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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:30 am
by Bacde
In post 999, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 996, Mac wrote: 2) whats the difference between that and you saying you are not town in rvs? LOLSCUM
What you said was serious. You asked Syryana why he was voting you and not Egg, showing that you cared more about his RVS vote than he did. Again, it feels like scum who got caught for the wrong, or in this case a stupid, reason.

Also, nice deflection by trying to bring in my RQS answer. The two are not even close to being similar. As I've said, your post is closer to Fuzzy's reaction in RVS to me saying he'd be easy to find as scum, rather than to me having fun with an RQS question and stating that I'm a monkey. Ook.
listen, bulbazak, if you think mac is scum, who do you think is his partner?

because mac isn't getting lynched today

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:33 am
by Does Bo Know
Okay, hopefully I can be more active now. Getting back to this later today

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:04 am
by Bulbazak
In post 1000, Bacde wrote: listen, bulbazak, if you think mac is scum, who do you think is his partner?
I believe Mac is mafia, since he genuinely wanted to lynch Fuzzy, which makes his partners Autti and either Bo or TNE. I'm personally leaning TNE, but I need to look into it more.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:27 am
by Bacde
In post 1002, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 1000, Bacde wrote: listen, bulbazak, if you think mac is scum, who do you think is his partner?
I believe Mac is mafia, since he genuinely wanted to lynch Fuzzy, which makes his partners Autti and either Bo or TNE. I'm personally leaning TNE, but I need to look into it more.
its super suspicious to me that you aren't even considering the possibility of klick being mafia

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:28 am
by Bacde
your reasoning has been more "mac COULD be mafia, and I believe that he is"

rather than having any actual reasoning for WHY mac is mafia

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:30 am
by Bacde
In post 1002, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 1000, Bacde wrote: listen, bulbazak, if you think mac is scum, who do you think is his partner?
I believe Mac is mafia, since he genuinely wanted to lynch Fuzzy, which makes his partners Autti and either Bo or TNE. I'm personally leaning TNE, but I need to look into it more.
also, if you are this confident about Autti, why are you focused on Mac, who there is obviously contention about his alignment

rather than Autti, who seems to be a universal scumread?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:17 pm
by Does Bo Know
Yeah, Bulb's scum-case on him is bologna. It's mostly RVS stuff that Bulb believes could be true, but definitely doesn't look like much to anyone but Bulb.

That's pretty much everything right? I was gone for two days and saw nothing really worth commenting on. If I missed a question tell me.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:14 pm
by thenewearth
Is it just me or is bulb distancing himself from klick?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:18 pm
by Bulbazak
In post 1003, Bacde wrote: its super suspicious to me that you aren't even considering the possibility of klick being mafia
I read through his ISO during the night. I believe him to be town.
In post 1004, Bacde wrote:your reasoning has been more "mac COULD be mafia, and I believe that he is"

rather than having any actual reasoning for WHY mac is mafia
I've stated my reasons. How about you actually read them.
In post 1005, Bacde wrote: also, if you are this confident about Autti, why are you focused on Mac, who there is obviously contention about his alignment

rather than Autti, who seems to be a universal scumread?
Syryana asked who my other scumreads were, and then asked me about Mac. You've been making a big deal of it ever since. I've simply been addressing your concerns. Thus, I'm not the one who is overly focused on Mac, but you are. Don't misrep me again.

I'll probably switch to Autti later if I can't get my Egg lynch.

P-edit: Thanks TNE for telling me that you're the third member of the mafia team.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:32 pm
by Does Bo Know
Bulb, let's be real, you're not getting your Egg lynch today. No one else has given him a large scumread.

Why is TNE telling you he's the third Mafia member with his post? I mean, his posting recently's been pretty poor, but I didn't think it was that condemning.

If Bulb votes Autti I'll switch back to Autti. Still standing by whichever wagon is bigger from Klick/Autti I'll be on.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:42 pm
by thenewearth
what? :roll:

Can we lynch bulba after klick? >.>

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:55 pm
by Bulbazak
In post 1009, Does Bo Know wrote: Why is TNE telling you he's the third Mafia member with his post? I mean, his posting recently's been pretty poor, but I didn't think it was that condemning.
He's posting stuff similar to what tweaked my scumdar with Mac. He's implying guilt in others, but is doing nothing about it and is seeking the town's approval. It has been most apparent today and in twilight yesterday.
In post 1009, Does Bo Know wrote: If Bulb votes Autti I'll switch back to Autti. Still standing by whichever wagon is bigger from Klick/Autti I'll be on.
You never took your vote off of Autti, and I feel that there is no need to put someone at L-1 this early in the day.

What do you disagree with in my Mac and Egg cases?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:56 pm
by thenewearth
Because I wan't klick first, then you

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:03 pm
by Bulbazak
I understand that with you being scum and all, you want to achieve your wincon as soon and painlessly as possible. But can you please not make it so apparent.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:10 pm
by thenewearth
I understand that you're scum radar is broken today--

Oh wait... because you're scum, you don't need a radar :roll:

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:32 pm
by Klick
In post 1014, thenewearth wrote:I understand that you're scum radar is broken today--

Oh wait... because you're scum, you don't need a radar :roll:
Correction - the scum here do need a radar.

Thinking Autti and TNE as Mafia right now. One of {GM, DBK} is the third Mafia, and the other is the Werewolf. Leaning GM-Mafia with that group.

Really, I'm doing a lot of homework right now, but there's an attempt at thinking things through.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:33 pm
by thenewearth
To be fair.

They need a wolf radar.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:02 pm
by Bulbazak
Klick, why GM/Bo and not Mac/Egg?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:04 pm
by Klick
Mac is pretty obviously town. Egg is a maybe, but I'm not really sold on it because Egg looked really town yesterday. GM's slot was scummy yesterday, and I forgot why DBK was scummy, but I think it was mostly PoE.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:08 pm
by Bulbazak
How is Mac obviously town?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:47 pm
by Does Bo Know
Oh wait, I meant to UNVOTE:
and VOTE: Klick.

The case on Mac isn't very concrete (I read most of the case as RVS instead of actual scum tells), plus Mac has been pretty townie to me the whole game. He's not that town, but Autti and Klick feel much better for scum to me.

Egg scum also doesn't feel right to me. I took a look at it when you first voted Egg and I didn't think it warranted a scum read. Egg's been transparent the whole game (I know someone else had already said that, but I totally agree with it.)

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:29 pm
by Bacde
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:30 pm
by Bacde
In post 1015, Klick wrote:
In post 1014, thenewearth wrote:I understand that you're scum radar is broken today--

Oh wait... because you're scum, you don't need a radar :roll:
Correction - the scum here do need a radar.

Thinking Autti and TNE as Mafia right now. One of {GM, DBK} is the third Mafia, and the other is the Werewolf. Leaning GM-Mafia with that group.

Really, I'm doing a lot of homework right now, but there's an attempt at thinking things through.
can you explain your reads please?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:32 pm
by Bacde
In post 1008, Bulbazak wrote:Syryana asked who my other scumreads were, and then asked me about Mac. You've been making a big deal of it ever since. I've simply been addressing your concerns. Thus, I'm not the one who is overly focused on Mac, but you are. Don't misrep me again.
what the FUCK just happened

I just got mindfucked out of lynching Klick by a combination of a scumgroup that I liked and Bulbazak acting like I'm misrepresenting him when he is attacking Mac to make me less confident about Klick

screw that

VOTE: Klick

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:41 pm
by Mac
In post 982, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 976, Syryana wrote:Why Mac?
1.)
In post 40, Mac wrote:
In post 2, Syryana wrote:VOTE: Mac
For having the shortest name on the playerlist.
What about Egg? Same amount of letters AND first alphabetically.
This feels like scum who is reacting to being caught for the wrong reasons.

2.)
In post 61, Mac wrote: So... do these guys look like scum partners or what?
Already explained why this was bad. He's seeking the town's approval on a scum read. A town player would have been more assertive. Mac is implying that there is scumminess in the interactions, but he has to make sure that it is okay for him to proceed, since he doesn't want to put himself out there too much.

3.) His later vote on me is pure OMGUS, and again feels like caught scum.

4.) Bacde says Mac is town because of Mac agreeing with him and figuring out the Klick case first. However, it just as easily could be Mac buddying Bacde and trying to paint Klick as scummy, which I believe is the case.
1) RVS is RVS. it was tongue in cheek. it was not serious and I cannot take this part of the case seriously. Like I said, it would be like you saying you are not town and me jumping around shouting "SCUMSLIP! SCUMSLIP!" it just doesn't work like that. RVS is RVS.

2) That was a rhetorical question. A way of expressing my views, you know. Not seeking towncred, but in fact pointing out why I feel you & fuzzy looked like scum partners. Funny you should mention this, because you say I was scum-caught in 1) but this also looks like you are 'scum caught.'

3) My vote on you was not OMGUS. You have already mentioned the reasons I find you to be scum with the partner interactions (in which, one of you have turned out to be scum. hmmm) and then you followed it up with "he hasn't pushed it" when I was asleep. Not OMGUS in the slightest.

4) OR or OR or bacde is a super strong townread of mine? and similarly me to him? JUST A THOUGHT.

so bulba is still my top pick for fuzzy's partner. re-reading some shit now.