Probably should've put the UVC on this post rather than the previous one but oh well
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:02 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 96, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?
You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO. Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.
Your OMGUS vote is obvious. His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.
I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:24 pm
by Dolly Parton
At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.
I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:28 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 102, Dolly Parton wrote:At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.
I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.
I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.
I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.
In post 102, Dolly Parton wrote:At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.
I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.
I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.
I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.
For me it's easier to progress from a TR to SR if the evidence points in that direction. When I start with a scum read on someone, the paranoia never really leaves my thoughts on that player.
In post 96, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?
You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO. Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.
Your OMGUS vote is obvious. His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.
I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.
Can you expand on how atarashi's vote was omgus, because for it being obvious I didn't see it?
I've found Atarashi's townreads quite reasonable. The dolly one is good and I would Imagine he has as good reasoning for the others, because there's been enough content from several people to give them a light townread.
For a brief moment, they rose above the noxious cloud of RVS. The air was clear, they could see rainbows of meaningful content and game progression in the distance. But then a random wagon appeared and dragged them back down. Everyone was miserable.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:06 am
by Dolly Parton
In post 97, gibus wrote:
Vaguely serious, but I can't say much without proper reason. But like I said, when I find telltale cues, I will revote.
None yet, but it doesn't look like the game is moving forward.
Drew-Sta wrote:
In post 102, Dolly Parton wrote:At this point there is nothing other than gut and other subjective reads. Until we get a flip, slip, claim etc, all cases are wishy-washy. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong though.
I usually also start games trying to town read people. If I latch on too tightly to a scum read in early game, I risk getting all locked up in confbias.
I agree with this mostly, but also think town reading tends to make you 'glaze' over things and gives you a soft conf-bias as well.
I try to use D1 to see what people have said and work out why they're saying it.
Since blurry has already made some mildly scummy posts, why not just join the wagon and see what he has to say about it?
Moreover, I have absolutely no reason to vote for you right now. You seem like an invaluable townie.
It's hard to find telltale cues in D1.
Blurryface3189 wrote:I'd propose a counter-wagon.
VOTE: gibus
The other wagon would run over an innocent man.
What makes you think I'm scum?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:27 am
by votato
has blurry made some mildly scummy posts? what were they?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:29 am
by Blurryface3189
Don't associate me with him, smh.
I only voted on him because he switched his vote off of Dolly to vote on me.
As for why I initially voted on QuantumQuasar, it was because he accused me first so early in the game at a point where i haven't spoken much; regardless, my vote on him was half-hearted, which was why i only pointed a finger at him in a message and didnt do the vote in a later message until people asked me why I didn't. I do not think he is scum, nor do I want to actually vote on someone who could be innocent.
Moreover, gibus too was randomly taking potshots at Dolly in the beginning. Atleast Quantum had a shred of reasoning for voting on me, while gibus didn't for Dolly. And re-emphasizing my vote, VOTE: gibus.
I only voted on him because he switched his vote off of Dolly to vote on me.
As for why I initially voted on QuantumQuasar, it was because he accused me first so early in the game at a point where i haven't spoken much; regardless, my vote on him was half-hearted, which was why i only pointed a finger at him in a message and didnt do the vote in a later message until people asked me why I didn't. I do not think he is scum, nor do I want to actually vote on someone who could be innocent.
Moreover, gibus too was randomly taking potshots at Dolly in the beginning. Atleast Quantum had a shred of reasoning for voting on me, while gibus didn't for Dolly. And re-emphasizing my vote, VOTE: gibus.