In post 99, Jamelia wrote:First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:44 am
by january
In post 92, Suspicious wrote:@Jan I would have expected what Fancy did: unvoted, said why, and moved on with further questioning to examine players/the wagon. Bailey's post in comparison comes across as much more of a grandstanding moment to grab town credibility. Their reasoning for the unvote in the first place after being pressured was odd and I'm still waiting on clarification there.
understood, but I still FoS you mostly for calling Bailey out in #23 for an obviously random vote.
also, what exactly is wrong about trying to grab credibility? couldn't town try to be credible too?
-still seems like a perfectly normal action from Bailey, but maybe i'm missing something?
anyways, I have a habit of tunneling onto one person so i'll step back and read the other peeps
In post 72, tictac wrote:@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.
Get out of my head Charles etc.
@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.
@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.
@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?
To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town
How do you know suspicious is town? UNVOTE: VOTE: Jamelia
I already know you're scum. Confess to make it easier for your partner.
First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
Second, I don’t know if they’re town. I didn’t say that or imply that.
You have more experience than me. Tell me a time when a rushed RVS led to a scum lynch
The bolded sentence strongly implies that the suspicious wagon is a town wagon. Why am I wrong?
In post 99, Jamelia wrote:First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.
In post 72, tictac wrote:@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.
Get out of my head Charles etc.
@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.
@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.
@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?
To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town
How do you know suspicious is town? UNVOTE: VOTE: Jamelia
I already know you're scum. Confess to make it easier for your partner.
First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
Second, I don’t know if they’re town. I didn’t say that or imply that.
You have more experience than me. Tell me a time when a rushed RVS led to a scum lynch
The bolded sentence strongly implies that the suspicious wagon is a town wagon. Why am I wrong?
YOU ASKED ME in your question why scum!Zenith would want to rush an RVS. I told you why, from scum!Zenith’s perspective.
In post 92, Suspicious wrote:@Jan I would have expected what Fancy did: unvoted, said why, and moved on with further questioning to examine players/the wagon. Bailey's post in comparison comes across as much more of a grandstanding moment to grab town credibility. Their reasoning for the unvote in the first place after being pressured was odd and I'm still waiting on clarification there.
understood, but I still FoS you mostly for calling Bailey out in #23 for an obviously random vote.
also, what exactly is wrong about trying to grab credibility? couldn't town try to be credible too?
-still seems like a perfectly normal action from Bailey, but maybe i'm missing something?
anyways, I have a habit of tunneling onto one person so i'll step back and read the other peeps
There's a difference between gaining trust and going explicitly out of the way to make a show of building trust.
Yes, I admit it's not much to go on, but that's what I'm working with now. I want more content out of Bailey and Xen, and until then I don't feel like moving on.
In post 99, Jamelia wrote:First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.
So vote me.
Okay, let's no descend into vote-baiting. This is a one-way ticket to a mislynch on either side of the equation.
In post 78, Suspicious wrote:I'm still questioning and getting opinions. Like I said, these days being this long leave plenty of room to use votes to gain info. Right now, I'd like more out of Xen/Bailey/jan/Cee before moving forward.
You said voting gets info. You want more info from Bailey. So vote Bailey?
I'm waiting for them to offer answers. I don't mind having my vote sit for a time.
Fair enough.
Gun to my head you and tictac are town.
Scum are in: [Jammy/Vork/Ceejay] - > take note for end game.
Out of curiosity, do you townread zenith? Or are you just implying that there is just one scum in there?
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:56 am
by FancyPants
Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?
Why can't they both be scum?
Why can't neither be scum?
I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.
In post 78, Suspicious wrote:I'm still questioning and getting opinions. Like I said, these days being this long leave plenty of room to use votes to gain info. Right now, I'd like more out of Xen/Bailey/jan/Cee before moving forward.
You said voting gets info. You want more info from Bailey. So vote Bailey?
I'm waiting for them to offer answers. I don't mind having my vote sit for a time.
Fair enough.
Gun to my head you and tictac are town.
Scum are in: [Jammy/Vork/Ceejay] - > take note for end game.
Out of curiosity, do you townread zenith? Or are you just implying that there is just one scum in there?
Let's wait for Zenith to talk a bit before I answer this.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:57 am
by Jamelia
In post 110, FancyPants wrote:Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?
Why can't they both be scum?
Why can't neither be scum?
I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.
It could be any of those options.
I’ve explained my thought process.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:58 am
by Vorkuta
In post 107, Suspicious wrote:Okay, let's no descend into vote-baiting. This is a one-way ticket to a mislynch on either side of the equation.
vote..
But no- early on I like my votes either on proper wagons or on players who respond to votes as pressure.
Considering how increasingly nervous january is getting, I think I like it there to see where it would lead.
In post 99, Jamelia wrote:First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.
+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.
So vote me.
Okay, let's no descend into vote-baiting. This is a one-way ticket to a mislynch on either side of the equation.
Nah I'm far from a mis-lynch. If you think I'm scum vote for me.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:59 am
by january
weird take maybe but I feel like Zenith's silent vote on Suspicious at the beginning of the game is a town move because mafia would be more worried about justifying their vote somehow
but also I can't really see them silent voting as town either so I guess it's just something that doesn't make sense in general
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:00 am
by january
@Vorkuta what makes you think I'm nervous?
nice bait now you're making me sound nervous by asking >:-(
In post 110, FancyPants wrote:Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?
Why can't they both be scum?
Why can't neither be scum?
I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.
It could be any of those options.
I’ve explained my thought process.
OK so this is your position (correct me if I'm wrong) you think the most likely scenario here is that Zenith voted in hopes of a quick lynch?
town points
My position is that I voted for Zenith because I wanted to hear why they put Suspicious on L-1. To me, without any context, that decision was scummy.
I’m not answering more questions from you about this.
OK maybe Jammy isn't scum, it's probably the other two.
In post 110, FancyPants wrote:Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?
Why can't they both be scum?
Why can't neither be scum?
I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.
It could be any of those options.
I’ve explained my thought process.
OK so this is your position (correct me if I'm wrong) you think the most likely scenario here is that Zenith voted in hopes of a quick lynch?
town points
My position is that I voted for Zenith because I wanted to hear why they put Suspicious on L-1. To me, without any context, that decision was scummy.
I’m not answering more questions from you about this.
OK maybe Jammy isn't scum, it's probably the other two.
Why did you change my original quote? I never said “town points”.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:11 am
by FancyPants
Botched quote, I meant to say town points in my words.
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:17 am
by GeorgeBailey
Aight, fast moving thread imo. I really like this.
In post 45, tictac wrote:
@Balley I'd like yer answer to this as well.
Minimal experience, I have a lot of experience with ToS/ToL though. Completely different from this forum format. My first game was interesting, and it seems like every game plays out a new story. I love this lmao.
In post 34, Zenith wrote:
What's wrong with an early L-1?
If scum were on the wagon, would they be more likely to stay there? Or would they be more likely to unvote for potential town points?
FOS
@ Fancy and GeorgeBailey.
I feel like in a format like this, it would be super easy for someone to accidentally hammer. I believe keeping someone at L-2 would have been sufficient pressure, L-1 can cause people to
really
panic
In post 43, Suspicious wrote:
The reasoning behind not immediately unvoting was based on gauging the reactions of others I suppose? And then making the judgement call to back off when they did not. If I'm misinterpreting then let me know.
Er kinda. It was more to say "woah wtf,
who let this get to L-1
". I still think Zenith is a bit suspicious for letting it get to that. But reading his other posts, I think it was still more of a mistake.
UNVOTE: Zenith
In post 76, FancyPants wrote:
@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?
Err.. what? I would love a more concrete answer on why voted me.
All in all, I do agree with
Jamelia
. Don't get me wrong, I love how active you are @
FancyPants
(I really gotta step it up) but you're being super aggressive. (95) And I dont think a lot of good is coming from it. (Except the pressure on
January
. I liked that)
Vork
seems townlean, Suspicious is townlean from 78. Overall engagement is nice.
