was successful, and led to lynching someone who was evil. I am not evil and would have thought Gnome's accusation of me would have proved that. I don't believe he would have been capable of such logic had I been mafia or evil or whatever, which I'm not. If necesary I'll reveal my role but hope I don't have to do that.

BTW I am just voicing things that I find odd/unclear and I would like some sort of explanation or clarification on. I don't like the thought of rash/foggy decisons...

[willows_weep]

omg...I am so sorry AOL did that!!! I sent it through once!! then it was all like sorry we couldnt load that so go back and do stuff...then I went back and I checked to see if it posted and nothing was there. Then I was going to try and post it and then AOL was like...we did evil things we have to close now and make you forget what you were just doing.

Im so sorry players and mod. That was unintentional.

Mod? If foolster has time to pm you again do you think he'll have time to answer my erm...last post?
so sorry about that...

[melchizedek]

I can sort of see the logic behind this. I want to hear from Foolster before I do anything that could get him lynched. Foolster, if you have a good defense, or a reason for those posts, please post it before you get lynched.

[Foolster41]

Either gnome is a really bad townie, or scum that's never read the book. Perhaps there is a nameless role (I've given up trying to second guess mods, it's impossible.) But Gnome does look very scummy so my vote stays. (What's the count so far?)

---
Willows, this is called A EDUCATED GUESS. No, I hadn't read the book at that time. (I have now). But generaly you don't have many nameless rolls in a themed game. Also, in case you didn't look it did turn out to be a bad mafia claim, just as we (the voters) all suspected. Though I noticced YOU didn't vote for him.
--
About Untrod: I was planning on voting myself, but because of a lot things I coulnd't get to the internet in time. So, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in instead

You want my role claim? I'm rachel the slave-girl. A townie.

[modargo]

You'll have to pardon me if I consider that complete and utter bull****. With your roleclaim and the contrast between it and the other characters who have been revealed so far, I don't see how you can be anything but scum.

confirm vote: Foolster41

[willows_weep]

No I didnt want your role claim (if you were talking to me)

I had a really great! long post before this but when I sent it it completely erased.

Thanks for answering Foolster. Getting answers helps when Re reading the thread etc.

Darn got to go...I spent like an hour on that post!!!!

BTW Rachel is the girl who got the last book of orden out of the castle with the help of giller. She is now staying with Chase a warden of the boundaries.

[willows_weep]

Ok Im back from the mandatory dinner meeting that in my opinion wasn't important.

Now I remember Tam asking for someone to tell about Denim and Rahl?
Well both I think would be mafia in this game. Denim is Rahls number one hench man and also he sexually abuses young boys. He has blonde hair on the left and right side of his head with a black streak in the middle.
Rahl is a wizard who is in touch with the magic of the living and unliving worlds. He is the uber evil. He is also heavily skilled and has the "gift" that Richard also has. Rahl chooses to do evil with it. He also sexually abuses people. He is wants all three boxes of orden and must pick the right box with the help of the book of counted shadows which only Richard has the information from. Just in case anyone wants to read the book soon or something I will not give away the surprise in the end of the book for either character.



Well no I did not vote for Gnome. Gnome turned out to be a traitor. Thats just a role providing safety for mafia without the mafia knowing ( just stating that, not saying that anyone didn't know what the role is for). I don't understand your point if you had one when you said
" Though I noticed YOU didn't vote for him".
Now at first sight that looks like an accusation but I am not asking if it is or not. I just want to know the reason for the whole of it.
Because actually...traitors are free game to everyone no? Everyone thinks that the traitor is town. (I dont know if there are traitors who are mafia, but how would that work?) So its not the usual case of checking to see who voted for or didn't vote for a traitor. Am I right or no?

I will re read the thread later on tonight unless I find the need to do so earlier than when I am supposing. I think I have some why/what questions for someone. But I must digest your reactions, and the reactions of the other players as well. Plus uhm I have more games to read!!!

oh If anyone wants a quick character fact thingo/or if you want to talk about an event I will gladly give it.Oh and there is a chat button too now, no pm that would be uncool, or maybe in the "book" thread if its too much to do here. Only the first book though. I have to get ebay or amazon to get the others. I've found up to the 8th on amazon and 7 on ebay.

[Tam]

Thanks for the info, Willows_weep!
Also, great avatar!
I think I need to review the thread before trying to come up with anything solid to post.

[Kerplunk]

The Same Votecount As A Couple Of Posts Back

Foolster41

: 2 (modargo, Flying Dutchman)

4 to lynch.

[Flying Dutchman]

Rachel

Former playmate of princess Violet, and adopted daughter of Dell Brandstone. She escaped the castle at Tamarang with a Box or Orden with Gillers help.

I haven't read the books, can someone say if this looks like pro- or anti-town?

Apart from that I don't like people claiming before they're threatened........

It doesn't look very convincing to me.

[willows_weep]

I posted an explanation of Rachel earlier.
Dell brandstone is chase the boundary warden he is good.
Wizard giller is...grey area at first but he gave her the box of orden to protect it from Rahl. He killed himself to help destroy others. So in the end he was good.
Violet most probably died. Richard hand a hand in that. Violet was evil to Rachel. Rachel was like...her toy. Violet is the evil queens daughter. Both happy to have people get their heads cut off etc.
Rachel is a small child who lost her parents and was sent to an orphanage along with her brother. After her brother died, the queen picked Rachel out of all the other orphaned kids to be this "playmate" for violet.

In my opinion if this character were in this game it would be pro-town.
Her first major action in the book was done out of love for killer and her dislike of people torturing others. She likes hugs and for her hair to be properly trimmed.
Which btw now she has not to worry about. Chase likes his kids to wear there hair long.
( the short hair is a symbol of lowly status where Rachel comes from. Where chase comes from you can do what you like with your hair etc.)

[willows_weep]

Oh I am sorry.
That was
* had a hand in that
* love for Giller
*their hair long
Oh and the evil queen died, and before she died she had said that violet may not live because of what Richard did ( this really powerful kick while he was hanging by his wrists, I think it totally crushed her jaw, teeth etc and her tongue was detached.