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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:38 am
by Ki-Gi
I corrected myself later to say that I think in some cases (not all) that an unexplained second-vote-on-wagon is not a scum action. That's all.
I think farside's logic is terrible but I don't see how that makes her scum.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ Ki-Gi wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:I saw his post about Matt earlier, and asked if he thought the way Matt (who he was and is voting) would be likely to vote in such a bold way (no other text, or explanation) as the second vote on a wagon if he was scum. I asked this because I think that reduces the chances of it being a scum vote. Ki-Gi even said himself he didn't think it would be likely when addressing the question in a more general manner.
That has nothing to do with what you're arguing.
You realize your question did not refer to Matt right?
He also stated it wasn't a big scum tell, also not sure why your up in arms over my vote with explanation while questioning ki for his vote with the rational of being a second vote without a reason.
What is the difference between the first vote for no reason push?
And again, no explanation of why. You are seriously fishing here.
Your vote still has no explanation at all.
And yes, I was asking a question to Ki-Gi in reference to Matt originally. I think I would know better than you. Ki-gi seemed to understand the question fine when I asked it - you are the only one who did not.
That's not true, I thought you were referring to Flubber when you were referring to Matt, which made me answer yes as opposed to no.
Your answer shows to me what you would think of the situation without confbias, do you disagree?
Scum post ^
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Can you explain why for the class, please?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:40 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Ki-Gi wrote:I corrected myself later to say that I think in some cases (not all) that an unexplained second-vote-on-wagon is not a scum action. That's all.
I think farside's logic is terrible but I don't see how that makes her scum.
I understand that, KiGi and it's one of the reasons I'm not still trying to argue anything about that quote with you. Farside on the other hand, is trying to make it seem scummy even though the two people involved with the question are past it.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:43 am
by Anatole Kuragin
I guess you guys don't see it, but in my mind farside is just digging herself deeper and deeper into a subterranean logic-free abyss where no town motives seem to exist.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:44 am
by Ki-Gi
AK just make a wall post and not ten million small posts plz, that's a bad habit.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:45 am
by Anatole Kuragin
When you see how bad I butcher quotes you will regret saying that.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:47 am
by Anatole Kuragin
That above large quote had text under it, but the forum somehow bugged out and omitted it. I frequently have buggy interactions with the quoting and multiquoting that cost me posts or break quote tags in ways I didn't realize were possible.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:48 am
by Ki-Gi
I can see that earlier on this page anyway. And it's not even a quote thing. 103 and 104 do not need to be two posts. And if you butcher quoting than just use @s. Anything but this.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:50 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Ki-Gi wrote:I can see that earlier on this page anyway. And it's not even a quote thing. 103 and 104 do not need to be two posts. And if you butcher quoting than just use @s. Anything but this.
Those posts were several minutes apart. Playing this game with ADD makes it difficult to sum up every possible thought in a single neat post, even if I make a habit of waiting a few minutes before I submit each one. Something can always come up a few minutes later after a quick re-read or whatever.
But I see your point and will try to be better about this.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:53 am
by Ki-Gi
In 91 and 92 you take the same quote and make two responses to it in two different posts. That's not okay. I do not need Mr. Schizoid Man filling up every page of this game until your inevitable death. I'm glad you see my point. Maybe try being offline more and then relying more on catch-up posts? Whatever, I'm guilty of it to an extent myself.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:54 am
by Anatole Kuragin
This is what happens when I'm bored at work all day because there are no support tickets to deal with.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:54 am
by Ki-Gi
I see.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:59 am
by farside22
↑ MattP wrote:VOTE: flubbernugget
Tell me how you know with this vote he was not serious Anatole?
Anatole Kuragin wrote:This is what happens when I'm bored at work all day because there are no support tickets to deal with.
I get in trouble at work, hence quick post and short time
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:02 am
by mykonian
↑ MattP wrote:I'm busy right now but I've been keeping an eye on the thread and I think you're wasting time and harming town with your vindictive tone towards farside, Anatole. Maybe this is a time for self reflection and a drop of humility, even if she is being aggressive towards you
You aren't the only one, anatole. Don't worry. I think this happens every game.
This is very quick though, I don't know if a debate like this around Farside ever exploded on page 3 or so.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:07 am
by farside22
The short and simple about why I find the post I stated as scum post is that Anatole claims that ki understood where he was coming from. Ki corrects him saying that was not the cases. Anatole then states it was a question was to show what he thought without confirbases. Ie the question was not as black and white as it was intended.
I still don't get the point of asking about the person placing a second vote, when ki's point on mAtt had nothing!!! To do with where his vote was.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:08 am
by farside22
↑ mykonian wrote: ↑ MattP wrote:I'm busy right now but I've been keeping an eye on the thread and I think you're wasting time and harming town with your vindictive tone towards farside, Anatole. Maybe this is a time for self reflection and a drop of humility, even if she is being aggressive towards you
You aren't the only one, anatole. Don't worry. I think this happens every game.
This is very quick though, I don't know if a debate like this around Farside ever exploded on page 3 or so.
How quickly people forget how long I can go.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:10 am
by xRECKONERx
Oh god 5 pages srs
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:13 am
by xRECKONERx
So uh I skimmed it all like super fast and zzzzzzz
Also I thought this was Top Gun Mafia when I signed up GODDAMMIT MONGOOOOOOOOOSE
Also I'm gonna do this
VOTE: Anatole
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:16 am
by Ki-Gi
Five pages is nothing, are you serious?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:17 am
by farside22
↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:I saw his post about Matt earlier, and asked if he thought the way Matt (who he was and is voting) would be likely to vote in such a bold way (no other text, or explanation) as the second vote on a wagon if he was scum. I asked this because I think that reduces the chances of it being a scum vote. Ki-Gi even said himself he didn't think it would be likely when addressing the question in a more general manner.
That has nothing to do with what you're arguing.
Last post since reck complained, until tonight that is.
Anatole: where you town reading Matt?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:23 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ MattP wrote:
Because it was something to do? I mean, it was the second post of the game, I assumed that intention would be pretty evident
This is how I knew it was a bullshit vote, Farside. Are you reading the entire game or just cherry picking posts?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:24 am
by MattP
↑ Ki-Gi wrote: ↑ MattP wrote:I just don't see how you could extrapolate so much more meaning from my vote on csarea than from farsides vote on flubber (besides the "taking advantage of a noob" card which wasn't even true considering I didn't even push csarea when he responded to my vote) and use that to be so confident I must be scum. It seems ridiculous
But I'm not confident you're scum, and said as much. We're three pages in. I don't understand the wagon on Flubber so I can't extrapolate anything from that. Your vote on Csarea seemed opportunistic. Not pushing, which helps, but opportunistic all the same.
All right. C'est la vie.
↑ mykonian wrote: ↑ MattP wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Well technically it is self-evident that anything someone does is a thing to do because it was an action performed.
Ok, but I think this is especially appropriate sass on my part given that you're asking me about the second post of a game
I'm decidedly losing you here. Both of you. No clue where you are going with this.
What do you want from posting this and why exactly?
↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ MattP wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ MattP wrote:I'm busy right now but I've been keeping an eye on the thread and I think you're wasting time and harming town with your vindictive tone towards farside, Anatole. Maybe this is a time for self reflection and a drop of humility, even if she is being aggressive towards you
Why shouldn't I question her voting without explanation?
When I read through your posts regardless of content they came off as vindictive. I care much less about what you are doing in your posts. Do you currently believe that farside is even scummy?
Pursuing a case without any reasoning at all, discouraging questioning players and their motives are the scummiest traits that have been displayed so far. I'm trying to let her explain why she's playing like this before I make up my mind.
So then just do what you do.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:24 am
by Anatole Kuragin
I'm townreading matt, yes.
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:25 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ xRECKONERx wrote:So uh I skimmed it all like super fast and zzzzzzz
Also I thought this was Top Gun Mafia when I signed up GODDAMMIT MONGOOOOOOOOOSE
Also I'm gonna do this
VOTE: Anatole
You better check yourself before you Reck yourself.