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IDK what to make of Margot and Astra

In post 101, T3 wrote:IDK what to make of Margot and Astra

Is the fact that Astra is voting LQ not a factor for you?

Haaaaang on. It's just occurred to me that if we are dealing with an Mafia rolecop, and we have a tracker, outing tracker d1 will totally negate that role, as mafia rolecop can just block them for the rest of the game??

I'm back on T3 lol

VOTE: T3

At least wait till D2 so we can get the first tell. Risk isn't worth it

Rolecop can't block the tracker.

I think this is a townslip

I mean roleblocker

It's not a slip. I'm trying to imagine what you'd do if you were mafia

Reads update:
Roden - Slight town lean for 72 and 75, as he feels genuinely annoyed about how scum keep getting away with things, and in the case of the latter post, that shows that he is willing to accept other perspectives instead of just tunnelling.

Margot - Has trended downwards since the beginning, mainly because, since stating that she had an "Absolutely scum read on T3" in 53 (if you'll pardon the grammar mistake), she has kept walking it back (56 "I'm not saying T3 is definitely scum.", 88, 96). Her recent mixup is a counterpoint, but it feels like as soon as Clasko posted 55, she realised that her T3 push would not be as viable as she thought.

Quickety - 69 is mildly pinging me because it feels like the last two lines were slapped on just so that the post wouldn't be a one-liner. There's also 47, but that one feels more thonk-y/weird than actually scummy.

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I would be interested in seeing if Alstro or Clasko have anything to add currently.

In post 111, Egix96 wrote:Margot - Has trended downwards since the beginning, mainly because, since stating that she had an "Absolutely scum read on T3" in 53 (if you'll pardon the grammar mistake), she has kept walking it back (56 "I'm not saying T3 is definitely scum.", 88, 96). Her recent mixup is a counterpoint, but it feels like as soon as Clasko posted 55, she realised that her T3 push would not be as viable as she thought.

Grammar excused lol. And what you're watching is someone trying to grapple with whether or not something being presented as site meta, but initially flagged in her mind as scum behaviour, was actually scummy or not.

In post 108, T3 wrote:I think this is a townslip

LAME EXEUCSE TO TR SOMEONE!!

In post 62, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 51, Clasko wrote:@Hockey if you seriously meant to combine Cringe + Chimchar to make a new word then I'm legit lowkey mad at you but I appreciate the word play.

wut

Never mind, must have been a typo.

Some initial reads coming soon~

So, from most sus to most town as of this moment from my POV:

Hockey's #24 pinged me as scummy. It felt like he took the low-hanging fruit and saw something that could be perceived as scum/anti-town (when T3 posted) and used it to his benefit to get a strong start in the game by telling the village how scummy it could be, granted it was towards RVS, and they turned this around in #62, giving their reason for a TR, but I echo Turtwig's sentiment that it's something T3's able to do as either alignment and shouldn't be perceived as towny/scummy. More recently Hockey calls T3 a town lean but hasn't even changed his vote on him yet, so he's either lacking conviction, not immediately bothered about scum-hunting, or just plain forgot to change his vote - which is it?

(I'm temporarily nicknaming alstromerial to Turtwig, if they're okay with this due to them having a similar-sounding name to Astra)
I need slightly more data on Turtwig and Astra to formulate a read, but moreso from Turtwig than Astra as she has placed a non-RVS vote down.

Nothing immediately alignment-indicative has come from Egix yet, and the 'vibes' post on Hockey was a bit 'meh', but they're making an effort with their recent reads and are looking at alternate angles for them that weren't immediately obvious to me.

T3: I'm willing to see how this slot plays out. I'm not prepared to close the door to a T3 D1 elimination. It feels like they're townlocking whomever townreads them at this point, which honestly just puts my back up. It's difficult to discuss this slot due to PR shenanigans.

I think Roden townlocking T3 on a mere whim is a weird move. I think Roden knows better than that, given T3's eccentric plays, and I want to err on the side of Roden trying to bait reactions with it as town than scum. I agree with Rosa's #98 that Roden/T3 is an unlikely scum pairing. I want to see this slot do things other than associating with T3, because him saying "Scum will have a bad time D2" (or something to that effect), as if he couldn't be scum himself, doesn't sit well with me at all.

Margot is coming off as slightly town with her approach to the game. There's this consensus in some games that people who do scummy things in the game be sus, when this isn't always the case, and they try to view/play the games as logically as possible. I'm willing to categorise her as town lean for now. Her back-and-forth on whether T3 is scum isn't pinging me, and I'm tempted to say scum don't want to seem inconsistent with their scum read by being, is he, or isn't he, about it. Additionally, refusing T3's townslip (when she could have stayed silent by not correcting him and use it to further cement her own position as town) gives me townvibes.

I liked LQ's sorting of my slot and Hockey's, given the town is in low info state and at a slow pace, where scum may want to keep all of their options open. I'm mainly drawing from my own experiences when I gave less-than-stellar reads at the beginning of my first game to get a feel for slots and move the game forward.

To conclude I'll keep my vote on Turtwig whilst pointing my FoS on Hockey but keep in mind these are just initial thoughts as of rn.

In post 115, Clasko wrote:So, from most sus to most town as of this moment from my POV:

Hockey's #24 pinged me as scummy. It felt like he took the low-hanging fruit and saw something that could be perceived as scum/anti-town (when T3 posted) and used it to his benefit to get a strong start in the game by telling the village how scummy it could be, granted it was towards RVS, and they turned this around in #62, giving their reason for a TR, but I echo Turtwig's sentiment that it's something T3's able to do as either alignment and shouldn't be perceived as towny/scummy. More recently Hockey calls T3 a town lean but hasn't even changed his vote on him yet, so he's either lacking conviction, not immediately bothered about scum-hunting, or just plain forgot to change his vote - which is it?

T3's reasoning for getting tracker to out was bad, and I still dont agree with him, but at that point, i thought he was town because he was bringing too much attention to himself imo.

About at vote uhhh, I kinda forgot to unvote someone lol

UNVOTE:

Oof.