Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:10 pm
Marci is town.
In post 90, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Huh? What do you know that I dontIn post 89, Kokabiel wrote:scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting this game
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:41 pm
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:05 pm
Buttering up maybe.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:06 pm
OK, I see where you come from.In post 44, The Bombay wrote:
This feels like you misunderstood. My point was that the mafia would bemorecognizant of the existence of the 3rd party, while StarPower's post reads like someone who was not thinking about the existence of a 3rd party.
Therefore, town being the most likely alignment to make such a post.
Not the basis for a strong read, but as far as page 1 posts go, it is nice to have an inkling on someone
~Luke
OK, did post 74 change your read?In post 59, Passenger wrote: The difference between DeasVail and the people who have been posting but not DeasVail is two things.
1. The fact that DeasVail posted about his inability to solve. This shows that DeasVail is scum concerned whether people believe he is solving or not. Statistically this has proven to be a weak but >rand tell.
2. The content of his post. He says that he’s trying to make posts AI in his head, but can’t. Scum when out of ideas tries to do exactly that: look at posts and see if they follow a list of common tells, rather than organically notice a post and realize that it follows a tell, which town does. I suppose the gist of what I’m saying is that DeasVail is scum trying to find reads by creating thought processes, meanwhile town finds reads not by creating thought processes but by simply having those thought processes.
Ah, psychoanalysis...not my favorite but what can you do?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:09 pm
I like how Flavia just ignores everything AI over the last couple pages which would be inconvenient for them to take a stance on.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:11 pm
What a useless fucking question.In post 103, Flavia wrote:OK, did post 74 change your read?
What makes you assume Passenger is telling the truth?In post 103, Flavia wrote:Ah, psychoanalysis...not my favorite but what can you do?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:14 pm
In post 69, Frogsterking wrote:Thinking and reading* if you have poor control over your phonological loop.In post 67, Frogsterking wrote:Or you could listen and hit scum early more often but that would require both thinking and listening at the same time.In post 60, Passenger wrote:As such, take nearly everything he says in the early game with a grain of salt.
In post 70, Frogsterking wrote:In case anyone's confused this isn't a reaction test, I do have a full team solve I expect to be roughly 2/3 precise. I'm clarifying it's not a reaction test specifically because I know that no one interprets me to be joking because I'm sharp enough to realize a player who claims to think I'm joking is unlikely to be the telling the truth.In post 65, Frogsterking wrote:I have reviewed the thread and have a full team solve virtue of you guys being really easy reads.
In post 105, Frogsterking wrote:What a useless fucking question.In post 103, Flavia wrote:OK, did post 74 change your read?
What makes you assume Passenger is telling the truth?In post 103, Flavia wrote:Ah, psychoanalysis...not my favorite but what can you do?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:16 pm
In post 57, Flavia wrote:PS: I'm taking frogsterking's readings on page 1 as a joke, not them being serious
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:18 pm
At least one scum has now exceeded 4 posts.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:27 pm
Well, might seem so but ignoring isn't the best word to use. Reserving judgement till I can come to a conclusion.
You think so? Thing is Bell made one statement about DeasVail being scum out of ideas. Passenger asks a question about what means to make AI posts in their head. Next post, votes expanding on Bell's reasoning. I'm actually interested how things...change. If they do.
See no reason to lie about you liking psychoanalysis. I mean, lots of people do. Just not my liking...all those associations. Never believed in them
You think so? Thing is Bell made one statement about DeasVail being scum out of ideas. Passenger asks a question about what means to make AI posts in their head. Next post, votes expanding on Bell's reasoning. I'm actually interested how things...change. If they do.
See no reason to lie about you liking psychoanalysis. I mean, lots of people do. Just not my liking...all those associations. Never believed in them
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:39 pm
Since you chose to ignore my question about why you thought i was pretending, i will be making my own conclusions on that matter.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:02 pm
@Flavia it's time for you to post a full reads list. It's passed time, really. I'm not accepting the same response from you as I did from Herta, you are different players and I want a read on every player from you even if a bunch of them are null.
@Kookaburra I'm not as confident in my read on you as the other two, fwiw #110 at least is more likely to come from a Resident. I'll let others decide if our interactions look TvT or not.In post 110, Kokabiel wrote:Since you chose to ignore my question about why you thought i was pretending, i will be making my own conclusions on that matter.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:05 pm
Which one posted this and why are all of you ghosting the thread?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:21 pm
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:26 pm
@BellIn post 111, Frogsterking wrote:@Kookaburra I'm not as confident in my read on you as the other two, fwiw #110 at least is more likely to come from a Resident. I'll let others decide if our interactions look TvT or not.
@maybe Passenger
@group scum
@anyone who thinks they have good D1 reads
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:56 pm
On page 5? Sorry, I'm not clairvoyant, mafia or really a good player. You'll get what I can think of now:
The Bombay: liked post 44, though I can really say I agree with that logics. Seems solvey. Maybe, maybe town.
Oh, I think the whole vote stuff about that vote is just playing Freud. Starting a random wagon might not be very efficient but it seems as much as I've read on this site to be a very used tactic.
Kokabiel: post 47- hmm, maybe they believe they've seen something but the way I see "a cigar is just a cigar". Don't get what scum-DeasVale would get from asking to join a vote that as far as I can tell is pretty much random. Basically, they either are trying to solve but I am not getting the logic or trying to find a reason to vote someone. Not sure yet.
Andresvmp- Post 94 has some logic. Granted, pretty non-committed but it was was page 3 or 4.
Furtiveglance- person who claimed miller. Suppose for the moment we can't disbelieve this claim.
DeasVail- so, I guess he tries to find town. Which is logical. No idea why you'd have a list so early. You might be contagious.
You- post 11. Reason I took it as a joke is that well, IMHO, anyone who can say who is mafia/town based on 1 post is either mafia or should work for FBI. Post 66- you really think two experienced mafia players couldn't make that interaction? Other than intuition why it couldn't be SvS? Post 87 is logical question, though didn't see Johnny post any reason to be suspicious of DeasVail? rest is mostly you knowing the whole mafia team is stuff and being overly assertive.
Passenger- told you why I found some posts...worrying.
The rest are the rest. No real idea.
The Bombay: liked post 44, though I can really say I agree with that logics. Seems solvey. Maybe, maybe town.
Oh, I think the whole vote stuff about that vote is just playing Freud. Starting a random wagon might not be very efficient but it seems as much as I've read on this site to be a very used tactic.
Kokabiel: post 47- hmm, maybe they believe they've seen something but the way I see "a cigar is just a cigar". Don't get what scum-DeasVale would get from asking to join a vote that as far as I can tell is pretty much random. Basically, they either are trying to solve but I am not getting the logic or trying to find a reason to vote someone. Not sure yet.
Andresvmp- Post 94 has some logic. Granted, pretty non-committed but it was was page 3 or 4.
Furtiveglance- person who claimed miller. Suppose for the moment we can't disbelieve this claim.
DeasVail- so, I guess he tries to find town. Which is logical. No idea why you'd have a list so early. You might be contagious.
You- post 11. Reason I took it as a joke is that well, IMHO, anyone who can say who is mafia/town based on 1 post is either mafia or should work for FBI. Post 66- you really think two experienced mafia players couldn't make that interaction? Other than intuition why it couldn't be SvS? Post 87 is logical question, though didn't see Johnny post any reason to be suspicious of DeasVail? rest is mostly you knowing the whole mafia team is stuff and being overly assertive.
Passenger- told you why I found some posts...worrying.
The rest are the rest. No real idea.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:16 pm
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:18 pm
By the way, I'll be including a record of your post count in VCs from D2 onwards or when 125 posts are reached by a player, whichever happens first.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:20 pm
SureIn post 82, The Bombay wrote:can you vote kokabiel?In post 80, DeasVail wrote:Why didn’t you ask me?In post 77, The Bombay wrote:can you vote kokabielIn post 76, Frogsterking wrote:IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.In post 74, DeasVail wrote:I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.In post 54, Passenger wrote:rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”
-marci
VOTE: kokabiel
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:22 pm
@RH
I think you might have missed this post
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:26 pm
I feel like getting wagons happening is a pretty common way of moving the game out of the early stages. Has your experience been different?In post 85, Kokabiel wrote:Awww how cute~This, on the other hand, is NOT cute at all. I fail to see how calling acquaintances to join a... RVS? vote is town behavior.
I doubt scum would blatantly call their buddies like this so thats one association down.Yuck. Can totes see this as a scum theater.In post 82, The Bombay wrote:can you vote kokabiel?In post 80, DeasVail wrote: Why didn’t you ask me?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:27 pm
Also I'm feeling pretty good about furtiveglance, flavia and frogster
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:28 pm
ooo they all begin with the letter f!
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:32 pm
In post 119, DeasVail wrote:@RH I think you might have missed this post
Thanks for catching that. I misread the VC Counter.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:34 pm
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