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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:21 pm
by Eiralox
Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.

Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.

VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi

this is scum. guillotine asap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:22 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Mohab are lock town,
Explain please.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:26 pm
by Frogsterking
@Asuka


I think there are 2 findable scum now who have posted in the thread. The third one is probably Greeting.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:37 pm
by Nuclear Gandhi
In post 91, hoppip wrote: Hi Nuclear Ghandi! Can you read my post again? It looks like you missed the point of what I was saying. :oops:
I will re-read later, slower n stuff, atm my mind not working well.
This goes for Inu's posts aswell, I haven't read those large posts yet.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:37 pm
by Nuclear Gandhi
In post 98, Ausuka wrote:
In post 89, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
eh do not think i was trying particularly hard there to look town
But you were trying to look town? I consider this as admission for guilt.
Does anyone else believe this's a stretch read?
Do you think scum would admit guilt so openly?
Not intentionally, no. But perhaps you can explain to me why would the thought "how much I
tried
to appeared towny?" pop in a townies thought process or why would the answer ever be above zero? To me it's not a natural towny thing to think about and, at the very least, indicative for >rand wolf slot.
In post 99, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 85, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Please do elaborate on your Inutile townread. Are you like super familiar playing with them? I couldn't even comprehend what they were trying to say, not to mention trying to read them - best I could come up with was they were flabbergasted from wolf stress. That is, until their "I wasn't trying to look town that much" which I think has a chance of being a slip.
I have never played with Inutile. I believe Inutile is Town because of their fight with Asuka. Scum are rarely going to square off like that at the beginning of the game.

I couldn't understand what Inutile was trying to communicate either. All I could tell is that it seemed like they were trying very hard to communicate something and their message was important to them. That's the gist of why I Townread them.
I distinctly remember feeling like Inutile tried to defuse the situation. Can you just quickly quote which Inutile post felt like they're in a fighting mood?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:39 pm
by Greeting
Hi.

VOTE: Nuclear Gandhi

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:39 pm
by Nuclear Gandhi
In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.

Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.

VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi

this is scum. guillotine asap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8
We re-doing the French revolution? :twisted:

Eiralox, are you a hydra? Why are you referring to yourself in plural?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:42 pm
by Frogsterking
@Ghandi

Spoiler:
In post 26, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:What does this mean?
oh i was asking if you had/have a feeling because i might have had/currently have a feeling

but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
was saying it felt like a sort of

like

"this is how to post at the beginning of the game" thing

like especially the first post is textbook "how to rvs"
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
In post 31, inutile wrote:
In post 29, Ausuka wrote:Ok, am I mafia?
i mean, you could be??

i wasn't saying that out of context i was thinking about the question you were asked about your opener and your response to it
In post 33, inutile wrote:
In post 32, Ausuka wrote:
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.

I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.

Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked, i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to it

shrug

i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative so
In post 35, inutile wrote:
In post 33, inutile wrote:
In post 32, Ausuka wrote:
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.

I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.

Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked, i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to it

shrug

i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative so
like it's not like i thought

"and now i will narrate ausuka's play"

but if you want to describe my posting that way you probable can it's not not applicable ya know

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:44 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.

Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.

VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi

this is scum. guillotine asap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8
In post 105, Greeting wrote:Hi.

VOTE: Nuclear Gandhi
Eir and Greeting sittin' in a hood

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:45 pm
by Frogsterking
VOTE: Ghandi

Don't worry Ghandi, I'll still include your question about the Nuke in my survey.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:50 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 108, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.

Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.

VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi

this is scum. guillotine asap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8
In post 105, Greeting wrote:Hi.

VOTE: Nuclear Gandhi
Eir and Greeting sittin' in a hood
I still have two scum reads other than Ghandi FYI.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:14 pm
by Nuclear Gandhi
In post 107, Frogsterking wrote:@Ghandi

Spoiler:
In post 26, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:What does this mean?
oh i was asking if you had/have a feeling because i might have had/currently have a feeling


but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud

In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
was saying it felt like a sort of

like

"this is how to post at the beginning of the game" thing

like especially the first post is textbook "how to rvs"
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there
(also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
In post 31, inutile wrote:
In post 29, Ausuka wrote:Ok, am I mafia?
i mean, you could be??


i wasn't saying that out of context i was thinking about the question you were asked about your opener and your response to it
In post 33, inutile wrote:
In post 32, Ausuka wrote:
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.

I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.

Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked
,
i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to it


shrug


i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative so
In post 35, inutile wrote:
In post 33, inutile wrote:
In post 32, Ausuka wrote:
In post 27, inutile wrote:
In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.

I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.

Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked, i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to it

shrug

i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative so
like it's not like i thought

"and now i will narrate ausuka's play"

but if you want to describe my posting that way you probable can it's not not applicable ya know
Let me colorize how I see their posts (look in your spoiler in the quote of this post):
Neutral
- Just neutral commentary.
Active
- Aggressive, Confrontational, "Fighting" as you called it. Lacking the word for it, but simply put the opposite of Defensive.
Defensive
- Trying to defuse the situation (attention away from them)
Neutral/Defensive

Neutral/Active


I see most of what you quoted bordering between neutral commentary and trying to defuse the situation in a "nothing to see here" sense.
I sincerely don't see the "fighting" that you see in the inutile's posts which you quoted.
We can agree to disagree, but perhaps you can color the same way as I did the same posts you quoted, or alternatively describe in your own words why the quotes you posted felt like "fighting" to you? We see it so opposite, clearly one has to be wrong. :neutral:

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:16 pm
by Nuclear Gandhi
Maybe Frog is the type of guy who'd see begging for mercy on knees as "fighting" :neutral:

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:16 pm
by furtiveglance
Here are some reads of mine.

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile, Hoppip Town

Reads that aren't consensus (I think):

Nuclear Ghandhi Town, Mohab sus, DeltaWave sus
In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energy

VOTE: Inutile
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip () also is mafia.

VOTE: DeltaWave

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:29 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 111, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:We see it so opposite, clearly one has to be wrong.
Not really.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:32 pm
by Greeting
In post 34, Frogsterking wrote:
Frog's Strategy


1) Post survey start

2) Town Read Eiralax and Greeting

3) ???
4) ???

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:42 pm
by Greeting
In post 77, inutile wrote:but yes i would like to find the mafias i do not really get what you’re saying
His argument was based on the fact that it's really uncommon for players to use plural 'mafias' instead of 'mafia', which in his eyes makes you look like you're trying to fit in.

I think it's an exaggeration, but that's what I gathered from the interaction.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:45 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 102, Frogsterking wrote:
@Asuka


I think there are 2 findable scum now who have posted in the thread. The third one is probably
Greeting
Ghandi.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:49 pm
by Greeting
Catching up, I am happy to announce that both
intuile
and
Ausuka
are probably town.
Frogsterking
less likely town than the other two, but still I think more likely town than scum.
furtiveglance wrote: Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile,
Hoppip
Town
What's so towny about
hoppip
?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:52 pm
by Ausuka
In post 104, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Not intentionally, no. But perhaps you can explain to me why would the thought "how much I tried to appeared towny?" pop in a townies thought process or why would the answer ever be above zero? To me it's not a natural towny thing to think about and, at the very least, indicative for >rand wolf slot.
I think you're reading too much into the wording and it was just saying "I disagree with your interpretation"

I think this is a fairly townie response though

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:54 pm
by Ausuka
In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:Here are some reads of mine.

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile, Hoppip Town

Reads that aren't consensus (I think):

Nuclear Ghandhi Town, Mohab sus, DeltaWave sus
In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energy

VOTE: Inutile
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip () also is mafia.

VOTE: DeltaWave
I'd like if you could elaborate on your townreads.

Can you elaborate on your thoughts on 83 as well? I really do not see what you're seeing there

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:54 pm
by Ausuka
I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess

VOTE: furtiveglance

I like this best for now

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:55 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 82, hoppip wrote:
In post 76, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 73, hoppip wrote:
In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energy

VOTE: Inutile
What do you think of the rest of its posts?
frankly most of it confuses me and it seems like lots of weird rationalizations. unless this user is normally on edge all the time, it looks bad
Hmm...I suppose that's fair. But I'm not so sure that "looks bad" is the same as "looks scummy." For instance, I think it looks bad that you're shading Inutile for superficial reasons. But do you think that's scummy?
Town

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:58 pm
by DeltaWave
In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip () also is mafia.

VOTE: DeltaWave
this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbh

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:59 pm
by Frogsterking
furtiveglance townlocked