In post 69, T3 wrote:By the way, anyone who claims a type of Modified Rolecop is confirmed town. This information I have from somewhere that I will not elaborate on furter.
In post 75, T3 wrote:VOTE: titus
Serious vote. This seems like an overreaction to a naked vote.
VOTE: T3
I like Galron as town.
Asking why someone voted when they OMGUSed is perfectly reasonable.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:14 am
by MURDERCAT
Goofball, nom, T3, and Toog all feel townie to me at the moment
Slight pings from Titus, xlos, and slimer
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:15 am
by Titus
@T3, I am a modified rolecop too. That means if the mod modifies my role pm, I am a rolecop.
In post 94, nomnomnom wrote:also dgb's point is not good, scums are given fakeclaims and there's a sample town rolecard as well in the OP so this is not a good push
I'm more interested about how the game started with these weird flavor posts though, this is a weird rvs
Town read, I don't think mafia would point this out since it completely undermines Goofball's reasoning against me. And we're still in rvs cause math is kind of entertaining to talk about
In post 92, Almost50 wrote:@DGB: AGAIN, how I interpreted his post was "I
presume
the mod decided to do so and so, although it is not explicitly mentioned in the PM". I thought that might be some kind of role fishing, so I ignored it. He didn't say that
it is
mentioned in the Role PM though, as then he wouldn't have needed to explain it in details the way he did.
My guess is the scum team got one role from each of the "presumed" categories, and Xlos thus assumed one PR and one VT from each (or something like that) so it still would have benefited Scum to know that kind of info to plan their pushes and NKs.
Right, it's not in the role PM, but my role is a technique in analysis, so I assume that all roles are techniques in analysis, algebra or geometry. From this, you can deduce your role location. I was actually thinking that the scum team would have random 'guessing' techniques that weren't from these categories, like using OEIS (https://oeis.org/A002219) to figure out what a sequence is given the first few terms. Anyways, in the case you mentioned, it definitely benefits town more than mafia to know about all roles: it gives a really strong deductive power - if one scum is annihilated, then we immediately get a bunch of confirmed town, and scum are basically done for immediately. So if it is true, then town definitely benefits from everyone making this claim. If it's false, we still benefit since we get some information based on where people decide to claim that we can use later. The only case that this is bad for us is if it's false AND there is some role that depends on where you are from. But this seems extremely unlikely - it means that Ircher thought about the locations, made roles and flavor about them, and then made the flavor wrong. So before you guys decide if you want to annihilate me, you should convince yourself that the idea I proposed is actually bad for town. Cause I can't see it.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:52 am
by Almost50
OK, I'll play: Calculus
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:52 am
by Almost50
@Xlos: Now please keep me updated as to what you get/deduce from this.
In post 94, nomnomnom wrote:also dgb's point is not good, scums are given fakeclaims and there's a sample town rolecard as well in the OP so this is not a good push
I'm more interested about how the game started with these weird flavor posts though, this is a weird rvs
Town read, I don't think mafia would point this out since it completely undermines Goofball's reasoning against me. And we're still in rvs cause math is kind of entertaining to talk about
In post 92, Almost50 wrote:@DGB: AGAIN, how I interpreted his post was "I
presume
the mod decided to do so and so, although it is not explicitly mentioned in the PM". I thought that might be some kind of role fishing, so I ignored it. He didn't say that
it is
mentioned in the Role PM though, as then he wouldn't have needed to explain it in details the way he did.
My guess is the scum team got one role from each of the "presumed" categories, and Xlos thus assumed one PR and one VT from each (or something like that) so it still would have benefited Scum to know that kind of info to plan their pushes and NKs.
Right, it's not in the role PM, but my role is a technique in analysis, so I assume that all roles are techniques in analysis, algebra or geometry. From this, you can deduce your role location. I was actually thinking that the scum team would have random 'guessing' techniques that weren't from these categories, like using OEIS (https://oeis.org/A002219) to figure out what a sequence is given the first few terms. Anyways, in the case you mentioned, it definitely benefits town more than mafia to know about all roles: it gives a really strong deductive power - if one scum is annihilated, then we immediately get a bunch of confirmed town, and scum are basically done for immediately. So if it is true, then town definitely benefits from everyone making this claim. If it's false, we still benefit since we get some information based on where people decide to claim that we can use later. The only case that this is bad for us is if it's false AND there is some role that depends on where you are from. But this seems extremely unlikely - it means that Ircher thought about the locations, made roles and flavor about them, and then made the flavor wrong. So before you guys decide if you want to annihilate me, you should convince yourself that the idea I proposed is actually bad for town. Cause I can't see it.
This is indeed the slowest start of a game I've been in for the past 6 months. I'll blame it on the weekend and hope that it becomes a bit more active in the next 48 hours.
Also: Umlaut, Murdercat & nom have one scumster between them. I don't think it's nom but I can't guarantee it either.
