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I don't see how reading Naomi will be difficult. The only actual oddities she's described in her own play are - tendency toward defensiveness regardless of alignment, and replacement of scum/town with red/green. How does that render her unreadable?

Personally I'm null on her right now but that's because of a lack of content, not because of her oddities. Saying she'll be difficult to read looks like a pre-excuse.

In post 99, Creeps20 wrote:

In post 85, MortFeld wrote:Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:

Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and

Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'

UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps

Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.

Referring to me or you?

In post 93, MortFeld wrote:It's not WIFOM. You voted Misa for a reason and I'm asking you to explain the reason.

The WIFOM is that scum wouldn't be voting him as that would give him away. But scum could take advantage of that. But scum might think town suspects that so won't do it.

Referring to Misa. Your logic is bad and you are also scummy.

I disagree that there is much WIFOM. I think scum are very unlikely, seeing their scum buddy do something, to call that exact thing scummy. Even if it is WIFOM, you are still voting based on one side of the WIFOM. It's a bad vote with your reasons.

IT'S RVS IT'S USED FOR PRESSURE AND IT'S USED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO POST AND ALSO TO THINK THEIR REASONING OUT BEFORE THEY POST AND TO PROMPT POSTS LIKE THIS 62. IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY STAGE IN THE GAME WHERE OMGUSES AND "I VOTE HIM BECAUSE HE SMELLS BAD" VOTES ARE OKAY.

WHAT

THE

FUCK

CREEPS

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

Also I just realized

Why do you focus on "random votes" rather than the other people's "random votes"?

In post 92, MisaTange wrote:Is there even a game where two PRs had to claim in the same day)

Yes

Misa your all caps seems unnecessary

FOS: TF.

Yeah, but I'm using it to express just exactly how angry I am at Creeps's "RvS is random voting and therefore scummy!" reasoning, since quoting and commenting on the quote implies that you believe that action to be scummy.

@TF
You are producing a lot of IIoA and your posting is pretty stale, I don't see an effort to game solve.

I'm also a bit uncomfortable with having lynchbaity Creeps (not that lynchbait can't be scum but it's easy to mistake them for it when they are not and I believe him when he says that's how he comes off as town as well) at L-2 when players have not yet chimed in, I'll unvote if it reaches L-1.

In post 104, TwoFace wrote:Misa your all caps seems unnecessary

Ok? It's early and not much to work with.

In post 109, keyenpeydee wrote:

In post 104, TwoFace wrote:Misa your all caps seems unnecessary

Regarding this, If people feel uncomfortable for seeing an all caps post, Feel free to PM me about it and we can talk. I'll try to edit Misa's post.

I was actually referring to it being scummy as it wasn't necessary

I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.

Let's shake things up a bit...

VOTE: Misa

@TF
That's fair, but you seem to be focusing on the wrong things for someone that is supposedly trying to figure out if his neighbor is a communist (that is slang for looking for scum if someone is confused).

P-edit: aha, that's more interesting.

In post 112, ThinkBig wrote:I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.

Let's shake things up a bit...

VOTE: Misa

Why, and how is this shaking things up?

Also, Creeps is voting Misa. Does that change your reads?

In post 114, MortFeld wrote:

In post 112, ThinkBig wrote:I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.

Let's shake things up a bit...

VOTE: Misa

Why, and how is this shaking things up?

The current wagon seems to be mainly focusing on creeps. I feel uncomfortable, at this time, putting him at L-1.

Also, Creeps is voting Misa. Does that change your reads?

No. Both of these players are scummy IMO, though not sure how likely it is for them to both be scum.

In post 113, copper223 wrote:@TF
That's fair, but you seem to be focusing on the wrong things for someone that is supposedly trying to figure out if his neighbor is a communist (that is slang for looking for scum if someone is confused).

P-edit: aha, that's more interesting.

Thanks for your opinion.

There being a wagon on Creeps is not a reason to vote for Misa. I'm asking why you have a FOS on Misa, TB.

TwoFace, what is your impression of Creeps?

In post 119, MortFeld wrote:TwoFace, what is your impression of Creeps?

Don't really have one yet.

Don't remember if you did this in 1833. Might not be able to learn much since you were a mason in that game.

In post 100, MortFeld wrote:I don't see how reading Naomi will be difficult. The only actual oddities she's described in her own play are - tendency toward defensiveness regardless of alignment, and replacement of scum/town with red/green. How does that render her unreadable?

Personally I'm null on her right now but that's because of a lack of content, not because of her oddities. Saying she'll be difficult to read looks like a pre-excuse.

In post 99, Creeps20 wrote:

In post 85, MortFeld wrote:Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:

Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and

Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'

UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps

Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.

Referring to me or you?

In post 93, MortFeld wrote:It's not WIFOM. You voted Misa for a reason and I'm asking you to explain the reason.

The WIFOM is that scum wouldn't be voting him as that would give him away. But scum could take advantage of that. But scum might think town suspects that so won't do it.

Referring to Misa. Your logic is bad and you are also scummy.

I disagree that there is much WIFOM. I think scum are very unlikely, seeing their scum buddy do something, to call that exact thing scummy. Even if it is WIFOM, you are still voting based on one side of the WIFOM. It's a bad vote with your reasons.

To each his own I guess. I can't help but feel you're seriously underestimating how difficult it might be, especially to those who have never played with her or view being overly defensive as a scum tell.

In post 101, MisaTange wrote:IT'S RVS IT'S USED FOR PRESSURE AND IT'S USED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO POST AND ALSO TO THINK THEIR REASONING OUT BEFORE THEY POST AND TO PROMPT POSTS LIKE THIS 62. IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY STAGE IN THE GAME WHERE OMGUSES AND "I VOTE HIM BECAUSE HE SMELLS BAD" VOTES ARE OKAY.

WHAT

THE

FUCK

CREEPS

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

This feels like fake outrage.

Did what?

P.edit - I agree with you uzi about fake outrage

Refused to give any opinions, reads, possible alignment indicators. Basically just content. Coin flip gimmick is part of that.