my role pm was exactly what flipped in thread, said I appear to investigates as a dog, I asked for clarification on cats/dogs but was told only to check the posted role PMs :/
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:03 am
by Thestatusquo
You asked me if cats and dogs are the scum, which is obviously information I can't give you in a closed setup.
You then asked if you were a VT and I told you to compare your PM to the sample VT pm if you were not sure if you were a VT.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:05 am
by Thestatusquo
I'm guessing this is just a lack of experience thing.
If anyone who has played a bunch of mafia got your PM they would immediately think "I'm a miller" because that's clearly a miller PM. You didn't have that thought just because you're not as experienced with these things.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:09 am
by Andante
Yeah, I'm used to miller thinking they're VT and not even knowing they're miller, so I guess I could've looked more into it, oh well, saw no action, then didn't really care about my role, tbh thread probably would've gotten funny with me just claiming dog and thinking nothing of it
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:10 am
by Thestatusquo
fwiw in the future generally it is considered optimal play to claim miller day 1 if you get it.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:26 am
by Jingle
The funny part to me is that we reworded that PM because I was worried it wasn't obvious enough it was a miller.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:29 am
by Thestatusquo
Yeah originally the wording was "Being a werewolf subjects you to prejudice and the rest of the town is naturally suspicious of you."
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:45 am
by Thestatusquo
Its possible we could have been even more clear and said something like "investigative roles will see you as a dog" but honestly I think the PM is already pretty clear.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:38 am
by Thestatusquo
Please welcome firebringer and dwlee99
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:40 am
by NorwegianboyEE
No.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:41 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Dog scum ain’t welcome.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:43 am
by Dwlee99
Bruh what even happened last night.
Was I killed because they thought I was town or cause they thought I was a dog? Guess this is one way to force myself to do my final.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:46 am
by Dwlee99
Spoiler:
Three scum factions? Was really not expecting that. (Especially because we were pretty explicitly given that the cats existed)
So Kdowns is a scum role that investigates for dogs? I'm just taking your wording of 'trade' as in he's a cat himself or something
I also think town played that pretty badly, especially in multiball circumstances
Spoiler: kdowns
No he's town, though there is also a cat dog cop who ALSO investigated andante last night, which gives more credence to the idea that her day 1 play left much to be desired given role.
Spoiler: setup stuff
So I'm guessing the cats have less members than the dogs?
So Kdowns is a scum role that investigates for dogs? I'm just taking your wording of 'trade' as in he's a cat himself or something
I also think town played that pretty badly, especially in multiball circumstances
Spoiler: kdowns
No he's town, though there is also a cat dog cop who ALSO investigated andante last night, which gives more credence to the idea that her day 1 play left much to be desired given role.
Spoiler: setup stuff
So I'm guessing the cats have less members than the dogs?
Spoiler: discussion of the scum factions in the game
There are three scum factions. 4 dogs with no abilities. 3 cats with a dog cop. 2 rats with a cat cop and a 1 shot factional bullet proof.
Spoiler: discussion of the setup inspiration do not read if you do not want to be very spoiled
This setup was inspired by pirates vs ninjas which was a setup run by Mr. Stoofer roughly 70000 years ago and it takes the same premise of 2 main scum factions and a third which is not hinted at by the flavor of the setup. Similarly the setup attempts to misdirect the players into thinking there are 2 scum factions without ever explicitly saying so
Spoiler: discussion of the scum factions in the game
There are three scum factions. 4 dogs with no abilities. 3 cats with a dog cop. 2 rats with a cat cop and a 1 shot factional bullet proof.
Spoiler:
I really like this idea Did the cats know about the rats?
Spoiler:
Nope. The rats are the only ones who know rats are in the game. Though they are a bit paranoid about lizards being a thing in their PT. Lizards are not a thing.
[spoiler="game play speculation with role hint]Farkran is basically claiming in that last post for anyone paying enough attention.[/spoiler]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 7:59 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Honestly i get why i got wagoned so easily now.
There are not just 1, but 2 opportunistic scum factions looking for my death and an ez mislim to pile on.
Did the cats know about the rats?