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Why not HWS

I'm not scumreading jjh though
I'm not sure about the obvtown argument, especially since it was so recently used against me lol. And idk if disengagement is AI for him

In post 995, northsidegal wrote:i forget exactly where it was but i read a jjh/worst interaction that felt like theater

worth looking at perhaps.

Preflip associatives lead to mislynches devoid of information...

In post 997, ofrhz wrote:I think town!pintu would have realized this and not voted on davesaz so quickly.

This a meta read? If so, what's the key difference between scum!pintu and town!pintu that backs this up?
If not, what makes you confident that this is true?

In post 998, ofrhz wrote:

In post 987, the worst wrote:was ofrhz in 1867?

yeah, for most of D1 before replacing out

In post 976, the worst wrote:

In post 966, the worst wrote:

In post 964, Mathdino wrote:newbie 1865

brbrb

if this is a good example of her scum game I am highly upside down in how I interpret ofrhz

definitely colder on her now but I've been getting colder anyway

WHO'S DIZZY DUCKLING NOW

I lol'd at this

In post 980, pinturicchio wrote:

In post 977, Something_Smart wrote:Pintu's: your logic is based almost entirely on how scumleaning someone lynchbaity is scummy, which is invalid because town scumlean lynchbait all the time.

My logic is based on how he hasn't said absolutely nothing about me and he drops the bomb saying I was already scummy before IRL reasons, in order to get a vote on me without repercussions. It's not the same of what you're saying.

I was going to finish catching up and then go back to your other post, but this one will do just as well.

In that post I was speaking about present day look at previous posting.
I had not done a concentrated readthrough before that point in the thread.

And I reached the end of the thread and realized you've moved your vote.
I find it somewhat interesting that none of the rest of my reads post got much attention.

Yeah sorry Dave I was really emotional yesterday (was it yesterday that I voted for you?) Thanks to Somewhat_Smart and me having a better day.

Now that you are here, did your reads changed? Is HWS still scum?

HWS's recent posting intensified the scumread.

In post 1006, davesaz wrote:HWS's recent posting intensified the scumread.

what specifically didn't you like about it?

He seems to be holding back, not committing to any scumreads nor rocking the boat until there is something that suits his purposes.

I see what you mean

VOTE: hewhoswims

the worst (3): HitAlt, jjh927, Mathdino,
jjh927 (3): northsidegal, the worst, pinturicchio,
HeWhoSwims (3): davesaz, ofrhz, BlackStar,
Something_Smart (1): ruru,

Not Voting: Something_Smart, Zoronos, HeWhoSwims,

In post 991, pinturicchio wrote:But I still think saying "Pintu's vote on dave was bad" is an exaggeration and that ofrhz is trying to justify a gutread on me with bad arguments

Hmm, if you're town and you think ofrhz is town but her arguments are bad why would you assume she's gut scumreading you?

Other options:
* ofrhz is PoE scumreading you / she doesn't have strong reads this game, knows that getting d1 lynched is -EV, and prefers to lynch someone who isn't confirmed town (This is where I'm at in the game right now so honestly it seems highly plausible...)
* you're misreading ofrhz and she's scum

I'm kinda curious why you jumped to "gut scumread"

In post 869, ofrhz wrote:

In post 815, ruru wrote:

In post 775, ofrhz wrote:My other scumread is pintu

I'm curious about this

I’m actually not sure about this anymore because he just admitted things outside the game are affecting his motivation to play

She implicitly said that one of her reasons to scumread me was lack of motivation; after I explained lack of motivation was NAI, she started to pull off reachy things to push me, so I assume she's still scumreading me but with no other reason than gut. I don't mind gutreads, my gutreads are great so if she want to go with that, she's in all her right, but you have to do a step back and recognize when you're reading every single thing a player is posting as scummy just because you feel like it and not because of logic reasons. And I don't get why you're saying something something +EV (btw I don't know what that means) when I'm trying to cooperate with one of my townreads.

In post 1011, ruru wrote: Other options:
* ofrhz is PoE scumreading you / she doesn't have strong reads this game, knows that getting d1 lynched is -EV, and prefers to lynch someone who isn't confirmed town (This is where I'm at in the game right now so honestly it seems highly plausible...)
* you're misreading ofrhz and she's scum

Oh and if it's by PoE she hasn't stated that, I would be fine with that too since after flips she would know she's wrong, and yes, I could be misreading her, but then again, maybe I'm not misreading her and there's the option I'm trying to get "detunneled" (it's a real word look it up) by people I think are town.

I feel like tunneling/confbias is different from gutreading

In post 1014, ruru wrote:I feel like tunneling/confbias is different from gutreading

Maybe I'm been using the wrong word what's confbias

Confirmation bias, like when you're already scumreading someone everything they do seems scummy

Whereas a gutread would be more like scumreading someone with no clear reason

In post 1016, ruru wrote:Confirmation bias, like when you're already scumreading someone everything they do seems scummy

Whereas a gutread would be more like scumreading someone

to begin with

with no clear reason

Oh ok so I had the gutread thing right but I was using in both cases, you're right, I meant confbias. Well it's easy to see I meant that, is basically the exact definition what I wrote in my last posts

interesting wagon formations we've got here

what's on your mind?

@pintu: yeah I could be confbiasing. I’m not seeing any better picks :/

In post 1009, BlackStar wrote:I see what you mean

VOTE: hewhoswims

Does this mean we’re friends now

In post 1020, the worst wrote:what's on your mind?

-shrug-

wondering how confident i can really be in my reads

what i have right now right, i guess just now i'm waiting for either confirmation or the harsh sting of rejection

In post 1022, ofrhz wrote:

In post 1009, BlackStar wrote:I see what you mean

VOTE: hewhoswims

Does this mean we’re friends now

Yeah, I just got the matching t-shirts made