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Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:38 pm
by Titus
Backwards. I means zakk scum with copper town.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:39 pm
by Titus
I mean copper scum gdi.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:48 pm
by TehBrawlGuy
The whole statistics discussion is stupid and doesn't read natural. Feels like a poor attempt at distancing to me, as does Ircher's "go vote shotty". VOTE: Ircher

Copper case has no real merit imo. Copper had no reason to unvote/vote anyone else, but also no reason to actually believe Ircher was more likely to be scum than anyone else at the time.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:05 pm
by Egg
Drmy, what were you referncing with your first post?

Vote Ircher

For posts 11 and 12. I've never liked it when people stress that votes on them are RVS. And the post before it feels nervous about being voted while trying not to convey that.

Copper, which of Ircher's posts on Page 1 gave you the "sure of himself" vibe?

Ircher's OMGUS crusade against drmy is pretty bad.

I lost brain cells reading the probability discussion on Page 3.

I've got at least some level of a town read on drmy, copper, zakk, and Magna (in that order). That's as of the end of Page 3. Will say so if that changes.

Killthestory, you said you know your alignment now. What is it?

Acknowledging that an Ircher wagon exists. I'm gonna keep my vote there.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:06 pm
by Ircher
In post 51, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 50, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 47, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I'm harder to read than... well something hard to read.
No, you aren't. You know you aren't so stop puffing out your chest like Big Bad Leroy Brown.
This won't help me here, but I will defend my meta here. I think my scum win rate is now like 70-80%.
In post 52, Ircher wrote:
In post 50, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 47, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I'm harder to read than... well something hard to read.
No, you aren't. You know you aren't so stop puffing out your chest like Big Bad Leroy Brown.
You know who is though? RC.

Pedit: And how often you draw scum?
In post 53, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 52, Ircher wrote:
In post 50, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 47, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I'm harder to read than... well something hard to read.
No, you aren't. You know you aren't so stop puffing out your chest like Big Bad Leroy Brown.
You know who is though? RC.

Pedit: And how often you draw scum?
I have a wiki
Shotty's the one who brought it up by mentioning his scum winrate. He's also the one who pressed the convo.

Why is everyone blaming me for the statistics convo?

PEDIT: I guess its pick on Orcher day........

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:09 pm
by zakk
In post 104, Ircher wrote:PEDIT: I guess its pick on Orcher day........
scumplaining

vote: ircher


peeeeerfect example/comparison for this, which i will talk about literally as soon as i can

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:09 pm
by Ircher
@Egg:
In post 11, Ircher wrote:
In post 8, copper223 wrote:VOTE: Ircher
Haven't seen you in forever.....
This is general chit-chat and NAI. Why are you pushing it as such?
In post 12, Ircher wrote:
In post 10, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 8, copper223 wrote:VOTE: Ircher
why?
Its RVS.
Shotty did ask. I answered. How is that scum-motivated?
Pedit:

Arent you already voting me???

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:11 pm
by Ircher
In post 105, zakk wrote:
In post 104, Ircher wrote:PEDIT: I guess its pick on Orcher day........
scumplaining

vote: ircher


peeeeerfect example/comparison for this, which i will talk about literally as soon as i can
Well, like 90% of everyone who's posted has voted me, and 75%+ of those votes are NAI reasons, so yeah, it feels like "Pick on Ircher Day".

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:13 pm
by Egg
Drmy mentioned that he's good at playing scum (why bring that up if he's scum?). You turned it into the whole "how often is he scum" thing which is the part that was weird because it's only relevant if you are looking for how accurate his win % is (obviously more games would make it more representitive of his play and less would have the opposite effect) or if you are looking for meta (I didn't get that impression).

Preview edit:
The above is at Ircher.

Also Ircher, can you clarify your question? I never brought up "general chit chat" or whatever "NAI" means. And yes, drmy asked copper about his vote. The fact that you answered instead is what makes it feel jumpy.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:14 pm
by Killthestory
In post 103, Egg wrote:Drmy, what were you referncing with your first post?

Vote Ircher

For posts 11 and 12. I've never liked it when people stress that votes on them are RVS. And the post before it feels nervous about being voted while trying not to convey that.

Copper, which of Ircher's posts on Page 1 gave you the "sure of himself" vibe?

Ircher's OMGUS crusade against drmy is pretty bad.

I lost brain cells reading the probability discussion on Page 3.

I've got at least some level of a town read on drmy, copper, zakk, and Magna (in that order). That's as of the end of Page 3. Will say so if that changes.

Killthestory, you said you know your alignment now. What is it?

Acknowledging that an Ircher wagon exists. I'm gonna keep my vote there.
dont be dumb. any person with half a brain would say town. stupid fucking filler question

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:15 pm
by Ircher
In post 108, Egg wrote:Drmy mentioned that he's good at playing scum (why bring that up if he's scum?). You turned it into the whole "how often is he scum" thing which is the part that was weird because it's only relevant if you are looking for how accurate his win % is (obviously more games would make it more representitive of his play and less would have the opposite effect) or if you are looking for meta (I didn't get that impression).

Preview edit:
The above is at Ircher.

Also Ircher, can you clarify your question? I never brought up "general chit chat" or whatever "NAI" means. And yes, drmy asked copper about his vote. The fact that you answered instead is what makes it feel jumpy.
1) He mentioned "He wins 80% of the time as scum"; just stahp.

2) You stated you didliked and ; I told you that both are NAI (Not alignment indicative)

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:17 pm
by Ircher
6/12 votes on me currently....

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:18 pm
by Egg
Killthestory, then why didn't you answer directly? And why didn't you say you were town the first time you brought it up? How often would you say you lie as scum?

Ircher, "1" is correct and obviously wasn't my point. And I disagree with your "2" or I wouldn't be voting you.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:19 pm
by Ircher
In post 112, Egg wrote:Killthestory, then why didn't you answer directly? And why didn't you say you were town the first time you brought it up? How often would you say you lie as scum?

Ircher, "1" is correct and obviously wasn't my point. And I disagree with your "2" or I wouldn't be voting you.
You dont agree with it, but its a fact.

He brought up statistics, I did not; end of discussion.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:22 pm
by Killthestory
In post 112, Egg wrote:Killthestory, then why didn't you answer directly? And why didn't you say you were town the first time you brought it up? How often would you say you lie as scum?

Ircher, "1" is correct and obviously wasn't my point. And I disagree with your "2" or I wouldn't be voting you.
this is honestly one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:23 pm
by Egg
No, it's not a fact. Reads, by definition, are based on opinions. My opinion is that the votes on you are stressing you out which at this stage in the game tends to indicate scum, especially if you are the type of player who prefers to be town.

And I already showed you the difference between his statistics and yours. Stop pretending I didn't.

Preview edit: Humor me and answer anyway.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:24 pm
by Ircher
Ok, all 6 of you who are voting me:

Make me a detailed case not only pointing out what is scummy but also explaining in detail why its scummy. What Egg has done is not by any means close to what I'm asking for.


Pedit: Except, general chit-chat and answering questions isnt scummy. Thats a fact.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:27 pm
by Killthestory
In post 115, Egg wrote:No, it's not a fact. Reads, by definition, are based on opinions. My opinion is that the votes on you are stressing you out which at this stage in the game tends to indicate scum, especially if you are the type of player who prefers to be town.

And I already showed you the difference between his statistics and yours. Stop pretending I didn't.

Preview edit: Humor me and answer anyway.
this is meaningless

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:29 pm
by Killthestory
In post 116, Ircher wrote:Ok, all 6 of you who are voting me:

Make me a detailed case not only pointing out what is scummy but also explaining in detail why its scummy. What Egg has done is not by any means close to what I'm asking for.


Pedit: Except, general chit-chat and answering questions isnt scummy. Thats a fact.
no

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:29 pm
by Egg
Ircher, I've gone into as much detail as I possibly can.

To be honest, I'd be pretty ok with speedlynching Ircher and Killthestory already...

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:29 pm
by zakk
that's fine. i'm fine with that.

1. the fact you keep bringing up how often you've been scum. its a complete fallacy
2. the "pick on ircher day" comment sounds veeeery close to what i've seen scum say before
3. this wagon is the best wagon, and i am a wagoner. love wagons. love em.
4. wagons are there for analysis. and reaction testing. and also lynching scum, but don't forget the other two
5. if you're not scum, that'll show itself before 7 more people vote you, so i'm fine w/this wagon
6. i like lists.




not buying titus' copper stuff btw



p-edit: LOL at killthestory

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:31 pm
by Egg
Actually, yeah, considering the whole "drmy is scum more than normal" thing, mentioning only having two scum games looks pretty bad too.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:32 pm
by Titus
Ircher, kindly shut the fuck up. The more your case gets talked about, the more credence it appears to have although it's total garbage RVS. You know it. I know it. If you actually did the slightest thing scummy, I'd be all over it. You just haven't.

You realize how Copper has displayed
actual inconsistencies
and people are pushing awkard things you are saying because they don't like math. Get real.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:33 pm
by Ircher
If that happens, remember when I flip town that Shotty and Egg were the two huge activists for the lynch.

Pedit:

1) Maybe fallacious, not scum indicative
2) "One-Size-Does-Not-Fit-All"
3) That's stupid cuz this wagon is crap
4) But why this wagon?
5) I already defended myself more than adequately. Not an argument.
6) Ok, have bullets just for bullets.

Only 1 good argument out of the 6 bullets you provided; try harder.

Pedit: @Titus -- My vote's on Copper right now. I have to explain this to these hard-heads though.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:35 pm
by Egg
Titus, which Ircher votes do you think are RVS?