Open 638: Friends and Enemies! (And Enemies!) - GAME OVER!

[Kasumeat]

Do you at least know what post I am talking about?

Yes. Please explain why Ranger might intentionally make that mistake, because I can't come up with any plausible explanations.

[KuroiXHF]

Vote Count - Day One - VC#4

killthestory - 3 - Ranger, randomidget, Karnos
Creature - 0 -
Kop - 0 -
Masquerade- 1 - Ranger
Kasumeat - 0 -
Javajoe24 - 0 -
Ranger - 2 - Kasumeat, Javajoe
karnos - 0 -
BTD6_maker - 0 -
DrDolittle - 0 -
randomidget - 4 - Kop, Creature, BTD6_maker, killthestory
Charloux - 1 - Masquerade

Not Voting: DrDolittle, Charloux

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch!

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

(expired on 2016-05-24 11:13:00)

Mod Notes:
- It's been twenty four hours since Dr. DoLittle's prod and I see no reason why he'll come back any time soon.

I will search for a replacement for Dr. DoLittle.

[Creature]

Nvm.

I forgot about post 77. Still quite thought it was a reaction test.

[Creature]

Mod gets post #100!

Sad

[Kop]

VOTE: kasumeat

I like this vote simply because it appears he isn't reading the thread in great deal like town would.

[Kasumeat]

VOTE: kasumeat

I like this vote simply because it appears he isn't reading the thread in great deal like town would.

lol at this vote right after I make the first real effortpost of the game and then Creature follows it up with "oops, I didn't read the thread properly"

Can you please point out a single post where it indicates I haven't been reading? Reading less than Ranger who just posted a read on the moderator?

[Masquerade]

Kop didn't say you weren't reading.

[Randomnamechange]

Yeah, that's a poor vote kop. His push on Joe would be a better reason

[Masquerade]

I kinda think that is part of the reason though.

[Kasumeat]

VOTE: kasumeat

I like this vote simply because it appears he isn't reading the thread in great deal like town would.

I kinda think that is part of the reason though.

Masq, I am really struggling to see how you reach your conclusion based on his post. Not only does he explicitly say it's the only reason, Kop has posted literally NOTHING other than this and an RV in this thread.

[Charloux]

If it's obvious that his vote is ridiculous, then your defensive is really strange. I mean if it's obvious then you don't have to defend at all.
-1 town points for you

[Creature]

I am seeing Ranger as town. I believe she usually makes not-so-well-thought gut reads. The Kuroi read seems weird, but I don't see scum motivation behind it.

[Creature]

If it's obvious that his vote is ridiculous, then your defensive is really strange. I mean if it's obvious then you don't have to defend at all.
-1 town points for you

How many town points everyone has?

[Charloux]

Well i like using "rating" for my reads, which goes from -10 to 10. Everyone starts at 0 and depending on their posts it changes.

[Kasumeat]

If it's obvious that his vote is ridiculous, then your defensive is really strange. I mean if it's obvious then you don't have to defend at all.
-1 town points for you

Eh I guess. I got defensive because it felt like Masq was ready to jump on.

[Kasumeat]

I am seeing Ranger as town. I believe she usually makes not-so-well-thought gut reads. The Kuroi read seems weird, but I don't see scum motivation behind it.

There isn't motivation behind mistakes.

[Creature]

I'm also suspicious of KTS right now for the same reasons, but that readlist by Ranger with the Moderator in it is super sketchy. I've never that specific slip before, but it smacks of "I'm not really thinking about these reads, I'm constructing them" which is scummy as fuck. Every time I've seen players give reads on dead players, it's been a scumslip.

VOTE: Ranger

I am seeing Ranger as town. I believe she usually makes not-so-well-thought gut reads. The Kuroi read seems weird, but I don't see scum motivation behind it.

There isn't motivation behind mistakes.

Funny.

[Masquerade]

@Kasumeat: 1, I can sort of see what Kop means but I have no read on Kop yet and nothing close to a strong read on you so I'm just going to see where this is going.
2. I know Kop and he isn't a man of many words. His inactivity isn't alignment indicative.
3. What charloux said.

Speaking of which..

UNVOTE: About time I removed my RVSvote.

@Creature, I'm not sure how to read Ranger, I just realized that many games I had with her were games where one of us replaced in so there's not a lot of early-game experience I have with her. Rn I'm inclined to think she made up (part of) her reads because if she had actually paid attention she'd know Kuroi is not a player but the mod. For me it's a lot different then missing someone that died. There's also something else that I don't want to add before Ranger responds because that will influence how I'll read her.

@Kasumeat: Not scum motivation does not equal town motivation. You just completely destroyed your own point on Ranger.

VOTE: Kasumeat

[Masquerade]

PEdit didn't even show all the new posts :/

[Randomnamechange]

Masq's defense of Kop was a bit off.

[Kasumeat]

@Kasumeat: Not scum motivation does not equal town motivation. You just completely destroyed your own point on Ranger.

VOTE: Kasumeat

I have no idea what you're trying to say with this sentence but it doesn't make sense. Let me explain again what I said to Creature.

Creature says that he doesn't see the motivation for Ranger to make that mistake. This doesn't make any sense. Mistakes don't have motivation, they happen

despite

motivation. What I'm saying isn't contradictory at all.

[Charloux]

Uhm mistakes CAN have motivation. I think Ranger added the mod's name so you have an easier time understanding her list.

[Ranger]

Do you actually have strong reads yet or are even the bottom ones weak?

It's actually kinda in the middle. My top two tiers are fairly solid townreads, but my bottom two tiers are not fairly solid scumreads, as can be inferred by how they've swapped positions between pages. They're sort-of gaining steam though.

Agree with you mostly here, not sure where the btd6 scumread is coming from here.

They're no longer a scumread as of their response above, but I can explain where I was coming from on them if you'd like.

@Ranger: Mind explaining how Random came to be a top townread for you?

Given the read still holds and we're in early-game? No, not at this time. Ask again later.

I personally find it more like a confused Town.

Yeah, been here, done that, gonna shoot this down right now. Not town, not scum, just derp. I saw Kuroi post 49. That didn't register as a bump for a page top; it registered to me as a player posting in the RVS, but I couldn't read the post. It didn't feel inherently town, but I wasn't particularly bothered by it. Which, ironically, is a perfect description for the moderator, thus my 77.

But ranger is doing these reads by page I am thinking, and mod posts are colored, so I fail to see how an experienced player like ranger might get confused as town.

49 was not colored. Ergo, I thought Kuroi was a player, not the moderator, specifically

because

Kuroi had been coloring all his mod posts prior to then. Go check for yourself. Kuroi, as a moderator, posts in an ugly barely readable color on the maftigers skin I use. I don't really read who the moderator is. I'm in every ongoing Open game right now, so all moderators blend together; I see the game by the setup rather than who is modding it. Kuroi neglected to color his bump post, giving the impression to me he was a player. When I saw Kuroi answering questions in color, I was confused, until I realized my mistake. That simple.

[Ranger]

Oh, whoops, that was meant to have a readslist.

{randomidget}
{Creature, Kop}
{Charloux, karnos, BTD6, Javajoe}
{Killthestory}
{Masquerade, Kasumeat}

[Masquerade]

Yeah my fingers were a lot faster than my head just now and it's not making a lot of sense to me anymore either. Gonna take a small break. I have this nagging feeling of being on to something but it's just out of reach..

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