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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:59 pm
by KorVex
In post 98, House wrote: In post 94, KorVex wrote:I mean, I don't really care about rolling scum. I'm using the two stumps as players I don't wanna have to sort if I roll town, and players who I'd have to nk if I rolled scum.
I've already stated I will submit vigilante mason though.
~ Kori
In post 58, Jingle wrote:
A role that is normal like but belongs to two players (a masonry with a shared vig shot, for example) is not a single normal role and is thus not an eligible submission.
Vigilante Mason is one role, with two separate powers.
The first power is the vigilante shot.
The second power is the masonry.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:59 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:01 pm
by KorVex
Yea, but the stump only gets one role to submit, and that'd require the second stump to submit mason backup vigi, when Jingle has already said he'd add a second mason just to make the role not useless.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:02 pm
by KorVex
All unsigned posts thus far have been Kori, btw
~ Kori
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:03 pm
by House
Okie.
What does everyone else think? Since roles aren't assigned yet, I think this is a great opportunity to collaborate on the roles for the tree stumps to submit
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:04 pm
by KorVex
I still think vigilante mason is really powerful, because it removes the aspect of a vigilante shot being on town, because now you have *two* people thinking about it, on top of the treestumps knowing about the vigilante shot, and able to direct it accordingly
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:04 pm
by KorVex
I'm just not gonna sign any posts anymore, because it should be obvious when Vex or I is speaking.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:06 pm
by KorVex
In post 104, House wrote:Okie.
What does everyone else think? Since roles aren't assigned yet, I think this is a great opportunity to collaborate on the roles for the tree stumps to submit
The only problem I see with this however is that scum know what to be looking for in terms of crumbs, and then scum know more or less the exact setup.
I'm only sharing one of my ideas for a pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:07 pm
by House
Another great combo is Weak Hider + Doctor
Hider claims d1 and announces his target before night, doctor stays hidden and protects the target.
Follow the cop.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:09 pm
by House
In post 107, KorVex wrote: In post 104, House wrote:Okie.
What does everyone else think? Since roles aren't assigned yet, I think this is a great opportunity to collaborate on the roles for the tree stumps to submit
The only problem I see with this however is that scum know what to be looking for in terms of crumbs, and then scum know more or less the exact setup.
I'm only sharing one of my ideas for a pick.
No different from any open setup, really.
If the roles are sufficiently strong, scum knowing what they are isn't much of a benefit.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:09 pm
by KorVex
Yea, but we don't know what the scum have in return.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:10 pm
by KorVex
The entire thing is that scum know exactly what they're looking for, but we don't know what we're looking for.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
keep in mind scum are gonna be given roles to counter whatever is submitted
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:11 pm
by House
In the case of the setup I mentioned, it doesn't really matter what they have.
Scum can't play with Hider results, and Hider can't be killed unless it targets non-town.
Then we lynch the scum.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I can think of like, 2 counters for Weak Hider + Doctor, and there's probably more
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:17 pm
by KorVex
pretty sure a strongman targeting a hider just kills them
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:17 pm
by KorVex
the only role i know that a strongman doesnt kill is a commuter, but that's by virtue of the role
~vv
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:19 pm
by KorVex
nvm, it says so on the wiki:
A Strongman cannot be stopped from performing a kill, unless their target has commuted.
~vv
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:19 pm
by House
Maybe with a d1 claim, but not after they have a couple nights of results crumbed.
Then they're stuck playing catch up with their NK's.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:19 pm
by DrippingGoofball
As tree stump, I can run the scumputer ALL GAME LONG!!!!!
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:20 pm
by House
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:20 pm
by Not_Mafia
Alternative, we make town very low powered so scum becomes low powered
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:21 pm
by Not_Mafia
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:21 pm
by KorVex
ok, wiki actually gives conflicting information.
@mod will a strongman targeting a hider who is hiding kill them, or does the kill fail?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:21 pm
by House