Mini 1567 - Such Unusual Pretermen... ...Evil Too!

[geists]

What's the scum motivation for faking a guilty on day 1?

[Who]

I didn't get a character, or a QT. So... what does that mean. How much of the mechanics are hidden?

VOTE: Who

because his Night zero claim is fake.

Just come out and say you like to kill people at night. It's ok, we won't judge you. We'll LYNCH you, but we won't judge you.

[Empking]

Vote Count Five: All still alive?

Josh_B (4) - Who, Cho, Nobody Special, geists
Who (2)-FormerFish, Josh_B
Nobody Special (1) - Juls
Cho (1) - Zephyrus
Kagami (1) - vezokpiraka

Not Voting: Kagami, MTD, PhDScar, Belisarius

With Thirteen alive, it is Seven to lynch

(expired on 2014-05-10 13:21:24)

[MTD]

VOTE: Josh_B
What geists said. Faking a guilty here would be just plain stupid from scum.

[Josh_B]

What's the scum motivation for faking a guilty on day 1?

I don't know, what's the motivation for saying you have a N0 that completely changed on N0?

[MTD]

I don't know, what's the motivation for saying you have a N0 that completely changed on N0?

You tell us, what

is

a scum motivation for that?

[Josh_B]

I don't know, what's the motivation for saying you have a N0 that completely changed on N0?

You tell us, what

is

a scum motivation for that?

two for one kill. Who sacrifices himself for a mislynch and a NK. I called out Kagami because her statement didn't make sense, so he faked N0 abilities to get everyone to lynch me. Plus he's claiming a flavor change, after I said the flavor was probably hidden. Can someone link me to the first game of this series so we can even evaluate that?

[MTD]

two for one kill. Who sacrifices himself for a mislynch and a NK. I called out Kagami because her statement didn't make sense, so he faked N0 abilities to get everyone to lynch me. Plus he's claiming a flavor change, after I said the flavor was probably hidden. Can someone link me to the first game of this series so we can even evaluate that?

So now you are also claiming that Kagami is his partner?
Also, just no. Scum wouldn't fake a guilty on

day 1

just to get one free kill. It just makes no sense (scum is a minority, remember?).
I don't get what you are trying to say with the flavour change.

[Who]

Josh, you're at L-2. Claim time.

[Juls]

unvote, vote: josh

make that L-1

[Formerfish]

Intent to hammer the guilty. I like who, he seems on the level. Absolutely no scum would out themselves day 1 to lead a mislynch.

[vezokpiraka]

No hammer. Everyone unvote.
Who is a lyncher god dammit. Don't fail this so hard.

unvote
vote Who

[Juls]

unvote

We have time for a discussion.
What is a lyncher?

[Nobody Special]

UNVOTE:

A lyncher is a player whose wincon is to get another, specific player lynched.

vezok, do you

know

this, or are you guessing?

[vezokpiraka]

UNVOTE:

A lyncher is a player whose wincon is to get another, specific player lynched.

vezok, do you

know

this, or are you guessing?

Guessing. An educated guess though.
And we can always sort them out later. Let's see.

Mod

: If a lyncher would lynch his target does that end the game?

[Juls]

Is this something empking has used before or a lot? I guess I am asking about the "educated" part of your reply. Is it role related or mod related?

[Empking]

UNVOTE:

A lyncher is a player whose wincon is to get another, specific player lynched.

vezok, do you

know

this, or are you guessing?

Guessing. An educated guess though.
And we can always sort them out later. Let's see.

Mod

: If a lyncher would lynch his target does that end the game?

No

[vezokpiraka]

Is this something empking has used before or a lot? I guess I am asking about the "educated" part of your reply. Is it role related or mod related?

Empking used most roles at one point or another.
I don't remember if I saw lynchers in his games, but it's a possibility.
N0 cop with changing role is not though.

[Juls]

I can think of at least one character that would match that flavor at least.

@Who, can you flavor claim?

[Kagami]

Pretty sure josh actually is scum, regardless of whether or not Who is a lyncher.

I'm assuming lyncher counts as "scum," in which case we'd have to get rid of him anyway, and letting him win is a fine way to do it (he would almost certainly leave the game once he's won).

Changing roles was heavily featured in the first game. There were players being recruited to a bulletproof monkery, players being vanillaized, and players passing around an "artefact" that gave them immunity to vanillaizing.

[Juls]

Yeah, I don't see the downside in lynching josh. And if who is who I think, I don't think he is a lyncher.

vote: josh

L-2 please claim.

[Josh_B]

I'm a vanilla townie. I didn't get the character I picked in my role PM, but I picked Edmund Bertram from Mansfield Park. because an online JA quiz said I was most like the character. I have no idea who it is, and empking didn't either because I had to explain my pick to him in PM before. I think my character isn't in my role PM because of hidden mechanics as advertised.

I could actually imagine a scum, sacrificing themselves for a power role they didn't want to lose, but a lyncher makes more sense. If who is a lyncher, he's going to be tunneling me all game for no reason.

Kagami, can you explain what you meant earlier, and link to the first game?

[vezokpiraka]

Pretty sure josh actually is scum, regardless of whether or not Who is a lyncher.

I'm assuming lyncher counts as "scum," in which case we'd have to get rid of him anyway, and letting him win is a fine way to do it (he would almost certainly leave the game once he's won).

Changing roles was heavily featured in the first game. There were players being recruited to a bulletproof monkery, players being vanillaized, and players passing around an "artefact" that gave them immunity to vanillaizing.

Scum claiming at it's finest.
You want to lynch a player who is prob town in order to remove lyncher? Why not lynch the lyncher?

[Juls]

That doesn't make sense. You voted kagami for saying her role didn't match her pick and now you are saying your role doesn't match your pick.

@vezo you are just speculating that who is a lyncher. If we lynch his guilty and he wins who cares? Why would you want to lynch a claimed power role instead of a VT?

[Belisarius]

I could actually imagine a scum, sacrificing themselves for a power role they didn't want to lose

I can't.

I also can't imagine a N0 cop who expects their alignment to change outing a factual result D1, though.

Not interested in voting Josh.