Fro99er/Alisae's Large Normal

[Alisae]

For the town something Macho IC?

[Fro99er]

The rolecop being a full rolecop worries me a tiny bit if they hit the traitor then the cop. that would be like 2 guilties, plus the gunsmith can get a guilty or two. Could might nerf one of them and then adda mediocre town power to the "town something"

[Fro99er]

yah Macho IC works! was just thinking IC lol

[Alisae]

you could do a 1-shot gladiator for the lols

But that's not normal.

[Fro99er]

Mafia BP Traitor
Mafia 2-shot Cop
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Town Gunsmith
Town Jailkeeper
Town BP Enabler
Bulletproof townie
Town Rolecop
Town Macho IC
7 VT


then we just need to decide if we need to tone down rolecop/gunsmith and I think we're in good shape

pedit: god damn I wish I heart gladiators

[Fro99er]

ok this is the final setup submitted to reviewers for review

[Antihero]

The rolecop being a full rolecop worries me a tiny bit if they hit the traitor then the cop. that would be like 2 guilties, plus the gunsmith can get a guilty or two. Could might nerf one of them and then adda mediocre town power to the "town something"

if the rolecop/gunsmith has good enough reads to pull this off, more power to him

[RadiantCowbells]

I think this is fine

[mastina]

I think this is fine

(Would need to see role PMs and whatnot before a pass though.)

[Alisae]

Alisae will make Role Pms!
tomorrow...

[Fro99er]

Actually before we finish the role PMs I have a question

The jailkepeer can still jail the Macho IC, right? From what it looks like, Macho only doesn't allow protection from doctors and bodyguards: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Macho

if that's the case, maybe we change bulletproof townie to bulletproof bodyguard so that it can't protect the Macho IC, and Jailkeeper to roleblocker (and limit the roleblocker shots if necessary)

[Antihero]

i don't read that as only being limited to bg and doc. i'd still say a defensive jail on macho ic failing is normal.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, that's not a pass. I'm fine with the setup but obviously we need role pms and ruleset

[Fro99er]

ok cool...wasn't sure what normal rules stipulated there w.r.t. macho and jailkeeper since it wasn't explicitly laid out. We'll keep it and get to work on the PMs

Does the ruleset look ok?

[mastina]

Macho is ALL protectives regardless of type--rolestopper, jailkeeper, doctor, bodyguard. So yeah protection fails.

[Fro99er]

sweet, the wiki proabably needs updating w.r.t. the normal game part of macho.

[Fro99er]

anyway, i'm gonna work on the pm's tonight

[Fro99er]

PMs:

You are a Citizen You aren't special. You only have your voice and your vote.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Jailkeeper During the night, you may target one other person that is not yourself. If successful, they will be protected from all kills, but will also be roleblocked.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Bulletproof-Enabler You enable bulletproof roles to exist in this game. If you die, all bulletproof roles (if any exist) lose their bulletproof vest.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Gunsmith During the night, you may target one person. If successful, you will learn if they have a gun.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Rolecop During the night, you may target one person. You will learn their role. This may only be used twice per game.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Bulletproof Citizen You have a bulletproof vest that will protect you from kills.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Macho Innocent Child You cannot be protected. However, at any point during the game (day or night), you may PM the moderator to have your role revealed. When the moderator receives your PM requesting your role reveal, your whole role and role PM will immediately be revealed in the game thread.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

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You are a Bulletproof Traitor You know X, Y, Z to be mafia aligned, but your mafia identity is unknown to X, Y, Z . You also have a bulletproof vest that will protect you from kills. As a traitor: If you are the last surviving member of your team, you will be automatically endgamed. You may not submit any factional kills. You return "Not Town" to Cops, "No gun" to Gunsmiths, and "Traitor" to Rolecops. You do not have access to the main Mafia PT.

You win when your faction controls 50% of the votes. | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a 2-shot Cop You are aligned with X, Y who are Role X, Role Y . You may talk in your factional PT here at night. During the night, you may target one person. You will learn whether they are town aligned or not. This may only be used twice per game. You also know there is one Traitor in the game who you are aligned with.

You win when your faction controls 50% of the votes. | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

You are a Goon You are aligned with X, Y who are Role X, Role Y You may talk in your factional PT here at night. You also know there is one Traitor in the game who you are aligned with.

You win when your faction controls 50% of the votes. | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

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[Alisae]

You are a Macho Innocent Child You cannot be protected. Also, at any point during the game (day or night), you may PM the moderator to have your role revealed. When the moderator receives your PM requesting your role reveal, your whole role and role PM will immediately be revealed in the game thread.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated | Gamethread | Please send your Role Name as confirmation! And lastly, have fun!

This one looked wierd so I changed one word with little significance and spaced it out a bit.

[Fro99er]

Just realized daytalk is in the rules, but we didn't specify daytalk in this new setup. I tihnk we should still give the scumteam daytalk given there's a traitor

[Fro99er]

so are we good to go here?

[mastina]

You are a Rolecop
During the night, you may target one person. You will learn their role. This may only be used twice per game.

Is it full or is it two-shot? The setup I believe says full.

[Fro99er]

Ah yep, it's full. Just forgot to take off the two shot from the prior setup

[mastina]

Well we need to see the current version then.
Once I do though, good to go.

[Alisae]

Mafia BP Traitor
Mafia 2-shot Cop
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Town Gunsmith
Town Jailkeeper
Town BP Enabler
Bulletproof townie
Town Rolecop
Town Macho IC
7 VT

Mastina this is the current version I think