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In post 97, Firebringer wrote:

In post 96, hebichan wrote:I mean, so far all the girls who are unpaired and have spoken since have been in agreement, and most of the guys have been in disagreement.

That's how everyone of these kinds of games have played out.

Most girls play passive till they get bored and decide to finally make a choice.
Most guys try to get paired as soon as possible

I'm not saying play passive, in fact, I'm advocating the exact opposite, I am saying lets squeeze everyone for information.

Even if LLD agrees with our plan, she'll never play passively anyhow.

I'm saying girls have the number advantage here, lets use it to positively influence the game, especially since we have the confirmed town on our side.

I'm not sure how controlling pairs is a "passive" play.

I don't think I have seen this game type ever play out where couples didn't just choose themselves.

I have seen games where people say "don't pair with x" then someone pairs with x
Controlling pairs seems obnoxious play and unlikely to work.

In post 99, Cabd wrote:Hi my literally wife is in this game pretty damn sure we should be paired up because we can read each other pretty damn well. PS Niantic sucks Pokemon go festival was like dashcon.

do you think you'd be able to sort her in less than 6 days without a hood? (or more importantly can she sort you in that time)

like thats whats still puzzling me about everyone's obsession with hoods

i'm not opposed to pairs like p_a/cabd and dunn/maria where they can read each other well but i dont understand why a hood needs to be in the equation when we might have to lynch someone who's in that group anyway

pedit: i dont mind compromising and, say, having hebi vet the validity of a pairing rather than have her decide as a whole what the right thing to do. as long as we talk about it though

In post 101, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I have seen this game type ever play out where couples didn't just choose themselves.

I have seen games where people say "don't pair with x" then someone pairs with x
Controlling pairs seems obnoxious play and unlikely to work.

And you seem to be ignoring all of the active girls agreeing with it so far, and are being negative for the sake of it.

Obviously that approach you mention hasn't worked, town hasn't won. Let's try something new.

In post 103, hebichan wrote:And you seem to be ignoring all of the active girls agreeing with it so far, and are being negative for the sake of it.

Obviously that approach you mention hasn't worked, town hasn't won. Let's try something new.

Exactly this.
Lets just see what the other Lady's say first, and if all Lady's agree to it, what's the harm in attempting it?

In post 102, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:

In post 99, Cabd wrote:Hi my literally wife is in this game pretty damn sure we should be paired up because we can read each other pretty damn well. PS Niantic sucks Pokemon go festival was like dashcon.

do you think you'd be able to sort her in less than 6 days without a hood? (or more importantly can she sort you in that time)

like thats whats still puzzling me about everyone's obsession with hoods

i'm not opposed to pairs like p_a/cabd and dunn/maria where they can read each other well but i dont understand why a hood needs to be in the equation when we might have to lynch someone who's in that group anyway

pedit: i dont mind compromising and, say, having hebi vet the validity of a pairing rather than have her decide as a whole what the right thing to do. as long as we talk about it though

Yes. I do think so. And I think we will eventually obtain the right read on each other 100% odds. So if paired and one is scum it's nukabke from orbit. But she would never draw scum and break my heart. Or something.

Yeah ok, my initial gut feeling says that Cabd is scum here

In post 101, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I have seen this game type ever play out where couples didn't just choose themselves.

I have seen games where people say "don't pair with x" then someone pairs with x
Controlling pairs seems obnoxious play and unlikely to work.

Further thoughts on this. We have to get someone knocked off the island, its a free lynch. There's no benefit for town ignoring it.

In fact, I would like to call this passive-aggressive encouraging of ignoring the lynch a slight scum read.

In post 106, Vecna wrote:Yeah ok, my initial gut feeling says that Cabd is scum here

Welcome to the town stop may I take your order?

In post 99, Cabd wrote:Hi my literally wife is in this game pretty damn sure we should be paired up because we can read each other pretty damn well.

You're the one with the power to ask. It sounds like you're going to do this either way, why are you seeking approval?

In post 85, MariaR wrote:

In post 80, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 77, MariaR wrote:I prob shouldn't have said yes

What...?

In post 81, Dunnstral wrote:Take that back

I MEANT IT AS IN SAID YES RIGHT AWAY CAUSE IT WAS RUDE TYRTYRTEW SHEESH DUNN
Pedit: You know for a fact our pt is me questioning you every post don't you even start LOL

I mean, I appreciated the INSTANT approval

In post 108, MariaR wrote:

In post 106, Vecna wrote:Yeah ok, my initial gut feeling says that Cabd is scum here

Welcome to the town stop may I take your order?

Is this maria-dialect for approval or asking for clarification? (if the latter, hell-to-the-no, i cba)

In post 107, hebichan wrote:

In post 101, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I have seen this game type ever play out where couples didn't just choose themselves.

I have seen games where people say "don't pair with x" then someone pairs with x
Controlling pairs seems obnoxious play and unlikely to work.

Further thoughts on this. We have to get someone knocked off the island, its a free lynch. There's no benefit for town ignoring it.

In fact, I would like to call this passive-aggressive encouraging of ignoring the lynch a slight scum read.

Ummmmm I was just relating my experiences and telling you I don't think it's fun when the group makes all these simple decisions.

Also Giga is scum with hebichan

In post 98, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:

In post 70, Maxous wrote:Trying to control the pairings isn't gonna be helpful. It lets scum hide too much because they can't be held to account.
I'm vetoing this.

i don't really see what scum have to be held accountable to here - i think everyone in this table is more than capable of coming up with a narrative for why they want to pair up with whoever as scum that would make some degree of sense

what are you expecting to happen here?

Not necessarily.
Particularly if the person(s) they want happens to already be taken and they have to adjust.

In post 114, Maxous wrote:

In post 98, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:

In post 70, Maxous wrote:Trying to control the pairings isn't gonna be helpful. It lets scum hide too much because they can't be held to account.
I'm vetoing this.

i don't really see what scum have to be held accountable to here - i think everyone in this table is more than capable of coming up with a narrative for why they want to pair up with whoever as scum that would make some degree of sense

what are you expecting to happen here?

Not necessarily.
Particularly if the person(s) they want happens to already be taken and they have to adjust.

I don't understand this argument?

In post 113, Firebringer wrote:Also Giga is scum with hebichan

I'm literally confirmed town by mod.

In post 112, Firebringer wrote:

In post 107, hebichan wrote:

In post 101, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I have seen this game type ever play out where couples didn't just choose themselves.

I have seen games where people say "don't pair with x" then someone pairs with x
Controlling pairs seems obnoxious play and unlikely to work.

Further thoughts on this. We have to get someone knocked off the island, its a free lynch. There's no benefit for town ignoring it.

In fact, I would like to call this passive-aggressive encouraging of ignoring the lynch a slight scum read.

Ummmmm I was just relating my experiences and telling you I don't think it's fun when the group makes all these simple decisions.

This is literally our only chance to have a lynch without killing off two people, isn't a lynch always supposed to a group consensus?

Would you rather have a town member die because no one wanted to pair with them for no reason other than everyone else wanted their meta pair?

Pairing without reason will make sure that a town member dies this first round. If we decide who we pair with, we might only have 2 scum by the first dance. This isn't hard.

I think firebringer should adopt Transcend's avatar.

That way everytime he does a firebringer u can just go "ooooh thats a good boy"

I don't want to pair with Hebi because it gives scum a very easy nightkill target.
I don't want to pair with GBT because she can't read me and she knows it so it'll be very easy for someone else (scum) to persuade her to drop out of the dance if she's town.
I would be okay with pairing up with MariaR because I think that most of the time I can read her and she'd be less likely to drop out because other people told her to.
I don't want to pair with Shiro for various reasons that I don't feel like getting into.
I would be okay pairing with Penguin_Alien because I don't know them and it could be interesting but I'm pretty sure Cabd wants to pair with them (obviously.)
I feel like I will have no ability to read A2 in a hood so I want to avoid them.
I am reasonably comfortable in my ability to read LLD, I think she will also want to pair with me, we're sorta nk baity if we're both town but it keeps all the paranoia onto one slot, and I think it would be fun to pair with her in general.
I don't know Mint Berry Crunch.

So it's sorta

{LLD}
{Penguin/Maria}
{Mint/A2}
{Others}

for me

In post 119, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't want to pair with Hebi because it gives scum a very easy nightkill target.
I don't want to pair with GBT because she can't read me and she knows it so it'll be very easy for someone else (scum) to persuade her to drop out of the dance if she's town.
I would be okay with pairing up with MariaR because I think that most of the time I can read her and she'd be less likely to drop out because other people told her to.
I don't want to pair with Shiro for various reasons that I don't feel like getting into.
I would be okay pairing with Penguin_Alien because I don't know them and it could be interesting but I'm pretty sure Cabd wants to pair with them (obviously.)
I feel like I will have no ability to read A2 in a hood so I want to avoid them.
I am reasonably comfortable in my ability to read LLD, I think she will also want to pair with me, we're sorta nk baity if we're both town but it keeps all the paranoia onto one slot, and I think it would be fun to pair with her in general.
I don't know Mint Berry Crunch.

This is a nightless game, how would scum get a night kill?

@mint berry: TL;DR - Giga and Hebi are saying that scum are either gonna pair by meta( what Dunn and Maria did) or come up with well reasoned excuses for why they want to pair with someone, so there's no point in letting people choose themselves.
I don't necessarily agree it's gonna be that easy for scum.

Ahh, I missed that one line.... Goddamn it.

Whatever, I trust youwith LLD the most out of the guys anyhow? So. I am perfectly okay with you guys pairing.