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[Atarashi Hajimari]

Probably should've put the UVC on this post rather than the previous one but oh well

[Drew-Sta]

Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?

You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO. Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.

Your OMGUS vote is obvious. His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.

I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.

[Dolly Parton]

At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.

I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.

[Drew-Sta]

At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.

I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.

I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.

I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.

[Saladman27]

VC 1.1

Blurryface3189 (2) -

QuantumQuasar, Dolly Parton

DrippingGoofball (2) -

Red Panda, MisaTange

votato (2) -

Atarashi Hajimari, Fwesnid

eyestott (1) -

eyestott

Dolly Parton (1) -

gibus

gibus (1) -

Pickaxe Pete

QuantumQuasar (1) -

Blurryface3189

Atarashi Hajimari (1) -

votato

Not Voting (4) -

Blurryface3189, DrippingGoofball, Red Panda, Drew-Sta

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-05-11 01:08:44)

Game Notes

- Sorry for any confusion about day start and the late VC, when I unlocked the thread I decided to die on the bed for the next 48 hours.
- I modified the GIF rule as I don't mind GIFs being outside of spoilers.

[Dolly Parton]

At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.

I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.

I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.

I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.

For me it's easier to progress from a TR to SR if the evidence points in that direction. When I start with a scum read on someone, the paranoia never really leaves my thoughts on that player.

[Drew-Sta]

Yeah, that’s a fair call Dolly.

[Fwesnid]

Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?

You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO. Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.

Your OMGUS vote is obvious. His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.

I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.

Can you expand on how atarashi's vote was omgus, because for it being obvious I didn't see it?
I've found Atarashi's townreads quite reasonable. The dolly one is good and I would Imagine he has as good reasoning for the others, because there's been enough content from several people to give them a light townread.

[Red Panda]

I don't think I've every played with any of you.

Ill catch up on this later. Yes I know its 5 pages. I have a migraine

Side note: Goofball we played long long ago.

[votato]

You guys are probably right. I'll try to avoid tunneling on atarashi. Atarashi, could you do me a favor and explain all of your reads?

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

[votato]

VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

but why that wagon? ping.

[gibus]

VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

Yeah, that's a start.
VOTE: BlurryFace

[Blurryface3189]

I'd propose a counter-wagon.

VOTE: gibus

The other wagon would run over an innocent man.

[votato]

For a brief moment, they rose above the noxious cloud of RVS. The air was clear, they could see rainbows of meaningful content and game progression in the distance. But then a random wagon appeared and dragged them back down. Everyone was miserable.

[Dolly Parton]

Vaguely serious, but I can't say much without proper reason. But like I said, when I find telltale cues, I will revote.

VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

Yeah, that's a start.
VOTE: BlurryFace

What "telltale cues" made you revote?

[Dolly Parton]

I'd propose a counter-wagon.

VOTE: gibus

The other wagon would run over an innocent man.

I like the first 2 lines in this post.

Not to sure about the 3rd tbh.

[votato]

I'd propose a counter-wagon.

VOTE: gibus

The other wagon would run over an innocent man.

I like the first 2 lines in this post.

Not to sure about the 3rd tbh.

what was so good about the first two?
dont wagon me please! OMGUS!

[Dolly Parton]

I'd propose a counter-wagon.

VOTE: gibus

The other wagon would run over an innocent man.

I like the first 2 lines in this post.

Not to sure about the 3rd tbh.

what was so good about the first two?
dont wagon me please! OMGUS!

I think a counter wagon to blurry might be a good thing association-wise later down the road.
And gibus looks like the best option atm.

Maybe I'm just wanting some action. But I'm just wondering if gib v blurry could be panicking scum theater?

[Dolly Parton]

it's way too early for this talk. I've got to tread lightly or I'll send myself down a rabbit hole and won't be able to climb back out.

[Dolly Parton]

Aw. Screw it.

Just in case, I wouldn't mind some post-game props.

Blurry, Gib are 66.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666% of the red team.

[gibus]

Vaguely serious, but I can't say much without proper reason. But like I said, when I find telltale cues, I will revote.

VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

Yeah, that's a start.
VOTE: BlurryFace

What "telltale cues" made you revote?

None yet, but it doesn't look like the game is moving forward.

At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.

I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.

I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.

I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.

Since blurry has already made some mildly scummy posts, why not just join the wagon and see what he has to say about it?
Moreover, I have absolutely no reason to vote for you right now. You seem like an invaluable townie.

It's hard to find telltale cues in D1.

I'd propose a counter-wagon.

VOTE: gibus

The other wagon would run over an innocent man.

What makes you think I'm scum?

[votato]

has blurry made some mildly scummy posts? what were they?

[Blurryface3189]

Don't associate me with him, smh.

I only voted on him because he switched his vote off of Dolly to vote on me.

As for why I initially voted on QuantumQuasar, it was because he accused me first so early in the game at a point where i haven't spoken much; regardless, my vote on him was half-hearted, which was why i only pointed a finger at him in a message and didnt do the vote in a later message until people asked me why I didn't. I do not think he is scum, nor do I want to actually vote on someone who could be innocent.

Moreover, gibus too was randomly taking potshots at Dolly in the beginning. Atleast Quantum had a shred of reasoning for voting on me, while gibus didn't for Dolly. And re-emphasizing my vote, VOTE: gibus.

[votato]

Don't associate me with him, smh.

I only voted on him because he switched his vote off of Dolly to vote on me.

As for why I initially voted on QuantumQuasar, it was because he accused me first so early in the game at a point where i haven't spoken much; regardless, my vote on him was half-hearted, which was why i only pointed a finger at him in a message and didnt do the vote in a later message until people asked me why I didn't. I do not think he is scum, nor do I want to actually vote on someone who could be innocent.

Moreover, gibus too was randomly taking potshots at Dolly in the beginning. Atleast Quantum had a shred of reasoning for voting on me, while gibus didn't for Dolly. And re-emphasizing my vote, VOTE: gibus.

downvote.