My Milked Eek wrote:
Did you find the heat on your scumpartner to be a bit too hot?
His actions weren't protown at all. Unfossing and unvoting after he got some attention. He's afraid to stick his neck out.
Vote: popsofctown
My Milked Eek wrote:
popsofctown wrote:I either tied myself to Eric because he's fellow scum, or for some other reason. If i did it because he's scum, it does not matter who you kill first. Doesn't matter at all. You kill one of us, he confirms the other. Town wins.
If i tied myself to Eric for any other reason, tying myself to Eric is no longer a tell. Being tied to a random townie isn't a scumtell.
A scum wouldn't "tie" himself to another scum, that'd be stupid, or a big gambit. The point here is, as the others said, this is reduced to wifom. Don't type that much, just say "wifom", lol. Saves us all a few minutes.
I think maybe you missed the point of what i was trying to say, i don't think there was any wifom involved there... it's hard to explain. I don't think it matters any more, because you now seem to be choosing lynches based on the most suspicion now. if you want a clearer re-explanation i can do it another time.
My Milked Eek wrote:
Capricious wrote:This implies to me that he cares much about this game, which could be read differently depending on later events.
Caring != protown
He didn't mean i was protown, i don't think. I think it meant it was a pattern of behavior to track throughout the game. A characteristic of a person is a null tell. Sudden fluctuations in those characteristics (like a sudden post count drop or a pessimistic attitude towards this game) can be a tell later on.
My Milked Eek wrote:
Capricious wrote:"Link with Young Eric" - Seriously? Links are 95% of the time (made-up stat) more subtle than that. Am I linked to Barros and pops because I didn't have a hammer-good reason to vote for them?
Despite links being more subtle
most
of the time, you cannot deny pops tying himself to Eric there, which is, unrelated to his alignment, a doubtful thing to do.
I really don't get this. Are you saying that even if Eric's body comes up clean, it is still suspicious for me to have retracted an FoS? I don't get how that works. Is it suspicious for me to change my mind about any player?
My Milked Eek wrote:
pops wrote:My main reasons for wanting to vote him were that i think he's exhibited some scum tells
Ok, tell us these tells.
Quote magic!:
My Milked Eek wrote:
Did you find the heat on your scumpartner to be a bit too hot?
His actions weren't protown at all. Unfossing and unvoting after he got some attention. He's afraid to stick his neck out.
Vote: popsofctown
By the by, I'm still very unhappy and a little disturbed by the pigeonhole that went down there. His actions "weren't protown at all", so much so that it is (according to you) clearly suspicious that i should remove an FoS from him. Yet Eric doesn't even get an FoS in any of this post. And it worked... no one has been discussing Eric's actions there for a while, until he's started saying totally crazy things recently.
My Milked Eek wrote:
pops wrote:but I'll revote Eric when i figure that out (or when i actually think he's the most suspicious player)
unvote
The dude put you at L-1 without a solid reason, other than "yeah... what they said". You don't think he's suspicious? I'm surprised no one else (except cap) is taking Eric's votepost the wrong way.
Wow.. that slipped past me. I thought guy0's thought out pressure vote was the L-1, and Eric's was L-2.
Anywhoo, i felt like Eric was really suspicious and so was Barros, but at the moment i felt i had clouded judgment. And at the time, i was the only voter on Eric (besides Barros' old half-forgotten one), so i felt like, hey if i'm the only one seeing these things maybe they aren't there, maybe i care more about clearing myself than getting a scum for D1 lynch.
After seeing that other players are seeing tells too, and some of the crazy stuff he's recently said, he's certainly the most suspicious player in the game right now.
For aforementioned reasons and some reasons further down in this post, i can certainly now
Vote: Eric
Eric wrote:I have been trying to confuse and misdirect people in the game on purpose.
Is that why you made that first unvote->vote? To confuse and misdirect? A confused and misdirected town, triumphantly zeros in on the scum and lynches him. Does that even make sense man?
The only explanation i can conceive for this is that he hasn't thought the game out from the town's point of view at all, (smart and dumb townies do, smart scum do, dumb scum don't) so he dropped this comment without realizing no townsperson could come up with "confusing and misdirecting" as a strategy.
Moratorium wrote: The fact that you stress the importance of disassociating yourself with pops, EVEN MORE SO THAN CONVINCING US YOU ARE TOWN, convinces me that you have some kind of association with him. You are both Guilty McGuiltersons.
For a while, I've been a little suspicious of Moratorium (you too milked eek, but you carry the same thing out a little differently), for harping the popsofctown+Eric theory so darn hard, suspicious that maybe the scum are Moratorium + Eric or My Milked Eek +Eric, trying to distance themselves and score a civilian kill by lynching Eric, then lynching me. But after stuff that explicit, it doesn't really make sense anymore.... statements that explicit would get them lynched soon after for being the authors of the "link". So now i'm just puzzled.
^^that last paragraph there doesn't really say much, i know.. but i could get lynched or nightkilled, so i wanted to throw that up while i'm alive.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
