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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:38 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 98, Thor665 wrote: In post 87, shortaru wrote: In post 84, Thor665 wrote:Sheeping Those in Charge. Think that's town.
Willing to buy BBmolla and Shotaru as town also.
People should sheep me.
If you're sheeping TiC, anyone else voting the player you're voting wouldn't, by definition, be sheeping you.
Also, do you really think
70 comes from scum?
I disagree with how you think sheeping works.
How do you see it not coming from scum exactly?
Maybe?
I'm sheeping him more due to my reads, I don't find your slot townish and I find him townish.
I will generally agree I find you a bit more involved already than I would expect from you being town, but that might also be early game excitement. Either way you're still a fine vote at this juncture.
What do you think of Shortaru defending you for pointing out something stated in the ruleset? Is he daft for buying that, or am I daft for considering it NaI?
I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
VOTE: shortaru
I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
by shortaru
It wasn't a push.
It was snark.
You thought that was a push? Seriously?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:45 pm
by shortaru
I thought you said 70 wasn't LAMIST? Along with the fact nobody after that said it was, I revised my opinion.
Is town supposed to stubbornly hang onto faulty assumptions? I'll have to work on that.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:59 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
Why did you feel the need to counterclaim?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 101, shortaru wrote:
It wasn't a push.
It was snark.
You thought that was a push? Seriously?
You defended your position, so I took it as a push.
In post 102, shortaru wrote:
I thought you said 70 wasn't LAMIST? Along with the fact nobody after that said it was, I revised my opinion.
Is town supposed to stubbornly hang onto faulty assumptions? I'll have to work on that.
I might have missed that revision.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:07 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.
In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:11 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:17 pm
by shortaru
I frequently feel the need to b/s in early game, due to my affinity for having fun.
Vanilla Townie counterclaim sounded like an obvious "lol he is joking around" kind of counterclaim, to me. Maybe I am wrong about that?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:19 pm
by shortaru
In post 97, shortaru wrote:Not really.
My point remains the same. Save your verbiage lawyering for someone who cares.
^ telling someone that takes something silly seriously to piss off isn't "defending my position".
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:21 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
I disagree with you, but am interested in hearing more about your scumread here.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:22 pm
by shortaru
In post 105, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote: In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.
In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
That wasn't what Thor was asking us to do, however.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:23 pm
by shortaru
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:25 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
In post 110, shortaru wrote: In post 105, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote: In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.
In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
That wasn't what Thor was asking us to do, however.
I don't find this a worthwhile argument to pursue, and like I said, that line mostly reads to me as though he is using his own authority to push the Gamma wagon.
And what would that reason be?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:28 pm
by shortaru
In post 112, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:I don't find this a worthwhile argument to pursue, and like I said, that line mostly reads to me as though he is using his own authority to push the Gamma wagon.
That's precisely why it's scummy.
He's using his authority to sell it, and if it does go through and Gamma flips green he can just say "I was sheeping TiC, guess he was wrong."
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:32 pm
by shortaru
It would be something that would not be a productive argument to get into with you
You either see it, or you don't. I'm not getting into an argument over something subjective because neither of us will convince the other.
If it was something I was scumreading him for, I'd be open to explaining why.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:41 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
In post 114, shortaru wrote:
It would be something that would not be a productive argument to get into with you
You either see it, or you don't. I'm not getting into an argument over something subjective because neither of us will convince the other.
If it was something I was scumreading him for, I'd be open to explaining why.
Why would it not be productive?
I had no intention of arguing with you when I asked you, and don't really know why you're automatically assuming I would. Mostly everything is subjective anyway, so...?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:51 pm
by shortaru
Do you really expect that to happen?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:55 pm
by Fuwa Fuwa Time
May I ask you where this is coming from?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:01 pm
by shortaru
If he didn't explain his townreads in his last large, I doubt he's going to be an open book here.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:02 pm
by ThoseInCharge
In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 98, Thor665 wrote: In post 87, shortaru wrote: In post 84, Thor665 wrote:Sheeping Those in Charge. Think that's town.
Willing to buy BBmolla and Shotaru as town also.
People should sheep me.
If you're sheeping TiC, anyone else voting the player you're voting wouldn't, by definition, be sheeping you.
Also, do you really think
70 comes from scum?
I disagree with how you think sheeping works.
How do you see it not coming from scum exactly?
Maybe?
I'm sheeping him more due to my reads, I don't find your slot townish and I find him townish.
I will generally agree I find you a bit more involved already than I would expect from you being town, but that might also be early game excitement. Either way you're still a fine vote at this juncture.
What do you think of Shortaru defending you for pointing out something stated in the ruleset? Is he daft for buying that, or am I daft for considering it NaI?
I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
VOTE: shortaru
I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
Ugh this post makes me want to keep my vote on Gamma
By the way, this vote puts Shortaru at L-2
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 pm
by shortaru
Nah, he's town.
I don't care about L-2.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 pm
by ThoseInCharge
Something is bugging me about Thor's entrance.
I'm also trying to evaluate FFT's intentions here.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 pm
by ThoseInCharge
Then please explain this.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 pm
by shortaru
What do you think of Thor low-key pushing Gamma to voting me in 98?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:07 pm
by shortaru