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Just checking in, saying we're still here. We think mongoose is town too.

Sigh...
I really don't understand everyone saying "mongoose is town, you haven't given a case, that's not content, etc." It really gives us absolutely no incentive to make a better case on mongoose if our good cases on him are just ignored and everyone else calls him town for no apparent reason. I have no read on singersigner. Just thought I'd clarify that, since my post earlier might have appeared as buddying.

I'll go back to that vote, let's get a claim from him... UNVOTE: VOTE: Mongoose

Finally got internet, damn parents >_>

danakillsu wrote:@ Stels
Why is your vote not on anyone? You're the only at all active player whose vote is not on anyone.

My vote isn't on anyone because as I previously stated, I am utterly confused as who to vote for. I'm not so sure about MPR, my read on him is neutral right now, since he hasn't said anything that makes him scum or town, same goes for CJMiller (although no one can get a read on him). Mongoose, I honestly don't know. I think he is useless in such a way, that the scum probably won't even want to kill him at night, since this mongoose-hunt has been going on for days. Probably something like a lightning-rod for them, distract their attention from themselves, or they are bussing him in order to confuse Town the next day and cause a mislynch.

SharkFinn wrote:How is mongoose town???????

it's hard to explain. it's the general feeling that makes me believe him town.

I'm pretty sure that's L-2. mongoose, claiming would be advised. We don't want to have to put you at L-1 for various reasons, but if you don't claim, I'm pretty sure someone would be willing to do so.
I obviously don't know for sure, but I believe I would be able to spot a scum fakeclaim pretty easily, knowing what I know about the base material and having my own role PM to go on for flavor.

Fate wrote:

danakillsu wrote:

Fate wrote:

danakillsu wrote:@ Fate
He decided to vote along with you, so the issue is resolved. Unless you try to do something similar or many others vote for you, me voting for you would be useless.

How is the issue resolved? I coerced him into voting someone I wanted to, and that was what you said was scummy about me.

But you're not wiling to push my lynch just because there isn't enough support out there?

Some obvtown you are.

Wow. Nice (apparently intentional) misrep you've got there. One scumtell isn't enough to make me vote for you instead of mongoose. The issue is resolved in that I don't have to vote for you to try to get you to not do it any MORE. And as I said, even if I thought you were a little scummier than mongoose, I wouldn't bother voting for you, because nobody else is, and mongoose looks like he might be lynched today, which is something I want to happen.

So since I've committed "one scumtell" and you seem capable of recognizing what scumtells are, are you going to elaborate on your mongoose case and your reasoning for voting him that has been questioned by someone?

It would really help push the mongoose wagon if you were town and thought he was scum.

But that's not what it is, is it?

YOU MISSED A FUCKIN POST DANA.

YOU ARE RACING TO CATCH UP WITH THE OTHER LYNCH BACKUP PLANS AREN'T YOU?

danakillsu wrote:Sigh...
I really don't understand everyone saying "mongoose is town, you haven't given a case, that's not content, etc." It really gives us absolutely no incentive to make a better case on mongoose if our good cases on him are just ignored and everyone else calls him town for no apparent reason.

I have no read on singersigner. Just thought I'd clarify that, since my post earlier might have appeared as buddying.

Oh hell no...

No

Nope.

This ends now.

The answer to your first question in the above quoted post is no. I do not plan on doing that. I gave an original case on mongoose, and many others, including singersigner recently have given cases on him, and people like you have just ignored them. The second question is obviously rhetorical. I obviously would say that I'm town and he's scum, and apparently you would say the opposite. I did not miss your post, just thought it was ridiculous. Just like your vote for me that

I do not plan on making yet another case on mongoose just to have you say "That's just repeating what everyone else has said".

I'm not really getting the whole cocky attitude thing with Fate...like, why do you think you what's going to happen. I mean, I don't think it's a scummy thing, it's just...odd...

Also, not really getting the whole "threat" thing, if that's what it's supposed to be. Not doing your every bidding (if things are done according to standards) doesn't really warrant a policy lynch now, does it?

Regarding MPR...I'm getting a "newb town" read from him. I don't think he's done anything particularly scummy, except maybe random vote hoping , or oh no! getting suspicious of Fate?? He MUST be scum!

MehPlusRawr wrote:"omg fate said hes scum so time to vote!" is invalid.

QFT.

Also, I don't like Furry's interactions with Fate. Too personal for my liking.

danakillsu wrote:@ Kirbyoshi
His logic is confusing in the extreme, and it kind of seems intentional. It looks a lot like scum trying to confuse us about what he really believes. Also, some of his statements, like his "my f key is stuck" give me a bad gut feeling about him, like he's breadcrumbing a lot or something. Add to that his active (unlike vezokener) lurking, and you have a good lynch candidate.

Aside from active lurking, this case is based entirely on gut.

And no one has explained why mongoose is active lurking as opposed to passive lurking.

Thank you for asking intelligent questions (kind of questions, anyway) instead of just saying, "Not enough" or something along those lines. He is active lurking because he has had 26 posts, one of which was in the last day. He's not the most active lurker ever, but he's trying to make sure he doesn't get replaced and uses his vote to his advantage, but doesn't want to post enough to have a lot of controversial material (which has not been successful, of course).

Passive lurkers, like Zaziesurio in this game, post infrequently, but with plenty of material. They are not particularly scummy, they just don't want to devote the time and effort to catching scum or do not feel they have much of interest to say most of the time.

danakillsu wrote:Thank you for asking intelligent questions (kind of questions, anyway) instead of just saying, "Not enough" or something along those lines. He is active lurking because he has had 26 posts, one of which was in the last day. He's not the most active lurker ever, but he's trying to make sure he doesn't get replaced and uses his vote to his advantage, but doesn't want to post enough to have a lot of controversial material (which has not been successful, of course).

WTF?!

Why do you assume that he is active lurking, are you watching him outside his bedroom window and you see him reading the posts but that he is not posting any replies? Do you see his name at the bottom of the page that says he is currently reading the topic and not making any replies?

Zazie doesn't give plenty of material.

And it is very clear the reason I voted you.

Your case on mogoose was and you just REFUSED to verify your suspicions on mongoose. out right refused, and your case on mongoose is complete bullshit.

danakillsu wrote:Thank you for asking intelligent questions (kind of questions, anyway) instead of just saying, "Not enough" or something along those lines. He is active lurking because he has had 26 posts, one of which was in the last day. He's not the most active lurker ever, but he's trying to make sure he doesn't get replaced and uses his vote to his advantage, but doesn't want to post enough to have a lot of controversial material (which has not been successful, of course).

What posts show you that he is trying to avoid being replaced?

How does he use his vote to his advantage? Provide examples, because he's not even voting the current counter wagon to himself.

Your case is based off a lot of assumptions and stretching and your refusal to elaborate on your earlier case is scummy as hell.

@Tanstalas: If you see what I see switch over. MPR can get smashed tonight for all I care.

@Fate - Dana can be smashed tonight, already have a decent amount of votes on MPR, I'll stay where I am rather than try to get another BW going

EBWOP - And if MPR does flip scum, which I think he will, it will make the case against Dana even that much more obvious (as well as Kirby)

I admit a third switch is a little too much to ask for.

@Pikachu: danascum? Yes/No?


@FURRY: HEY YOU TOWNVOTED YOUR SCUMBUDDY SMART MOVE? DON"T THINK SO. THOUGHTS ASAP.

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@Fate: Yes. He's up there on our smashing list, actually, along with bunnylover.

Good to hear, but PikaPika your vote is still on Chrono. The only non-mongoose lynch that is viable atm is MPR.

Also don't smash Bunny tonight, she seems genuine with her role information. I still want you to claim protect targets tomorrow.

Fate wrote:@FURRY: HEY YOU TOWNVOTED YOUR SCUMBUDDY SMART MOVE? DON"T THINK SO. THOUGHTS ASAP.

SSK was obv-town if you have ever played with him before. Dana is always lynch bait. That slot is still town, if you want I can look into it more tonight though.

MPR still needs swift death. I will put up something there soon enough, but I predict quite a bit of rehashing old points.

Also im thinking moth might be scum here.

Mothrax being scum is the biggest pile of bull I have ever seen. Well, second biggest, behind Fate's logic this game...
@Fate: Why are you being so VI? And why is it so sexy?
With the exception of maybe 2 people, the MPR wagon is prob scum-driven.

Kirby, while I appreciate you defending me, I can do it on my own. Also, that action makes me leary of you... trying to set up my lynch in case you flip?

I don't have a scumread on fate, just an arrogant read. I think my dislike of him comes more from playstyle than anything.
At this point, starting a new wagon is pointless, and I really don't see any foundation for the MPR wagon. I don't have a strong scum read on Mongoose(strong being the key word, and implying that I do have a scum read on them.) but out of the two wagons atm, his is the best option.