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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:47 am
by Greeting
In post 96, catboi wrote: In post 94, Greeting wrote: In post 90, catboi wrote:
This is incorrect on multiple counts (the voting for expert does not only count town votes, that would be straightforwardly gamebreaking for obvious reasons. The number of experts selected on night 1 is 8, not 4)
A for effort though.
HEAL: Greeting
for functional purposes I will equate this to a townread, there may be more practical considerations on who to nominate for an expert but those can come later.
The rules say that:
In post 2, Datisi wrote:each bomb defusal will consist of one bomb defuser
(selected by the mafia)
, and 4-2 bomb experts
(selected by the town)
.
I would encourage you to read slightly more critically:
In post 2, Datisi wrote:the needed number of players who at that moment have the most nominations will be the night's bomb experts.
This doesn't contradict what I quoted.
If we consider the fact that bomb experts are selected
, then the logical conclusion is that "the most nominations" refers to town nominations.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:53 am
by catboi
It is incredibly dumb to think a mechanic would be designed in which the votes of scum do not count, you will be proven wrong whenever this is clarified. I will not engage in further discussion on this subject.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:53 am
by Titus
But it's fun.
Seriously Frog's town and your vote is bad.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:55 am
by Titus
Greeting's town but I'm not voting him for expert atm.
Town votes are the collective. It would make no sense not to include scum as they could be PoEd that way.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
by Cephrir
HEAL: Greeting for being aggressively wrong.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:03 am
by Greeting
In post 101, catboi wrote:It is incredibly dumb to think a mechanic would be designed in which the votes of scum do not count, you will be proven wrong whenever this is clarified. I will not engage in further discussion on this subject.
You're being unnecessarily rude and snooty for no valid reason. Sorry for... reading the rules of the game?
I'm in a good mood today, so I'll just choose to ignore it.
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@Datisi
, sorry to bother you yet again, but the rules state that town chooses the bomb experts. Is this a mistake? If not, then what happens when a scum nominates someone?
And one last question, what happens if there is a tie amongst players nominated to be bomb experts and there is more ties than spots? For instance, 5 players are tied and 4 experts are chosen.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:09 am
by Datisi
In post 105, Greeting wrote:@Datisi
, sorry to bother you yet again, but the rules state that town chooses the bomb experts. Is this a mistake? If not, then what happens when a scum nominates someone?
And one last question, what happens if there is a tie amongst players nominated to be bomb experts and there is more ties than spots? For instance, 5 players are tied and 4 experts are chosen.
it is not a mistake. the word "town" in that sentence refers to the collective of players, and every single player's nomination vote will be counted, regardless of their alignment.
if there are ties amongst the players nominated, they are broken by seniority; i.e. the players that got to that number of nominations first will be the experts. if, for any reason, that method of tie-breaking is not applicable, the mafia will be able to privately choose the bomb experts.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:14 am
by Greeting
In post 106, Datisi wrote: In post 105, Greeting wrote:@Datisi
, sorry to bother you yet again, but the rules state that town chooses the bomb experts. Is this a mistake? If not, then what happens when a scum nominates someone?
And one last question, what happens if there is a tie amongst players nominated to be bomb experts and there is more ties than spots? For instance, 5 players are tied and 4 experts are chosen.
it is not a mistake. the word "town" in that sentence refers to the collective of players, and every single player's nomination vote will be counted, regardless of their alignment.
if there are ties amongst the players nominated, they are broken by seniority; i.e. the players that got to that number of nominations first will be the experts. if, for any reason, that method of tie-breaking is not applicable, the mafia will be able to privately choose the bomb experts.
Okay, thanks. I didn't know that "town" is not referring to an alignment in this game, but to the whole of players. In that case, the previous posts by me should be discarded.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:19 am
by Morning Tweet
hi catboi hello Pooooookyyyyyyyyyyy hi Luke hi again Andante hi VP hi GL hi Dwleee hia Ceph greetings Greeting hi Andre hi Cat scratch hi Mena hi Titus hello Bell!!
And hello everybody!
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:19 am
by Menalque
pooky obviously scum
also I wanna be bomb defuser
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:21 am
by Frogsterking
Hey Menalque I'm making a full PoE list, say something townie
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:22 am
by Frogsterking
@Tweet you too
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:24 am
by Morning Tweet
it feels like this game is like rpg mafia where you're kinda trying to just find the best mechanical way to play it regardless of intended game mechanics
Frogster do u know if we have played before?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:25 am
by Titus
HEAL: Frogsterking
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:28 am
by VP Baltar
I don't know what this means.
HEAL: catboi
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:30 am
by Menalque
Hey tweet, u town?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:30 am
by Morning Tweet
i understand it's prolly not decided but are we trying to put town or scum in the defuser's seat
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:31 am
by Titus
In post 116, Morning Tweet wrote:i understand it's prolly not decided but are we trying to put town or scum in the defuser's seat
Whatever gets us info. I'd like town but I'm sorta trolling today.
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:34 am
by Menalque
Hey titus, how you been?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
by VP Baltar
I read the last few pages and I feel like only catboi and maybe ceph actually know what they are taking about?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
by Morning Tweet
I wonder if this game is singlehandedly grinding the site to a halt. i wouldn't be surprised
I'm going to play the game mechanics the more intuitive way for now but if there's a broken strategy im sure we won't be hearing the end of it
HEAL: Greeting
mena, what was your motivation behind asking? This time anyway
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
by GuiltyLion
^^this
In post 84, Frogsterking wrote:Tigger's iso is trash. Slight townread on Ceph.
weak townreads:
StrangeMatter
Cephrir
weak scumreads:
Lukewarm
GuiltyLion
I don't think I should be townread given what I've posted so far, but calling it "trash" feels a bit extreme, especially if you're gonna immediately put me in a category labeled "weak" scumreads. Why did you choose a word as inflammatory/strong as trash?
(also it's Hobbes not Tigger)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:37 am
by Menalque
VOTE: frogster
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:37 am
by Menalque
I’m sad u wouldn’t answer me, morning
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:38 am
by Titus