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Also, what I'm saying happen you can legit read the first few posts in the game for yourself. I'm not backing down from the statements I've said either, I still think it's quite a wolfy opening but I don't feel like getting into a battle of words with someone who got huffy and upset over being called out in a game of mafia for their posting. It's a waste of my time so I moved onto something I found more pressing. Did the anger make me weaken the scumread? Yeah, because it starts to seem a bit personality based, but I think Datisi's angle on Ausuka isn't W/W and I think it felt like a TMI sort of angle. AKA: If there's a wolf in Ausuka and Datisi's prob prob Datisi atm.

I also don't think Meg/Other anime A name are W/W don't have much stock in their statements alone though besides "vibes"

In post 97, Coral wrote:Phoenix's persistence is slightly towny, I think. As scum he would probably recognize that he isn't really getting townread for his approach and may change tactics. I do agree that he sounds a little stiff, but that may just be a personality or writing style trait.

Do you think such a change would happen when we're only 100 posts in? The game is quite short right now so quickly changing your styles seems...unneeded. I think Phoenix is (now do they deserve the amount of TR's they have that's another topic) but I disagree with this being a reason to TR them

In post 100, Xayah wrote:someone who got huffy and upset over being called out in a game of mafia for their posting.

This never happened either?

In post 7, Datisi wrote:bruh

VOTE: ph0enix

In post 8, Ausuka wrote:"bruh" is how I feel and will leave it there

In post 100, Xayah wrote:Also, what I'm saying

did

happen you can legit read the first few posts in the game for yourself.

In post 18, Xayah wrote:I know we probably won't vote the miller claim day 1 but I do think Ausuka's reaction to rolling miller seems a tad overblown here.

:/

In post 101, Xayah wrote:

In post 97, Coral wrote:Phoenix's persistence is slightly towny, I think. As scum he would probably recognize that he isn't really getting townread for his approach and may change tactics. I do agree that he sounds a little stiff, but that may just be a personality or writing style trait.

Do you think such a change would happen when we're only 100 posts in? The game is quite short right now so quickly changing your styles seems...unneeded. I think Phoenix is

fine

(now do they deserve the amount of TR's they have that's another topic) but I disagree with this being a reason to TR them

He's gotten more scumreads than townreads, no? I only see scamper having mentioned a townread. He got scum leanings from Meg, Ausuka, and Datisi, and was questioned by Don in a way that seemed to indicate suspicion.

And yes, I think that it feels like if he is scum then he is making the choice to double down on his approach. It's possible he's decided that he talked his way into where he is and he can talk his way out of it, but to me the barreling forward without regard for how he is perceived seems like it comes from someone who isn't self-conscious. It's easy and often tempting to step back and simply not post as much as scum. It's not a full playstyle change that I'm expecting.

In post 102, Ausuka wrote:

In post 100, Xayah wrote:someone who got huffy and upset over being called out in a game of mafia for their posting.

This never happened either?

In post 88, Ausuka wrote:idk maybe i'm just salty about being pushed for something that didn't happen and her calling me overbearing for pointing it out

VOTE: Phoenix

Do you agree with Megs wolfread?

I wouldn't say 'maybe I'm just salty' is the same as being 'huffy and upset' but like whatever.

I wouldn't say I have a read on Aristeia? I don't think her push on me is fully unreasonable but I haven't seen anything town indicative for her.

In post 104, Coral wrote:

In post 101, Xayah wrote:

In post 97, Coral wrote:Phoenix's persistence is slightly towny, I think. As scum he would probably recognize that he isn't really getting townread for his approach and may change tactics. I do agree that he sounds a little stiff, but that may just be a personality or writing style trait.

Do you think such a change would happen when we're only 100 posts in? The game is quite short right now so quickly changing your styles seems...unneeded. I think Phoenix is

fine

(now do they deserve the amount of TR's they have that's another topic) but I disagree with this being a reason to TR them

He's gotten more scumreads than townreads, no? I only see scamper having mentioned a townread. He got scum leanings from Meg, Ausuka, and Datisi, and was questioned by Don in a way that seemed to indicate suspicion.

And yes, I think that it feels like if he is scum then he is making the choice to double down on his approach. It's possible he's decided that he talked his way into where he is and he can talk his way out of it, but to me the barreling forward without regard for how he is perceived seems like it comes from someone who isn't self-conscious. It's easy and often tempting to step back and simply not post as much as scum. It's not a full playstyle change that I'm expecting.

Hm, alright I'm willing to go along with this read for now. I didn't really catch on how much Pho was becoming a common wolfread. But they're not really in my "I would vote today" tier anyway.

In post 96, Ph0enix wrote:

In post 90, Ausuka wrote:To clarify - she pushed me for something that didn't happen and I thought that showed she didn't care to sort me properly and that's scum indicative.

I don't think you can call 2 posts in which she explains how you're overreacting pushing. Sure, she implied voting you in the first post, but I think that's overwritten by the fact that at the end of the day she didn't vote you, or SR you, for that matter (at least she didn't state it explicitly).

The next question is if that wasn't a push, why point this out in the first place? I don't have an answer to that, though.

If she didn't care to sort you, I don't think she would have backed down as easily as she did, that's my problem with that reasoning.

I don't really understand your points here - she didn't vote me but I definitely feel it was a push anyway and I feel like it was heavily implied she was scumreading me. I think there's nothing stopping mafia from backing down there? I don't think the backing down is actively scummy either I think it could come from either alignment.

In post 98, Ph0enix wrote:

In post 89, Datisi wrote:phoenix kinda feels like he's trying to be ~logically correct and consistent~ without having the
my way too early solve is 2 in {phoenix, done, coral}

What's Coral doing in there?

she's one of the people i do not townread at all

In post 81, Datisi wrote:

In post 73, Donempire wrote:I think the best way to move forward is to L-1 datisi. Days move faster with the threat of a lolhammer on the horizon, and if it does come the second day also moves fast. So i invite the miller to cast their vote, or anyone who wants to be the best player in this here lobby

mmm i really hate this. i feel like lolhammers aren't really uncommon, and lolyeeting a townie on day 1, 3 pages in, would be Not Really Good. don hasn't expressed actually being suspicious of me, so i'm assuming this is supposed to be a "for the pressure" vote, but like. what does he think it's gonna achieve in terms of my posting if i'm at y-2 or y-1?

Its not an immediate reaction i'm looking for. If someone stays l-1 for say 2 days, well their posts can reveal a lot during those two days. Even if you didnt panic when put on l-1, as long as that wagon is relevant you're going to feel the pressure.
And yes, i know lolhammers arent uncommon. I also know that i won all the games i played that had a lolhammer. So, i'm all for spicing it up. Chaos reveals peoples alignments more than reasonable discussion, so i'm all for random lynching. In fact, if a townie is lolhammered, town has a %100 chance to win! Why that is, i cannot say yet because the inexperienced scum can play around that, but you know.

Vote datisi everyone

In post 100, Xayah wrote:I think it felt like a TMI sort of angle.

what's tmi about it

In post 110, Donempire wrote:I also know that i won all the games i played that had a lolhammer.

i know this to be false as i modded a game you were town in that had a lolhammer and that you lost

also i absolutely hate this push-but-not-really on me

VOTE: done

In post 109, Datisi wrote:

In post 98, Ph0enix wrote:

In post 89, Datisi wrote:phoenix kinda feels like he's trying to be ~logically correct and consistent~ without having the
my way too early solve is 2 in {phoenix, done, coral}

What's Coral doing in there?

she's one of the people i do not townread at all

Spoiler:

excluding aristeia as well because i do not want to have her in my poe right now even though i don't have a reason not to have her there

awwww

VOTE: 104 is an interesting thought process. i don't agree with it necessarily, but it vibes as real. so coral can be slightly townie i guess.

bruh

104

VOTE: done

In post 106, Ausuka wrote:I wouldn't say 'maybe I'm just salty' is the same as being 'huffy and upset' but like whatever.

I wouldn't say I have a read on Aristeia? I don't think her push on me is fully unreasonable but I haven't seen anything town indicative for her.

my existence is town indicative

In post 95, Coral wrote:

In post 69, Donempire wrote:

In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.

Why? She loses nothing from claiming it (unless shes rolecopped ig). As far as claims go, its definitely safer than claiming VT anyway, the suspicion will blow over in a day max

Maybe I just trust the vibe that she seems genuinely feeling rather "bruh" about the situation. It's a very well-faked tone if it is fake, since it leaks into her other posts as well. As scum she would probably be laughing internally at going for a silly gambit like that, and I don't feel any undertones of suppressed laughter.

I recognize that this is reading a lot into it, but I personally think it's fair to do so in this situation

Well keeping the tone consistent is scums priority. As town, i can play however i want because i do not care. As scum, i want to paint a picture of myself and want it consistent. So a tonal consistency wouldn't mean anything, it would just mean scum!ausuka knows how to play.

In post 89, Datisi wrote:phoenix kinda feels like he's trying to be ~logically correct and consistent~ without having the actual fire behind his posting

does that make sense? i hope that makes sense

scamper, what do you think

my way too early solve is 2 in {phoenix, done, coral}

i kind of get the sense that's wat phoenix is like as a plyer and i'm not sure it's AI

and i don't have nearly that level of confidence in people being town just yet

i don't know why you asked me this tbh

In post 112, Datisi wrote:

In post 110, Donempire wrote:I also know that i won all the games i played that had a lolhammer.

i know this to be false as i modded a game you were town in that had a lolhammer and that you lost

also i absolutely hate this push-but-not-really on me

VOTE: done

Oops

In post 119, scamper wrote:i don't know why you asked me this tbh

becuz you townread birb

In post 97, Coral wrote:Phoenix's persistence is slightly towny, I think. As scum he would probably recognize that he isn't really getting townread for his approach and may change tactics. I do agree that he sounds a little stiff, but that may just be a personality or writing style trait.

persistence in doing what, exactly?

I would probably be switching my vote to Don here but I think they're at E-2 already and it seems a little twisted to put them at E-1 for suggesting that we put someone else at E-1. It does feel like they're kind of all over the place and I struggle to see a consistent town mindset. That makes me think they could be intentionally trying to look like the town they describe as "playing however they want". The issue is that I don't understand the motivations behind anything they're doing, so it just feels random for the sake of chaos.

I also changed my mind and decided Ari is town!

UNVOTE:

In post 123, Coral wrote:I also changed my mind and decided Ari is town!

what changed your mind from your vote up until now?