Mini Theme 2172: Great Idea Mafia - Game Over

[shellyc]

well gravedigger is technically like a pr right and like somewhat conftown. Why would they out just like that? idk it doesn't make sense to me bc if they out, scums r just gonna kill him ... right?

gravedigger is negative utility, it shows red to trackers and watchers, it's like a trackwatch miller

[shellyc]

^ PAGETOP

[EchoVision]

npom who’s scum

[Noraa]

shelly didn't I play the ~confused~ card hard in doggos tho? :3

the key is tone. this is proooobably your first ever theme or something

see the reactions towards me giving you a gut-TR, it's trying to doubt me / point out logical flaws. scum upon TR'd doesnt do that

not my first theme. mmm I could see why the second point applies though I'm not too sure what scum me would've done upon entering. I'm certain if I was scum, I would've already bombarded my partners with questions. Besides that I'm not sure what I'd have done.

sigh FOR THE NEWBIES

site meta = miller/ascetic/ negative utility town roles claim d1

why?

[shellyc]

echo whos scum

listen im gunna drop a solve next page, this game is very close to solved tbh

titus is town as well. engagement with noraa seemed like solving when scum!titus could just wagon on renny

[shellyc]

why?

imagine this

There is a miller and the cop. miller does not hardclaim
d3 cop checks miller returns red
miller claims, but red check from cop = elim either way so miller gets limmed

imagine in another game cop checks scum returns red
the scum claims miller and doesnt get elimd

miller hardclaim = 1. cop checks are 100% ACCURATE 2. cop no need to waste on miller

[shellyc]

now swap miller for gravedigger and cop for tracker and it's the same

[Noraa]

Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/

[Noraa]

why?

imagine this

There is a miller and the cop. miller does not hardclaim
d3 cop checks miller returns red
miller claims, but red check from cop = elim either way so miller gets limmed

imagine in another game cop checks scum returns red
the scum claims miller and doesnt get elimd

miller hardclaim = 1. cop checks are 100% ACCURATE 2. cop no need to waste on miller

makes sense

[shellyc]

Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/

this is very wifomy and I can improve at being town

[Rannygazoo]

Your avatars are so similar that it’s hard to tell you apart on mobile. Glad you got that sorted out though.

So how does scum claiming miller on d1 factor into the site meta?

[shellyc]

So how does scum claiming miller on d1 factor into the site meta?

scum can do it but 1) it's subject to counterclaims and 2) this is great idea and there are like 2 gravedigger cards

[Rannygazoo]

The odds of both of them rolling are very low.

That’s not saying I don’t believe NPOM. It just seems like that meta doesn’t really work in open games like this.

[redcardinal]

it also prevents flexibility for claims later so it's a bad scum move

[Assemblerotws]

well gravedigger is technically like a pr right and like somewhat conftown. Why would they out just like that? idk it doesn't make sense to me bc if they out, scums r just gonna kill him ... right?

The only power it has is to create false investigative results, so there's no point in scum killing them.
UNVOTE: Noraa

[shellyc]

hey assemble, why that unvote? do you concur with my gut townpings?

[Noraa]

hey assemble, why that unvote? do you concur with my gut townpings?

was wondering this as well

not only are our prfpcs similar, our thought processes r similar. Lel that'll hurt Shellys pride to know she's being compared to the worst mafia player ever

[shellyc]

nahhhh you’re not a discussion mod how are you the worst?

town!me is lacking though - im godawful at obvtowning but I usually have decent reads and charisma

[Titus]

How do you have charisma but can't obvtown? The less someone obvtowns the harder persuasion/manipulation is.

[shellyc]

i mean in general tbh (as both alignments) im pretty good at persuasion, but my inability to obvtown weakens that as the town alignment

[NoPowerOverMe]

npom who’s scum

It's the beginning of day one how would I know?

[EchoVision]

echo whos scum

listen im gunna drop a solve next page, this game is very close to solved tbh

titus is town as well. engagement with noraa seemed like solving when scum!titus could just wagon on renny

ico and arachnids are a team; they're posting in their private topic right now instead of in the actual thread
they wanna make that fashionably late entrance but they can't decide who shows up first
whoever shows up first has to bring the alcohol

VOTE: ico

[EchoVision]

Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/

let's rock her shit then

[EchoVision]

Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/

this is very wifomy and I can improve at being town

meh response
noraa you tryna rock this shit or do you wanna rock ico's shit with me since he's not even here yet
or the other person who's name i can't even remember
it starts with an a

[EchoVision]

So how does scum claiming miller on d1 factor into the site meta?

scum can do it but 1) it's subject to counterclaims and 2) this is great idea and there are like 2 gravedigger cards

there could be two gravediggers tho, granted ones town aligned ones ww aligned but still
cc-ing would be hard here

wym by number 2