#93 High School Mafia - Day Five - GAME OVER

[Argoti]

Actually, I didn't count Vraak. That was my 4th posts, and so I counted PBug. I guess I shouldn't count thorred, which still leaves 2.

I don't casual throw around votes (aside from the random at the beginning, I gotta change that) and I do the same with FOS.

[PBuG]

PBuG -- You didn't answer my question of you on the last page. Why the unbandwagoning? Coupled with the admission that you're trying to be careful, I think I have good reason for upgrading my FOS.

It was because I happened to find you more suspicious than Andie, and I'd rather base bandwagons on suspicion more than on convienience. However, because I don't have any suspicion torwards anyone, I'll just

Unvote: Yaw

Vote: Argoti

If you want a roleclaim, here it is:
I am the Head Cheerleader. Each night I may stand near someone else, and my popularity rubs off on them for the night, and any evidence of unpopularity is deemed useless. Night 1 I potected Talitha.

[Yaw]

Crap. I completely buy that claim, and I really didn't want a doc coming out this early.

Unvote: PBuG

.

Argoti has four votes of six. I'm almost ready to vote for him, but I want to hear a claim first.

[Uraj45]

unvote PBuG

don't know what else to do now. . .

[Talitha]

Yikes. Please, anyone else who has a useful role, don't claim unless it's absolutely necessary. And yeah, I agree we can leave PBuG alone for now. Maybe look at him again if he's still alive in a couple of days.

Argoti: It wasn't only your low number of posts that made me vote for you - it was also that you seemed to be hanging back, and there isn't a lot of content in your posts.
To quote DP: "Quiet is supicious, because scum not posting means scum not making mistakes."
Behaviour like yours is one of the first things that sets off my scum radar.

[Vraak X]

*shudders at the thought of PBuG as a cheerleader*

[melchizedek]

I would like to here Yaw's claim also.

I'm sorry I have been somewhat inactive in this game but this week has been particularly busy and I have only had very small amounts of time online. I have been reading the thread, but have not had enough time to post.

[vIQleS]

Post Count:

Argoti - 4 (BadAndie, PBuG, Samadhi, Talitha)
PBuG - 1 (Jaguar)
Samadhi - 1 (thorred)

6 to Lynch

[Jaguar]

unvote PBuG

. Although when I first read that claim I thought it meant that you were hiding scummy people from an investigative type role... I stand next to someone and my coolness rubs off on them. If they were uncool, a cop would not be able to tell, rather than any attempt on their coolness by someone uncool would not take.

Ah well, on to the next wagon. Argoti, I do find you suspicious for the various reasons already pointed out by others, the main one being that your posts don't really say anything. At this time I will not put the fifth vote on, but if I don't hear a better explanation, I will later.

[thorred]

unvote samadhi

(forgot to unvote random vote)
PBug I think has cleared himself, and Uraj45 I will give the benefit of the doubt.
Melchizedek, why do you want Yaw to come out with a claim? I don't think that is necessary now. Very fishy, so

vote melchizedek

.
On the Argoti bandwagon, I won't vote yet unless he comes up with a better explanation. But i will put a

big FOS on Argoti

.
(And I'm not sure how much I should trust Talitha's scum radar, I think it's broken. )

[Samadhi]

So basically we have Argoti merely arguing that we should have gone after someone else with low posts. Well, that's certainly a good way to raise your post count without adding any substance.

When I went through the posts to count them it made it really easy to follow Talitha's lead. You had tied the other two low posters just 5 posts earlier by saying you didn't have anything to say. Both of the other two player's posts were substantive (on topic and reasonable length [35, 145 words for T and 20, 51 words for M]). Yours really weren't.

Anyway, it's possible you're not scum. But you got our attention. So you're the next contestant on The Bandwagon is Right! (until it decides it's not).

[Yaw]

Melchizedek -- I don't have a problem with claiming per se, but I'd like a bit more info before doing it. It's my understanding that we're better off catching scum if the scum know as little about us as possible. I'm afraid role-claiming would give them a target list. I'll do whatever's best for the town, though, so if most of you want me to claim, I'll do so. I do request that at least I should claim after Argoti. Assuming he's scum, we don't want to give him any ideas to put in his claim. Sound fair?

(Although looking up, with two people already against my claiming it doesn't look like you're getting one right now. Such is democracy.)

[PBuG]

melchizedek, usually when someone claims it's because they feel that they might be lynched, and it's usually when they have half or more of the votes needed to be lynched. I had about 3, so I claimed. Gimme an R! Gimme a O! Gimme a... oh whatever. Yay Roleclaims!

[Talitha]

(And I'm not sure how much I should trust Talitha's scum radar, I think it's broken. )

Ha! We won the game in the end didn't we? Sorry that you had to be collateral damage

I agree with Yaw and PBuG. No-one should be claiming unless they are in imminent danger of being lynched. It will help the scum. PBuG claimed too soon in my opinion. However Argoti should definitely consider claiming, seeing as he has 4/6 votes, and others who are threatening to vote.

I'll

FOS: melchizedek

for now. Because I agree with thorred that his last post was interesting.

[Uraj45]

Samhidi I think we really don't have to get into anymore statistics in terms of posting. Yea, lurking is suspicious, but we don't have to go into so much detail relying on lurking as a guaranteed sign of scumminess.
Trying to get people to claim for no good reason. . .now that's a lot more suspicious.

Vote melchizedek

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Role claiming should only be used when absolutely necesary. It gives the mafia a big advantage.

[Argoti]

Alright, fine

I'm a

Stoner

Apparently, I had a night action, but I forgot it. I guess I'm a townie.

[Yaw]

While it's conceivable that vIQleS is taking his cue from

Dazed and Confused

, what we've seen so far doesn't bear that out. That role claim looks like it's from a different high school than this one, and I don't buy it.

Vote: Argoti

[melchizedek]

I'm sorry my post said the wrong name. I guess I really ought to have reread it. It was supposed to say I wanted to hear argoti's claim, which by the way, I don't believe. I agree that we don't want anyone to come out unless they need to. It was a simple mistake for which I apologize.

I am fairly sure that their is something wrong with Argoti's claim. It doesn't seem to fit with what I know so far about this game.

Vote: Argoti

And sorry for the mistake.

[Argoti]

Well, I'm dead...

And I really didn't have anything to say.

[Vraak X]

Was that the final vote? Or should I put it on? (sorry folks, I've been quite busy making up homework.. )

Vote: Argoti

[vIQleS]

As a unified mob you search Argoti’s locker to discover that he lives in his parents basement and downloads pictures of Sarah Michelle Geller...

Argoti, Chess Club Geek, is uncool.

It is night: Send choices.

[vIQleS]

Generic High School 'Newspaper'

Teacher Scandal!!!!!

English Teacher John Scandal stayed home today, word on the street is that he might be ill.....

Story back page

Headline!

PBuG has been revealed as a Geek. Inside sources have confirmed that he plays with the hard drive partition table on his hard drive at 0100 hrs without making backups

Pictures on pg3

--====--

PBuG - Head Cheerleader (Townie, Doc) is Uncool

[Jaguar]

Well, it was only to be expected to see PBuG dead I suppose, but still, that sucks.

Right now, the people I find most suspicious are Uraj and Vraak, although thorred also appears to fly across my scum-dar.

Uraj because he unvoted PBuG and then said he didn't know what else to do. He then voted melch, for good reason, but the bandwagon was started on Argoti at that time. He started out with a random vote for Argoti, voted for PBuG and lastly voted for melchizedek.

Vraak, even though he was away for a while, did not post much of anything in the three posts since his return. All his posts were one-liners and he did not vote for anyone at all.

thorred has only four posts in total and although appeared to have been absent for a reason, the reason was never given. Did not vote for Argoti, but when she posted, melch had posted that he wanted to hear Yaw's role when he meant to say Argoti's role, so I can uderstand that. The lynch on Argoti did come rather quickly.

For any of them, it's not really much to go on, but nothing else really stood out much.

Anyone else have any ideas?

[Vraak X]

Please do understand that I have quite a few games to catch up with, so my inactivity could be reasoned. But do not confuse this for me not watching the thread, I am keeping track, I assure you.

It seems as if no new developments have happened. There's not much to be said, and the day closed out a day or two after I came back. There's not too much swiggle room there.

[Yaw]

Damn. I know the framing of PBuG was expected, but it's still bad.

I re-read the thread before commenting. By the time Vraak X showed up, it seemed the lynch on Argoti was pretty much assured, so I don't really blame him much for little content on day 1.

Two things stuck out at me on the read-through.

The first was melchizedek's post 71.

We shouldn't be bandwagoning w/o any info. Any bandwagon we create should based on significant suspicious behavior. Therefore I'll FOS: Yaw for supporting bandwagon activity w/o reason. We should wait until someone screws up, which they always do sooner or later, to bandwagon them. Otherwise we'll end up killing a townie.

In a way he's being consistent -- he did only vote after it was pretty certain Argoti was scummy. By the time he voted, Argoti was dead no matter what, so throwing on the last vote certainly doesn't clear him. Bandwagoning for pressure, though, is important as town, so not wanting to do it strikes me as strange. I'm really not sure about melchizedek right now.

On the other hand, look at Uraj. Ignoring the silly MtG argument, the first thing he does is follow my vote on PBuG without explanation. He then does nothing before unvoting after the doc claim...and doesn't express an opinion at that point even though Argoti's definitely acting scummy enough by then to merit at least an FOS from most people. He then puts a second vote on melchizedek over his claiming request mistake, starting a competing bandwagon and

still

making little comment about Argoti. The only thing he's done that

wasn't

scummy was defending MtG, but that's mostly because it's hard to believe that anyone that actually

is

scum would defend a product that they used to ostracise someone. I'm leaning towards that first "defense" being a ruse; Uraj playing at Vizzini to throw us off the scent.

FOS: Uraj45