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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:10 pm
by Mirhawk
@Cerb
It's not sophistry, your arguments are all just terrible.

If you want to drop it that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion, even if I think its dumb.

Also I apologize for my attitude. I was getting kind of worked up at the end there.

@Skybird
There's tons of reasons really, there aren't really any rules as to how I sort them. This is just how I associate players.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:25 pm
by Spiffeh
Skybird wrote:I'm trying to sort Ami right at the moment. I didn't like her statement in 685 because it sounds like she doesn't want to scum hunt.

And you think scum are more likely to be open about this?

Like you're not looking really in depth here and it bothers me. On the surface, Ami's comment about not scum hunting as aggressively looks a little weird, but what is the scum motivation in admitting this? You're singling this one point out because it's a little odd and harping on it even though it's not alignment indicative.

Skybird wrote:Just noting these two posts because Podo is soft defending Ami here. Possible association?

And you're already drawing associations despite saying you were still trying to sort Ami, all to support what I assume will turn into an Ami scum read?

For instance, what's the difference between podo defending Ami and myself defending FS earlier on? Or anyone defending anyone else?

I think you're reaching really far all so you can have a unique scum read.

And I have been able to identify town!Skybird relatively well in the past so this isn't a playstyle issue.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:26 pm
by Mirhawk
The Pied Piper wrote:Picked up on something else that bothered me that I forgot to mention last night: when did Amihan and TWL end up in your scum pool and why? There's not really anything in your posts about why you were scum reading either of them.

Ami's only in the pool because I'm paranoid about the miller gambit. I actually find her play kind of town.

The Wrong Lynch has been in my pool for a long time, I've just don't talk about it. I found some of their early - mid stuff poorly justified or opportunistic or something like that. Nothing they've said since has made me consider moving them out of it though. Their posts don't feel like they're trying to find anything, more like they're trying to look involved.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:28 pm
by Mirhawk
Why? What do you think of them?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:43 pm
by Spiffeh
A lot of my townreads are on the Mirhawk wagon but I'm not completely sold

Like I get that shitting on Amihan's counter claiming while simultaneously voting for pistachi0n was bad

But the way he's still confident about his position makes it look like he genuinely doesn't get why people were so turned off by it. I'd expect scum to cower away from the subject after receiving so much backlash from it, but he keeps questioning it and trying to clarify it and it reads as town.

And I never really had a problem with his stuff outside of this incident so yeah I don't get why he's receiving heat over the likes of Skybird and Swordsworth and it makes me uneasy

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:46 pm
by Spiffeh
Snarky can you do something?

Like you are such a non entity I forgot to include you in my readslist despite using the OP's list of players to double check I got everyone

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:49 pm
by Spiffeh
Ugh I feel like I have too many townreads and someone is dogging me

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:52 pm
by Spiffeh
Mirhawk wrote:I decided after posting that there was no way find out if the CC was legit or not without flipping one or both of the people involved, so I voted for pistachio anyways.

Ugh this is really bad though

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:03 pm
by Spiffeh
Amihan you said scum probably like the Mirhawk wagon?

Who do you think are the scum on that wagon?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:05 pm
by Spiffeh
Oh I read your very next post and see the answer to my question so nvm

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:19 pm
by SirCakez
Spiffeh wrote:
Axelrod wrote:The most active player is always going to get a favorable nod, and I liked his early enthusiasm.

Yuck

Wait wtf I missed this
This is a terrible town tell from Axel

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:20 pm
by SirCakez
Skybird wrote:
SirCakez wrote:

Skybird where did we play together before where you scumread me and I wasn't scum O.o


I just went looking for the game and I'm not seeing it. I'm not confusing you with someone else am I? I seem to be doing a lot of that lately. :?

Only game I remember playing with you that's not ongoing before was Molla's Grand Idea Mafia and I was scum that game so that's not it :p

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:20 pm
by SirCakez
Spiffeh wrote:
SirCakez wrote:When did Seniors move to null whoa

The only scummy thing they did was calling the Snarky vote a push and somehow getting a read off of him from his naked vote

EP has looked pretty town and hiplop's frustration seems genuine

I keep going back and forth on them and I'm actually leaning towards them being town if I had to guess

Urgh there's so much more then that though.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:21 pm
by SirCakez
Mirhawk wrote:
The Pied Piper wrote:Picked up on something else that bothered me that I forgot to mention last night: when did Amihan and TWL end up in your scum pool and why? There's not really anything in your posts about why you were scum reading either of them.

Ami's only in the pool because I'm paranoid about the miller gambit. I actually find her play kind of town.

The Wrong Lynch has been in my pool for a long time, I've just don't talk about it. I found some of their early - mid stuff poorly justified or opportunistic or something like that. Nothing they've said since has made me consider moving them out of it though. Their posts don't feel like they're trying to find anything, more like they're trying to look involved.

I'm pretty sure you're like....the only person scumreading The Wrong Lynch so you're gonna need to explain this more.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:22 pm
by SirCakez
Snarky is fucking unreadable ugh, it irritates me so much but I don't want to touch him out of fear he's just playing yet another sucky town game. 10/10 vig target though.
Need to review Skybird's posts, will do tomorrow since tired af.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:11 pm
by davesaz
davesaz wrote:
In separate news, I'm not seeing anything town from Dramonic. Is this normal for him?


Repeating question since I didn't see much response to it. I think Dramonic is scum flying under the radar, but I don't know if this is normal for him.
Scum reads with no apparent reasons, avoiding big wagons, not addressing the topics of the day -> classic active lurking scum mode, IMO.
VOTE: Dramonic

Please discuss.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:14 pm
by beeboy
VOTE: Dram

I'd ship it.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:38 pm
by Friendless Seniors
Friendless Seniors wrote:i'm mafiad out peeps
i'll get back to you later today (or is it tomorrow where you are?) plot so stay tuned!

-Also EP

Friendless Seniors wrote:i'm mafiad out peeps
i'll get back to you later today (or is it tomorrow where you are?) plot so stay tuned!

-Also EP

I SAID I'D DO THIS
BUT SLEEP IS LOOKIN REALLY ATTRACTIVE
so bye ; ;

-EP

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:01 am
by Skybird
Spiffeh wrote:
Skybird wrote:I'm trying to sort Ami right at the moment. I didn't like her statement in 685 because it sounds like she doesn't want to scum hunt.

And you think scum are more likely to be open about this?

Like you're not looking really in depth here and it bothers me. On the surface, Ami's comment about not scum hunting as aggressively looks a little weird, but what is the scum motivation in admitting this? You're singling this one point out because it's a little odd and harping on it even though it's not alignment indicative.

Skybird wrote:Just noting these two posts because Podo is soft defending Ami here. Possible association?

And you're already drawing associations despite saying you were still trying to sort Ami, all to support what I assume will turn into an Ami scum read?

For instance, what's the difference between podo defending Ami and myself defending FS earlier on? Or anyone defending anyone else?

I think you're reaching really far all so you can have a unique scum read.

And I have been able to identify town!Skybird relatively well in the past so this isn't a playstyle issue.


I haven't really gotten into the game yet. I thought I'd have more time this weekend but we were making maple syrup. :) This is the first time I've done this and it's been more fun than I thought it would be. Also more time consuming.

I'm not really seeing scum Ami now that I've had a chance to go back and re-read that interaction.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:02 am
by Skybird
Sleep well EP!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:14 am
by Rob14
Vote Count #1.12:


Mirhawk:
THE WRONG LYNCH, SirCakez, The Pied Piper, Cerberus v666, Sakura Hana (5)
Friendless Seniors:
SnarkySnowman, True Ogre, Axelrod, podoboq (4)
Skybird:
Amihan, Friendless Seniors, Spiffeh (3)
SirCakez:
Skybird, Swordsworth (2)
dramonic:
davesaz, beeboy (2)
pistachi0n:
tictac (1)
The Pied Piper:
Tammy (1)
Axelrod:
dramonic (1)
beeboy:
pistachi0n (1)
davesaz:
Mirhawk (1)

Not Voting:
None.

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.


V/LA:
tictac until 3/29.
Swordsworth until 3/30.
Amihan until 4/1.
Plotinus (of The Pied Piper) until 4/3.

Deadline:
(expired on 2016-04-06 21:00:00)

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:22 am
by Skybird
UNVOTE:

Time to drop the RVS vote and get to work on finding scum.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:48 am
by dramonic
davesaz wrote:
davesaz wrote:
In separate news, I'm not seeing anything town from Dramonic. Is this normal for him?


Repeating question since I didn't see much response to it. I think Dramonic is scum flying under the radar, but I don't know if this is normal for him.
Scum reads with no apparent reasons, avoiding big wagons, not addressing the topics of the day -> classic active lurking scum mode, IMO.
VOTE: Dramonic

Please discuss.

I would ask if there's a reason you seek so much approval, but I'm not a fan of rethorics.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:29 am
by SirCakez
No these Dram votes suck stop.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:36 am
by Axelrod
davesaz wrote:
davesaz wrote:
In separate news, I'm not seeing anything town from Dramonic. Is this normal for him?


Repeating question since I didn't see much response to it. I think Dramonic is scum flying under the radar, but I don't know if this is normal for him.
Scum reads with no apparent reasons, avoiding big wagons, not addressing the topics of the day -> classic active lurking scum mode, IMO.
VOTE: Dramonic

Please discuss.

dramonic wrote:
davesaz wrote:
davesaz wrote:
In separate news, I'm not seeing anything town from Dramonic. Is this normal for him?


Repeating question since I didn't see much response to it. I think Dramonic is scum flying under the radar, but I don't know if this is normal for him.
Scum reads with no apparent reasons, avoiding big wagons, not addressing the topics of the day -> classic active lurking scum mode, IMO.
VOTE: Dramonic

Please discuss.

I would ask if there's a reason you seek so much approval, but I'm not a fan of rethorics.

Yeah, let's do this.

Unvote;

Vote: Dramonic