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Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:41 pm**

It feels like you trusted each other and buddied up WAY too fast.

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:42 pm**

Actually to be fair I've been scum read for creating a cat related day one partnership with another player in a game, people said exactly what I just said, and we both turned out to be town.

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:43 pm**

Us dog people look out for each other

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:44 pm**

Me, a bird and fish person, who is hated by both dog people and cat people ):

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:47 pm**

What are your thoughts on the last page or so, Goldfish?
I know you didn't seem to like my whole 81 but what about everything else (me vs Elsa etc). Any reads on anyone yet?

P-edit:

Birds are alright, except for magpies, whom are spawn of the devil

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:55 pm**

In post 58, clidd wrote:There is one player in particular that I'd consider voting for but the reason is so moonlogic that the chance of the read being right would be as accurate as voting randomly, so not helpful at all.

Anyways, I have two questions:

@Gibus
Why did you vote Crescent if you said that your vote was ''bad''?

@Geraint
Which part of the description of why Vivax was voting George struck you as performative? why?

pedit: Yep

I have a question.
I missed this post the first time, so kinda late. But is "moonlogic" supposed to be crumbing that that person is me? If so why, if not I still wanna hear your moonlogic and which player you were considering voting.

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:02 pm**

In post 104, Alexcellent wrote:What are your thoughts on the last page or so, Goldfish?
I know you didn't seem to like my whole 81 but what about everything else (me vs Elsa etc). Any reads on anyone yet?

P-edit:

Birds are alright, except for magpies, whom are spawn of the devil

Early reads, take all these with a grain of salt, I have difficulty coming up with reads early game

I think vivax is town, (don't nessasarily agree with what they've said but I think they are town)
Gibus I also think is town

As for you/elsa, I think I coukd find reasons to scumread you both, I'm not going to take a side at this point.

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:34 pm**

/vote Elsa Jay

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:36 pm**

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:43 pm**

Oj this isn't logical scumread but 100% based on feels, i felt this ways reading through thread before Alexcellent's vote and post, the thing that made me sus was https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13392320

sure three scum can be lurkers as many saying happened in sum previous game but Elsa has been going too hard for it here imo while not ferreting out secrets with those they did interact with, basically complaining about staleness while enforcing it by harping on about inactives.

subject to change, elsa just makes my brain itch atm

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:02 pm**

In post 58, clidd wrote:There is one player in particular that I'd consider voting for but the reason is so moonlogic that the chance of the read being right would be as accurate as voting randomly, so not helpful at all.

Anyways, I have two questions:

@Geraint
Which part of the description of why Vivax was voting George struck you as performative? why?

@Geraint --- u are yet to answer this question.

@Gibus --- So you're only voting for Elsa only cos of Alexcellent's post? You have no other input on the vote? What are your other reads, if not Elsa, who do you want to vote for?

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:51 pm**

In post 58, clidd wrote:There is one player in particular that I'd consider voting for but the reason is so moonlogic that the chance of the read being right would be as accurate as voting randomly, so not helpful at all.

Anyways, I have two questions:

@Gibus
Why did you vote Crescent if you said that your vote was ''bad''?

@Geraint
Which part of the description of why Vivax was voting George struck you as performative? why?

pedit: Yep

In post 40, geraintm wrote:
In post 39, Vivax wrote:
In post 36, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 29, Vivax wrote:Gettin scum feels from George Bayleys series of posts as entrance.
Leaving it at that.
May I enquire what gives you the scummy vibes? Also why not vote for George?
He deliberately split the posts (or in other words, spammed), that looks to me like he tried too hard to appear casual during his joke entrance.
I'm not willing to vote just for that early in the game. We've got time, and instant majority lynch.
your reasons are very loose. It feels performative.

also, the L word is not allowed on this forum.

because no one can get a good read on anyone day 1, and certainly not by post 40. shouting to the world you find someone scummy so early on just feels like getting something out there so you can show people later you had a read on them

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:53 pm**

In post 63, Crescent wrote:
In post 61, Elsa Jay wrote:I mean genuinely sometimes it's best to cut the weak links early when we can afford it like lurkers and such. And usually the person who posts last was either busy IRL or (90% of the time) is a player who doesn't contribute as much. But a general low poster after 10ish real days will do.
We had one replace day 1 and two replaces early day 2 last game... All were town, and all were members of the hood. It was somehow a scum neighbor with 3 inactive town neighbors.

I am not against murdering someone who doesn't post
at all
if for some reason they're not being replaced, but I did town read day 1's lowest poster last game and was against voting for them. He came off as (and was) completely clueless town who was way out of his depth.

I consider it a really bad sign that a 2 day old game is already talking about inactive hunting. This doesn't feel like a discussion that has a place this early in a day.

you need to chill. differences in play schedules (liek, if this game had properly started getting going on a weekend i would not have been able to post much) or time zones (i'm in the UK and post mainly 9am-4pm and i can often post early in the day and no one reply to me, and then have to catch up with 5 pages over night - it makes my posting history in games look weird).

i only get interested in lurkers if they are avoiding this game but posting elsewhere

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:55 pm**

In post 67, clidd wrote:Right, I'm waiting for you Gera.

VOTE: geraintm

I'm curious how you notice something is performative so early in the game.

In our last experience, town!you took a bit longer to develop reads. Maybe you know something else that I don't?

it wasnt a read, it was me just saying i didn't like what someone else was doing. i'd given someone else a naughty point too, i just like to try and keep arecord of when people do something that makes me sit up, so i can note them for later. if they d a bunch of weird stuff....it can mean something

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:56 pm**

In post 81, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 75, Umlaut wrote:Not voting (7): geraintm, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Vivax, Elsa Jay, Eiralox, Crescent, Corwinoid
Scum is in here somewhere

games over boys, we can all go home. sherlock here has solved it.....

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:58 pm**

In post 110, Eiralox wrote:
In post 58, clidd wrote:There is one player in particular that I'd consider voting for but the reason is so moonlogic that the chance of the read being right would be as accurate as voting randomly, so not helpful at all.

Anyways, I have two questions:

@Geraint
Which part of the description of why Vivax was voting George struck you as performative? why?

@Geraint --- u are yet to answer this question.

chill the f out. i can sleep

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:59 pm**

In post 56, clidd wrote:The rest of the discussion that goes on didn't suggest much in the AI sense. Feels like almost everyone who posted so far is literally dancing in null variations tbh.

I need to read more to be able to infer something more expressive, which implies the need for more posts, interactions and etc.

VOTE: clidd

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:04 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:20 pm**

In post 116, geraintm wrote:
In post 56, clidd wrote:The rest of the discussion that goes on didn't suggest much in the AI sense. Feels like almost everyone who posted so far is literally dancing in null variations tbh.

I need to read more to be able to infer something more expressive, which implies the need for more posts, interactions and etc.
VOTE: clidd

Whats wrong with that post? I thought it made sense.

Posted: **Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:39 pm**

In post 78, Corwinoid wrote:I'm here, I'm keeping up on things but I've been busy lately also. I'm consciously trying to observe more and drive a little less this game than I have in previous ones while I shake the rust off.

Well. This is an awful apologetic self-conscious post considering the timing and that there's quite a bit to go with already. I'm surprised I got to point that out first.
Somehow you're consciously trying to observe more but you miss to comment on things that seem relevant to many others?

VOTE: Corwinoid

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:07 am**

@Elsa --- sum hav town read u for inactive-pointing, should I?

alternatives:
--- u know one or more scum are among inactives, so creating an early distance can aid u in long run.
---- u know one or more scum are among inactives, so your attempts to get them posting are not to aid town but to lessen their sussyness

so the reason some have greened you is the exact reason i'm waryish

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:08 am**

In post 115, geraintm wrote:

chill the f out. i can sleep

no rest for the possibly wicked

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:23 am**

In post 118, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
In post 116, geraintm wrote:
In post 56, clidd wrote:The rest of the discussion that goes on didn't suggest much in the AI sense. Feels like almost everyone who posted so far is literally dancing in null variations tbh.

I need to read more to be able to infer something more expressive, which implies the need for more posts, interactions and etc.
VOTE: clidd
Whats wrong with that post? I thought it made sense.

it contributes nothing and draws no one out, basically stating the intent to lurk until others do the work yet in a flowery and overly-convulated manner.

That said, @geraintm has offered no qualifier to the vote, other than the fact that @clidd has voted fro them(which they did not explicitly state). Their reply to @clidd's vote in itself was a defense of their method, so where does the decision to vote clidd come in? Is the above post decisive enough a motivation?

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:04 am**

Eiralox wrote: That said, @geraintm has offered no qualifier to the vote, other than the fact that @clidd has voted fro them(which they did not explicitly state). Their reply to @clidd's vote in itself was a defense of their method, so where does the decision to vote clidd come in? Is the above post decisive enough a motivation?

This is really what I wanted to know from my question.

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:19 am**

Bleh. Just making this so my big post isn't on the bottom of a page.

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