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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:45 am

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In post 81, Drone wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker

That's not an answer. I don't see how OMGUS'ing is scummy. You're just throwing shade at people.
Who gives a shit about what you think, i said that "inb4 omgus" because i expected uou guys to call omgus on my vote. I am bot even discussing if omgus is scummy or not, try to actually read before voting and outing stupid ass reads
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:47 am

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In post 83, Tenshii wrote:
In post 74, CloudKicker wrote:Why do you scumread me, go.
Also youre wrong about rvs, if you alignement tell with a random vote below page 5
youre not a really good player
In post 76, CloudKicker wrote:
Turkish looks like obvious town,
hellfire claims to not know what hes doing, but i feel like hes also a bit dumbtelling on purpose. Thenshii had the worst first post so far on the whole table and he foses 2 towns
The bold shows hypocrisy considering that as of this post, it's Page 4. Also I scumread you because you apparently suspect me for multiple reasons yet you aren't voting me.
Rvs by votes, not by tone. I dont read first 5 pages based off votes
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:51 am

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And drone is voting on a misunderstanding. The omgus would make me scummy, not the guy i fosed aka tenssgi. So ure voting me because you thibk i placed shade on tenshii, but actually i just implied that mu read wsnt omgus=that i am not scummy for that
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:52 am

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And byw this town is getting handled by the balls pretty severely and i am not going to tryhard to carry this table. So if ure town unvote rn and then maybe you can sheep me if you want credit in lynching mafia
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 99, CloudKicker wrote:I litteraly outed that desmond is most likely town, despite h being fosed by blunt or so -> he should actually believe that i am town from his pov or at least towny for defending him, tet he votes me out of the blue as 3rd votes with a weak sheep -> thats scummy boi
"He should actually believe that I am town". Lol.
"Then he votes me out of the as 3rd vote with a weak sheep". That's how wagoning works, some are just for pressure to get answers on relevant questions.

In post 100, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 81, Drone wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker

That's not an answer. I don't see how OMGUS'ing is scummy. You're just throwing shade at people.
Who gives a shit about what you think, i said that "inb4 omgus" because i expected uou guys to call omgus on my vote. I am bot even discussing if omgus is scummy or not, try to actually read before voting and outing stupid ass reads
"Who gives a shit about what you think" - You do. I'm one of those who have the power to decide whether you'll play or not. That kind of saying won't keep you alive for long, I believe people will start growing tired of the nonsense you talk.

"I said that "Inb4 omgus" because I expected you guys to call omgus on my vote". What does it have to do with what I said?

I was discussing what you said about omgusing, the fact you are NOT discussing it is why I'm voting you.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 103, CloudKicker wrote:And byw this town is getting handled by the balls pretty severely and i am not going to tryhard to carry this table. So if ure town unvote rn and then maybe you can sheep me if you want credit in lynching mafia
Lol wut?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:56 am

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In post 98, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 78, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 76, CloudKicker wrote:Also, so far

Turkish looks like obvious town, hellfire claims to not know what hes doing, but i feel like hes also a bit dumbtelling on purpose. Thenshii had the worst first post so far on the whole table and he foses 2 towns
Dumbtelling?

Thanks for the.... uh...... vote of confidence.

For real, how do i tell who is scum and who is town? Is there- I know that there's personal tips and stuff but- i just looked on the wiki, read through it, still confused as ever (slightly less :P) BUT. Is it just experience and as you go on? Tips, i don't really know what i'm saying anymore, just rambling on, need help on how to decide or form opinions on people roles and stuff.
A good starting scumtell to works on are contradicting statements
Are there any contradicting statements yet?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:58 am

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Anyone notice that Raskolnikov hasn't posted anything? Just a vote? Pretty sure you have but just putting it out there..
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:01 am

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From my experience with Raskolnikov, we'll be waiting on her a few times, here and there.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:01 am

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In post 106, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 98, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 78, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 76, CloudKicker wrote:Also, so far

Turkish looks like obvious town, hellfire claims to not know what hes doing, but i feel like hes also a bit dumbtelling on purpose. Thenshii had the worst first post so far on the whole table and he foses 2 towns
Dumbtelling?

Thanks for the.... uh...... vote of confidence.

For real, how do i tell who is scum and who is town? Is there- I know that there's personal tips and stuff but- i just looked on the wiki, read through it, still confused as ever (slightly less :P) BUT. Is it just experience and as you go on? Tips, i don't really know what i'm saying anymore, just rambling on, need help on how to decide or form opinions on people roles and stuff.
A good starting scumtell to works on are contradicting statements
Are there any contradicting statements yet?
I don't know, YOU tell us. That's a part of being an active player.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:07 am

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Cloud, why do you think that turkish is obviously town?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:26 am

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In post 109, Drone wrote:
In post 106, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 98, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 78, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 76, CloudKicker wrote:Also, so far

Turkish looks like obvious town, hellfire claims to not know what hes doing, but i feel like hes also a bit dumbtelling on purpose. Thenshii had the worst first post so far on the whole table and he foses 2 towns
Dumbtelling?

Thanks for the.... uh...... vote of confidence.

For real, how do i tell who is scum and who is town? Is there- I know that there's personal tips and stuff but- i just looked on the wiki, read through it, still confused as ever (slightly less :P) BUT. Is it just experience and as you go on? Tips, i don't really know what i'm saying anymore, just rambling on, need help on how to decide or form opinions on people roles and stuff.
A good starting scumtell to works on are contradicting statements
Are there any contradicting statements yet?
I don't know, YOU tell us. That's a part of being an active player.
Well, i have no fucking idea what I'm doing okay? I'd love to, but so far, i STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:44 am

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Hey drone, do you understand how fucking stupid your vote on me is ? You say that i tried to push shade on someone with calling omgus when you dont think its scummy.

You have 3 choices here:
1. You unvote me because your vote is based off a misundertanding that i carefully explained, if you have any further questions about why it was a misunderstanding, unvote and i will explain to you.
2. Keep voitng me because you fos me outside the misunderstanding, which would be fair
3. Keep voting me because you fos me even tho i explained the omgus stuff, this is the same as claiming -> idiot or mafa
4. Being an ass because you dont undestand why i said that ''who gives a fuck about what you think'' and have a big ego, then ego lynch town and then, you look scummy and this is unfavorable for town. So if you are town, this is a really really bad play.


Now, I will EVEN EXPLAIN FURTHER WHAT YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND.

DO you understand when i say that i have 8000 games on epicmafia ? I READ THOUSAND OF PEOPLE, with meta and not meta, hundreds of people with 15000 games, who are better than me.

OMGUS is a constructs, it means : 'o my god you suck' -> which means : i think you are mafia sided because you wouldnt fos me for being town -> you suck at the game or ure mafia

Drone, you also are obvious town because you rxn is so darn stupid and you had thousands chances to just not keep walking into the misunderstanding, something scum would just gladly try to turn it into buddying me or some shit.

I AM ACTUALLY TRYING TO NOT GET LYNCHED HERE, BECAUSE I AM TOWN AND I CAN WIN THIS GAME IF YOU GUYS DONT VOTE ME BASED ON STUPID ASSUMPTIONS UNDER 5 GODDAM PAGES, LIKE SERIOUSLY.


Also, BBT i need you here, i am literraly appealing to unclear because i need help to convince the town that i am trying to not screw this whole game. This is ate yes, ate isnt alignement indicative. I got lynched hundreds of times by subpar who cannot understand that this isnt alignement related.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:48 am

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IF ANYOONE DARE HAMMER HERE WHEN, YALL BE READING MY ISO AFTER MY FLIP AND BE LIKE : UH THIS DUDE WAS TOTE OBV TOWN, WHYD YOU EVEN SR HIM FOR CLAIMING TOWN ????? AND THIS TOWN WILL EXPLODE.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:53 am

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Unvote cloud from l-1, we aren't having a claim this early.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:55 am

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RASK I LOVE U
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:59 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:07 am

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In post 113, CloudKicker wrote:IF ANYOONE DARE HAMMER HERE WHEN, YALL BE READING MY ISO AFTER MY FLIP AND BE LIKE : UH THIS DUDE WAS TOTE OBV TOWN, WHYD YOU EVEN SR HIM FOR CLAIMING TOWN ????? AND THIS TOWN WILL EXPLODE.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:09 am

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Thats not salt? This ttown is legit trash so far no wonder i am pissed
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 118, CloudKicker wrote:Thats not salt? This ttown is legit trash so far no wonder i am pissed
Chill ._.

(also you spelled town wrong :3)

UNVOTE: Raskolnikov
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:24 am

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VOTE: hellfire missile dudes fake. If you hammer me youre claiming scum
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:47 am

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TKD town
Cloud probably town

Need info but should be easy

Blake ?t
Hellfire ?t
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Difficult sorts

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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:26 am

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Okay so, we have some very fresh players. PSA, if anyone hammers this early into the day you will be lynched tomorrow on policy.

Theorytalk! IC usually does this but BBT is busy doing whatever those italians do in their free time.

Why lynching very early in a day is bad

Town wins via communication and information, the more the better. You need a certain minimum to be able to analyse and find patterns. If a day ends too quickly you usually can't get much out of it next day.
Even if a person is scum it's bad to rush their lynch, as you're denying scum the opportunity to make associative tells. In other words, how people react to the wagon of a scum is important, as you may find the partner through this. So you want to give everyone the chance to react to a wagon as well.
But particularly it's on the chance that a person is town that you want to give them the opportunity to change people's minds and prevent their lynch.

That doesn't mean playing every day to deadline though. Just a solid few days minimum, a respectable level of back-and-forth discussion, and a basic stance/viewpoint on the wagon (and if against the wagon, who the alternative they would prefer to lynch is) given/made public by every player is good. Typically day 1 has a few wagons and a lot of people doing different things until people get finally tired and consolidate on one, which has the most support.

There's also roles and claims which is complicated, but another reason against early lynching. The tl;dr of it is you should never hammer someone without getting their roleclaim.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:27 am

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In post 120, CloudKicker wrote:VOTE: hellfire missile dudes fake. If you hammer me youre claiming scum
First, evidence please

Second, I never claimed nor said i was going to hammer

Third, I just unvoted someone because he stopped lurking

Fourth, what the actual fuck is wrong with you. Baseless claim. Calm down, and think this through.

Consider. What has (i guess me) done? Has he done X? What about Y? Etc Etc

calm down ._.




really calm down ._.


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" if anyone hammers this early into the day you will be lynched tomorrow on policy."

I haven't hammered. Not saying anything, BUT. CHILL :/

Also, has the mod even come back and updated the vote list thingy?
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:37 am

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Guys, seriously. If i ever get lynched d1, please, take into consideration this read: hellfire is mafia

also, raks is also obvious town.
-> rask, turkish, and the other dude i tred
->hell fire is mafia

->tenshii prob town and pr
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