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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:42 am
by Parama
In post 990, Kuuhaku wrote:He has been active without really having said anything of substance. This truly seems like someone feigning activity in order to not draw attention for either lurking or doing something wrong.
this kind of argument always bothers me because there's nothing i can do to convince you otherwise or defend against it, even though it's objectively not true
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 am
by DrippingGoofball
Is mastina being bus'ed?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:13 am
by Pine
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:22 am
by DrippingGoofball
Who is honestly thinking she's scum, and who is bus'ing?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:26 am
by Pine
Well, that would be telling!
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:39 am
by Shiro
In post 1000, Parama wrote: In post 990, Kuuhaku wrote:He has been active without really having said anything of substance. This truly seems like someone feigning activity in order to not draw attention for either lurking or doing something wrong.
this kind of argument always bothers me because there's nothing i can do to convince you otherwise or defend against it, even though it's objectively not true
Of course you can, you can point to the posts you actually do have substance. You could present evidence. Instead of that though, you complain about it, furthering my point.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:48 am
by Parama
to everyone who hates how big this post is or how it's clogging up the thread: blame shiro
In post 31, Parama wrote:i legitimately and wholeheartedly believe firebringer is telling the truth about being scum.
In post 200, Parama wrote:i'm skipping any post longer than like two paragraphs screw y'all
46 - literally no reason for maf to do this but also literally no reason for town to do this. thus i can only conclude mastina is 3rd party
49 -
FoS: BBMolla
50 - mulch is a dark chao, so this confirms them as maf
57 - math is town
69 - no you're maf. we already went over this
72 - dgb town
75 - dgb maf
i'll do the rest in a separate post, y'all need to shut up i'm gamesolving here
In post 208, Parama wrote:108 - alright, ginnigie is maf then
133 - okay not even kidding around this is incredibly scum
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ginnigie
i dunno if there's any point reading the rest of this when we have confscum
In post 232, Parama wrote:140 &
141 - already knew fire was scum but we can add centipede to the list too
152 - literally how could you be any more scum i'm having an aneurysm here
156 - already pinned molla as scum too so that's convenient
161 - i'm under the impression there are only 4 scum in this game so please stop being the 5th scum, impy
181 - conftown
186 - i have literally no clue what any of this means because meta is bs but you're voting correctly so i don't feel like debating it
195 - never lynch this ever this is pure town
212 - did i misspeak
In post 465, Parama wrote: In post 208, Parama wrote:108 - if you've never mislynched mastina as town, then you must be scum in this game, by your own logic, as mastina is town
133 - literally no reason to make this post as town, even jokingly, and it only serves to reinforce the bias against mastina & imply she's scum
In post 232, Parama wrote:
152 - i'm super arrogant scum and i'm gonna play everything off like a joke because i realized my initial post was a complete screw up and i need to save face
fixed my previous posts
In post 467, Parama wrote:i'll fully admit like all my other scumreads are by association with ginggie because of how screamingly obvious scum they are to me & the delayed omgus'ing isn't helping
In post 469, Parama wrote:anyways it's a completely valid strategy to tunnel one player d1 in a large game because there's way too many people to sort otherwise & i only can kill so many people in a single day anyways so why waste my breath, a single scumflip gives off a lot of great association tells & until then association tells are completely useless so again why bother. the early stages of a game are far too chaotic to be worth spending that much effort on
In post 476, Parama wrote: In post 472, Ginngie wrote: In post 465, Parama wrote: In post 208, Parama wrote:108 - if you've never mislynched mastina as town, then you must be scum in this game, by your own logic, as mastina is town
133 - literally no reason to make this post as town, even jokingly, and it only serves to reinforce the bias against mastina & imply she's scum
In post 232, Parama wrote:
152 - i'm super arrogant scum and i'm gonna play everything off like a joke because i realized my initial post was a complete screw up and i need to save face
fixed my previous posts
This is literally all pre-flip analysis?
Your argument is based on no real ground?
are you sure?
you're not doing anything to argue against me here, only saying that i'm wrong but phrasing it as a question so as to look like actual discussion?
you can put a question mark at the end of literally anything to make it look more like you're participating when you're actually not?
In post 500, Parama wrote:mastina is confirmed town imo
chainsaw as a phrase inherently implies the person making the vote is scum & the person they are defending by voting is also scum. on top of that, there's a difference between vote-for-a-vote and vote for what molla did, which is an aggressive call for others to vote, despite having no substantial argument against mastina ("lol scum gambit" is not good enough). it's a scum play and nsg was right to vote him in response for it
white knight is a buzzword and buzzwords are juicy
In post 508, Parama wrote:gingerbread man what do you think of molla btw. i've already pretty vocally expressed i think he's scum & i'm not alone in that sentiment
and anyways, by your own logic,
this is a chainsaw, is it not? why are you so quick to defend molla? this is literally the closest you've come to interacting with him all game
In post 512, Parama wrote: In post 503, Mulch wrote:
- Elli hasn't posted, which they literally only do as scum
i can't stress how bad on so many levels this argument is, it's literally bad enough to completely invalidate your entire post (the rest of which i did not read upon seeing this argument)
In post 516, Parama wrote:the hypocrisy is the smaller part of the problem i have there
i'm consciously ignoring firebringer because there's literally zero value to explaining d1 scumreads
In post 524, Parama wrote: In post 518, Mulch wrote: In post 512, Parama wrote: In post 503, Mulch wrote:
- Elli hasn't posted, which they literally only do as scum
i can't stress how bad on so many levels this argument is, it's literally bad enough to completely invalidate your entire post (the rest of which i did not read upon seeing this argument)
You are talking to someone who has played 3 hydras with Elli and randed scum in 2 of them.
I know what I'm talking about.
This post annoyed tf out of me
1. meta suck
2. maybe he like, hasn't been on the site since the game started a whopping 6 hours ago.
literally his most recent post on the site was a week ago. it may surprise you that life exists outside of mafiascum
In post 749, Parama wrote:hate to say it but centipede slot is actually very likely scum, still keeping on ginseng for now though
i literally don't know what to tell you if you think there's no content in my posts
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:49 am
by Firebringer
There’s no good content in ur posts is more accurate
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:50 am
by Parama
your post : actual content ratio is even lower than mine so i don't know what you're talking about, fire
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:57 am
by Firebringer
Never said my content ratio was good. Just that ur content u provided is pretty bad.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:08 am
by Parama
I mean it's better than voting townstina
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:18 am
by Mulch
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:32 am
by Firebringer
Who the fuck is townstina
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:46 am
by northsidegal
this discussion would be far more productive if people provided reasons instead of essentially just saying "you're wrong".
as far as i understand firebringer's point is just that the self-voting gambit thing only comes from scum, but i just don't see why that's the case.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:49 am
by Mathdino
on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you want to read mastina's 30 page catchup
her reads are bad, she's more EV for scum than town
literally read her first 5 posts in this thread for an actually solid argument for why lynching mastina is the right call
also i don't think self-voting gambit ONLY comes from scum, not by any means. but in a bayesian sense i think it's MORE LIKELY to come from her scum-mind than her town-mind
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:51 am
by Mathdino
also i mean it's at the point where this is just a high information wagon
i am solidly in the camp of D1 policy lynch --> sheep ellibereth next 4 days
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:05 am
by Ginngie
I can’t wait till we lynch Dino lmao
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:13 am
by Mathdino
your strategy is literally "who town who left" gimme a break ginngie
also in case it wasn't hilariously obvious,
In post 89, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also, how many of these fucking "pick a player to be X alignment" games do I need to play and then FLIP TOWN IN before people realize that no one is ever going to pick me to be scum in these games. Humans are naturally risk averse.
Additionally, I think Alisae is the kind of person who would draft me to keep me from being drafted as scum.
this post is the exact kind of argument from team mafia, and is what i've been scumreading all game
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:35 am
by xRECKONERx
im here to stan mathdino forever
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:35 am
by xRECKONERx
i hope mastina self-metas so i can post The Video
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:39 am
by Mathdino
ugh reckoner i'm so sorry
i tried to force guiltylion to post that copypasta but with scumastina replaced with scumlion
but then the fuckers of that town quicklynched him before he could get online to post it at L-1
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:39 am
by xRECKONERx
the thought is what counts
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:11 am
by northsidegal
In post 1014, Mathdino wrote:on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you want to read mastina's 30 page catchup
irrelevant
her reads are bad, she's more EV for scum than town
that's not a reason why she's scum, i'm pretty sure it's also not something that i should be going off of given that we don't have any flips yet
what reads does she have specifically that you think are bad?
literally read her first 5 posts in this thread for an actually solid argument for why lynching mastina is the right call
summarize it for me, pelase
also i don't think self-voting gambit ONLY comes from scum, not by any means. but in a bayesian sense i think it's MORE LIKELY to come from her scum-mind than her town-mind
okay, why?
like, it really seems like people just
want
to lynch mastina moreso than they actually have reasons that she's scum.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:37 am
by Mulch
Mastina is either scum that is being HARD, hard bussed, an endgame setup bus, or they’re town
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:38 am
by Mulch
In post 1023, Mulch wrote:Mastina is either scum that is being HARD, hard bussed, an endgame setup bus, or they’re town
So many people vote parking them confirms this
So it’s like 3 people bussing them, or they’re town