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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:56 am
by Bins
don't expect me to lay my reads out this game

reasons
that will literally become obv clear

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:59 am
by Heartless
Delenn wrote:@Heartless, Shiro has more of a dominant personality as scum, similar to my own. I just finished Jungle Republic with her.

A skim of her ISO doesn't give me a remarkably different impression from her play this game.

Don't shut me down based on stuff like this, Titus. It's bad form.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:03 pm
by Delenn
Heartless wrote:
Delenn wrote:@Heartless, Shiro has more of a dominant personality as scum, similar to my own. I just finished Jungle Republic with her.

A skim of her ISO doesn't give me a remarkably different impression from her play this game.

Don't shut me down based on stuff like this, Titus. It's bad form.


You got your skim. I lived it. Obviously, you wouldn't lie as conftown but Shiro was very aggressive with me the entire time, and buttering me up.

This just doesn't jive with what you are saying.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:03 pm
by Heartless
Bins wrote:
Heartless wrote:Bins is shaping up to be a not-terrible vote.

my wagon will be a colossal waste of your time

if only i could PM the mod to conftown me

Spoiler: Owie :(
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:05 pm
by Heartless
Delenn wrote:You got your skim. I lived it. Obviously, you wouldn't lie as conftown but Shiro was very aggressive with me the entire time, and buttering me up.

This just doesn't jive with what you are saying.

Your sample size here is five pages and you're working from the assumption Shiro would take the exact same approach as scum. These are two problems I came up with off the top of my head with little effort.

You really feel strongly enough about it to fight me on this?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:08 pm
by Delenn
I feel meta is shit. But experience trumps ad hoc reading.

If you want me to vote Shiro, you're going to need in thread evidence.

Why are you fighting me on Spiffeh?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:18 pm
by Heartless
Delenn wrote:I feel meta is shit. But experience trumps ad hoc reading.

Do I hear ego creeping in?
I don't want to. :(

Delenn wrote:Why are you fighting me on Spiffeh?

I'm not town reading him but I feel like he's in trouble for not following site norms that he wouldn't necessarily even know about. Honestly, I think the worst thing in his posting is suggesting the mass claim and then distancing himself from it when it brought some heat. The other points seem oversold.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:21 pm
by Delenn
Heartless, Be worried if you don't hear ego.

If we want three lynches, we need to get out of each other's way without compromising on our beliefs (if we can).

Why not vote Spiffeh because there's scummy things in thread and while we're lynching him you make the case on Shiro stronger than meta?

We can still only lynch one scum at a time.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:28 pm
by Delenn
Hi, Klingon head here, why aren't we lynching Ank?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:34 pm
by Delenn
Delenn wrote:Hi, Klingon head here, why aren't we lynching Ank?


It's likely protest rather than anything else. I doubt think anyone seriously thinks they are going to policy lynch conftown D1.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:35 pm
by Aristophanes
Delenn wrote:Hi, Klingon head here, why aren't we lynching Ank?
Hey Klingon!
We can later today if you feel strongly about it. But on what basis?
Them not unvoting conftown?

I don't disagree that their play there is dumb, but do you have any other reasoning?

Also,
VOTE: Spiffeh
Their call for a mass claim of sorts, aggressive defensiveness, and counter at Davsto are damning and I don't like their tone at all.

Unsure where that places them vote wide tbh.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:38 pm
by Delenn
Aristophanes wrote:
Delenn wrote:Hi, Klingon head here, why aren't we lynching Ank?
Hey Klingon!
We can later today if you feel strongly about it. But on what basis?
Them not unvoting conftown?

I don't disagree that their play there is dumb, but do you have any other reasoning?



Yeah, not unvoting is pretty aggro, it doesn't exactly scream Town.

But he can wait. It looks like Spiffeh is first.


Kling

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:49 pm
by Spiffeh
Titus head seems to have it out for me. If you guys go through with lynching me you do what scum wants.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:53 pm
by Spiffeh
I've had a lot on my plate which is why my posting quality isn't up to snuff.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:01 pm
by Delenn
Spiffeh wrote:I've had a lot on my plate which is why my posting quality isn't up to snuff.


I can relate to distractions, but in a game like this you need to be as focused as possible.

If it helps, on the SC2 site Day phases last 48 hours. At least here one has time to try and redeem oneself.

I'm still sure that you're Scum tho.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:01 pm
by Delenn
^ Klingon ^

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:11 pm
by Spiffeh
Reading things over I probably overreacted about Davsto voting for me.

I think the play today is to follow the confirmed town's lead.

VOTE: Shiro

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:14 pm
by Aristophanes
Spiffeh wrote:Reading things over I probably overreacted about Davsto voting for me.

I think the play today is to follow the confirmed town's lead.

VOTE: Shiro

Conftown and correct aren't synonyms you know.
Conftown can be wrong as easily as anyone else can.

We also have up to 3 lynches today.

Spiffeh, can you make me a case on Shiro other than "because Heartless said so" please?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:19 pm
by hiplop
Heartless wrote:
Delenn wrote:I feel meta is shit. But experience trumps ad hoc reading.

Do I hear ego creeping in?
I don't want to. :(

Delenn wrote:Why are you fighting me on Spiffeh?

I'm not town reading him but I feel like he's in trouble for not following site norms that he wouldn't necessarily even know about. Honestly, I think the worst thing in his posting is suggesting the mass claim and then distancing himself from it when it brought some heat. The other points seem oversold.

this isnt spiffehs first game

but hes never played scum before. Gee, i wonder why he seems so normal in other games and so robotic and obvscum in this one?

hes not new to mafia hes new to being scum. lynch with fire

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:22 pm
by Aristophanes
I just took a quick look at the link to the previous game (which was amazing btw).
@Nether,
With Marshall in play, when each player gets lynched, this means they are effectively removed from the game, but without a flip, untileither deadline or all three lynches are reached. Is this correct?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:24 pm
by Heartless
'mkay bins claims neutral benign.

anyone wanna' cc while the iron's hot?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:24 pm
by Spiffeh
So I'm being lynched because people think they know how I play when I've only been on this site for three months?

Great idea.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:47 pm
by ika
Ari the answer is yes I'm still at work so be done soon

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:05 pm
by ika
ok so i skimmed we have a neutral claim by bins?

did she say what she is cus policy regarding sc2 game meta is to nearly lynch them on first notice

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:20 pm
by Aristophanes
Spiffeh wrote:So I'm being lynched because people think they know how I play when I've only been on this site for three months?

Great idea.
I'm trying to engage you.
You are ignoring me.
Nice try with the AtE.

ika wrote:Ari the answer is yes I'm still at work so be done soon
Cool, good to know. Thanks Ika!

If they are neutral, doesn't that mean their wincon can go either way?
Possible asset, unless I'm missing something.