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In post 94, popsofctown wrote:

Did you actually use that chart to read mastina?
The point of the chart seemed to be to always townread mastina.
Seems like a broke clock is correct twice a day thing.

The flowchart is an accurate judge for my play in any given game. It outlines my fundamental core playstyle differences as town versus as scum. scumastina has traits which she cannot mask; scumastina has traits which, while they CAN be from me as town, are signatures of her scumgame; scumastina has traits which she cannot fundamentally manage to fake from town mastina's playbook; town mastina has traits which, while they CAN be from scumastina, are signatures of her towngame.

The flowchart lays them all out.

In any given game, town-mastina will not show 100% of her town indicators on the flowchart; in any given game, scumastina will not show 100% of her scum indicators on the flowchart; in any given game, town-mastina may show some of her scum indicators; in any given game, scumastina will probably show some of her town indicators which she can easily fake.

But BY AND LARGE. Taking in the flowchart as a whole.

It remains true to every game I've played for years. Following the flowchart would give an accurate and correct read on me. Yet to this date. It has only once been followed to actual success, when scumastina was caught red handed by someone who actually read it and was like, "hey mastina...your play this game looks an awful lot like what the flowchart says is your scumplay"--because sure enough, I was scum that game. (Still won it, but it took...a rather considerable amount of work, including nightkilling said person.)

The flowchart has never produced an incorrect townread on me, where people using the flowchart townread scumastina.
The flowchart has never produced an incorrect scumread on me, where people using the flowchart scumread me when I was town.
The flowchart has been a reliable tool for catching scumastina, and a reliable tool for pegging me as town, for years.

And I am very public and vocal about it. Telling people, "just use the flowchart", every game. Because it works.
And yet.
Almost nobody does.
The few who do find great success.
But most discard it on the basis of lolselfmeta.

Their discarding of it is their own loss tho because I mean...the flowchart works, it gives you my alignment, so if you're not using it because of your bias against lolselfmeta...your loss, mate, you're throwing a game you could've won by just following it.

In post 100, popsofctown wrote:

#822, which is only a white lie, so is arguably not a lie.
I remember 7 year old pops hearing a story in first grade about a bunny who stole lettuce from the garden but also additionally stole carrots from the garden and didn't volunteer the incriminating information in taking to her parents and so told a white lie.
I was very distraught that selectively not volunteering information could be considered a lie.

There's obviously a huge loss in value if Rakan and Ginngie are both town and you get spared as PR since you could confirm yourself town by other means, and the total amount of conftown would go higher if you got someone like Chemist1422 spared. I'm assuming that was an even bigger motivation than the motivations you revealed

I mean.
I basically was giving away every step of the way that I was the cop.

In post 94, popsofctown wrote:

Did you actually use that chart to read mastina?
The point of the chart seemed to be to always townread mastina.
Seems like a broke clock is correct twice a day thing.

i mean it’s a pretty fair chart and can say after many games and hydra, it’s not exaggerated or biased.

Its a tool, not a solution would be a great way to look at it

I mean... you were obvious town, sooo

Idk if you really need a flowchart to tell you that this game

In post 100, popsofctown wrote:

#822, which is only a white lie, so is arguably not a lie.
I remember 7 year old pops hearing a story in first grade about a bunny who stole lettuce from the garden but also additionally stole carrots from the garden and didn't volunteer the incriminating information in taking to her parents and so told a white lie.
I was very distraught that selectively not volunteering information could be considered a lie.

There's obviously a huge loss in value if Rakan and Ginngie are both town and you get spared as PR since you could confirm yourself town by other means, and the total amount of conftown would go higher if you got someone like Chemist1422 spared. I'm assuming that was an even bigger motivation than the motivations you revealed

Just read 101

Amazed you had to kill someone who scumread you

In post 104, chennisden wrote:I mean... you were obvious town, sooo

Hindsight is so accurate

Yeah hindsight is hindsight

Wow... so like I was right on every slot minus Nymph and I wasn't actively scumreading Xayah but I certainly wasn't townreading her

I love how I only push my bad reads

Sigh

To be fair your ISO had a fair bit of elements spotlighting and grilled Xayah defending Elements at some point so you did good.

Yeah i dont think we lose unless elements is somehow town... and I really doubt it.

It’s a slam dunk case if you can read

In post 89, Ginngie wrote:5 bucks chemist votes Oversoul because MS loves to throw

However, this doesn’t go away until the fat lady sings, she just humming rn

Hello yes I exist

Your idea is cool and definitely has potential, I will have to thonk about it a bit more. I don't really see how it benefits scum to get scum spared, though, and it also may have timing issues where two spared players will both hold out to see who the other shoots so they can shoot back if shot. Not sure what you intended the timing to be on that.

In post 954, Elements wrote:Every game I've played and where I've been set up for a mislynch it has been hard backed by the scum team because of a night kill them made specifically to incriminate me.

In post 963, Chemist1422 wrote:Honestly the thing that’s giving me the most pause is that Over seems to know exactly what to say

lol mastina gonna do a rant about paranoia in endgames

In post 121, popsofctown wrote:

I wish it was mastina in LyLo in the sense that I think she would lean heavily one direction but take a long time making sure and then I could write the game outcome flavor in advance.
I have no idea whether Chemist1422 is gonna throw or not.

Oh heavens no. I might've thrown out a troll vote, using vote tags, on Oversoul as a joke, but within a day or two, I'd have cast the real hurt vote on Elements. I've never seen someone be more obviously scum than Elements is here in this lylo.