The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.
HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:06 pm
by EspressoPatronum
In post 100, EspressoPatronum wrote:HEAL: Gamma
The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.
HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
Oh whups, I tried using Sky's formatting for the Hurt + Heal thing but I also took the colour. EBWOP.
The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.
HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.
Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
@Gamma
Was people adding themselves to their own coalitions helpful and/or useful in that D1 town-win game?
Yes.
I have to admit, not really the answer I was expecting. Why, though?
In Skitter’s game, scum!Sky made it a point of objecting to be added to any coalition, in case it failed. The other scum in that game, Urist, I think it was, did make a coalition with him in it but then pretty much flaked afterwards.
In post 56, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Cool, this has finally started. I was in Skitter’s game and we actually won on D1, only to have RAS cheat us out of a much deserved win.
How did you get cheated out of the win?
Can you share with us some of the things town did well in that game that we can implement in this game?
RAS was scum IRL basically. Iow, he cheated.
Sure, we were really careful about who we put into the coalition and didn’t rush things. I had 2/3 scum right in that.
Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
My thinking on the Gamma read was this: as long as I believe their argument wasn't SvS, at least 1 of them is town. I agree that Gamma doesn't look
super
towny from the exchange, but he definitely looks more towny than LUV, meaning that he's more likely the town in a TvS scenario.
Regarding the defensiveness, I agree with Gamma. LUV's "no u" reaction wasn't helpful to anyone. In addition, I don't like LUV's answer to my question on why we shouldn't be discussing mechanics.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:57 am
by NC 39
In post 82, Spangled wrote:Aye, ‘tis null. Exactly. But Hectic, to me, was making out that it was scummy... and I disagreed... and told him so...
I imagine you try and call people out on things you disagree with — I like to do that too.
My initial reaction to this was "thats not why he's voting him!" but looking back he did say.
i can provide a few walls later if people doubt these reads
can I, without giving a long winded explanation of why these kinds of posts even made ironically throw me off and make me dislike the game, ask everyone who wants to win as town to not do this
A-fucking-men!
Still dislike that. It's buddying up to RC. Its clearly a joke and RC is being a bit of a whiney head but part of me can certainly understand how jokes can mess with one's head.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:12 am
by NC 39
In post 108, Clemency wrote:like, i'm usually the type to promote just 'playing the game', but coalition feels so mechanic-centric that i feel it's anti-town to try to avoid that
There's only 1 mechanic? pass an all town coalition. Am I missing something b/c this honestly doesn't sound like some big mechanic fest?
Still think Espresso is Town. Pretty sure RCMA is Town.
I personally don’t love Gamma’s posts about LUV but I don’t think they’re really scummy.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:44 am
by NC 39
I think you’re right about RCMA. I did an ISO check of both RCMA’s only scumgame, where nsg pretty much flaked and one of nsg’s more recent scumgames, where most of her posts were self-centered and defensive. She wasn’t trying to advance the game forward like she is here.
In post 10, Alchemist21 wrote:I think the Coalition should be the 5 strongest/Towniest players not just for the obvious reasons of the D1 wincon but also as a weak investigational tool if it fails - if the Coalition fails we know there’s a deep wolf in a group where we might not otherwise suspect scum to be.
my plan always has been and likely always will be to simply pass a coalition of the towniest players – reads above anything else. i fully intend to win day one and i don't believe that making any trade off for the contingency is worth giving up a higher probability of winning.
In post 108, Clemency wrote:like, i'm usually the type to promote just 'playing the game', but coalition feels so mechanic-centric that i feel it's anti-town to try to avoid that
There's only 1 mechanic? pass an all town coalition. Am I missing something b/c this honestly doesn't sound like some big mechanic fest?
i'm saying its central around this one mechanic that should be talked about
barring discussion about it is anti-town, from my perspective
The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.
HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.
Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
I like this question from Spangled HEAL: Spangled HEAL: Gamma Emerald as well now that I'm starting my coalition
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:56 am
by Hectic
In post 106, NC 39 wrote:In Skitter’s game, scum!Sky made it a point of objecting to be added to any coalition, in case it failed. The other scum in that game, Urist, I think it was, did make a coalition with him in it but then pretty much flaked afterwards.
isn't that massively anti-town? townie's are confirmed non-scum to themselves so why sacrifice a chance of winning the game D1 for fear of being scumread for being on a failed coalition? tell me he was scumread for that please
The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.
HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.
Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
what's a UTR? ultra townread?
still liking Espresso, not as sure on Spangled but i'll leave him for now
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:58 am
by Hectic
hmmm, that post is a little lazy but there was honestly nothing else I read that really sprung out as AI, i'll try again tomorrow