Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Toranaga]

lol you idiots lynched eragon

[Toranaga]

[Toranaga]

IF ONLY I WAS TRACK IMMUNE AMIRITE GUYS

[Toranaga]

[Toranaga]

wh4t I love playing with you

[GameNBurger]

Please don’t be this way

[LastManStanding]

Votecount 2.2

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Almost50

(1): Toranaga

Toranaga

(2): BuJaber, Wh4t

Not Voting

(4): Egg, Poseidon, GameNBurger, Almost50

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-28 08:00:00)

[Almost50]

If he were more stubborn we would have lynched tora yesterday.

How much more stubborn did you expect me to be when I kept my vote on Tor while the Eragon wagon was building and said I won't switch unless there was enough support? If there was not enough support to the Eragon wagon was still pushing for Tor's lynch.

Mate, who put Tor under the microscope anyway? I did.. and before he even posted (well, after he posted but those were deleted bc he didn't confirm). What sense is there for scum me to point out Tor doesn't like to play scum and assume he didn't post (before the mod corrected that)?

And this reminds me that Egg agreed to my PoV eventually (when the mod confirmed Tor opened his role PM). One more reason why I don't think Egg is Tor's p.

I think it's Poseidon though, That L-1 is for Tor to self-hammer and/or to encourage someone else (a townie) to hammer and end the day fast. If you don't want the hammer to fall you simply don't put someone @L-1 and say "don't hammer".

Hint: I probably was the one expected to hammer because I wanted Tor's head anyway and I'm known to respond while catching up, so I could have done it inadvertently!

[Almost50]

The reason I voted Eragon was because it looked like A50 crumbed tracker earlier in his ISO. If BuJaber is the tracker I have no qualms putting him on the block either.

I didn't crumb anything specific, but I was indeed trying to bait the NK through pretending to be a PR.

[Almost50]

I said EOD I couldn't elaborate but it felt like A50 was setting up for a claim and I had a feeling it would resolve today. If Bu is tracker A50 has set himself up to counterclaim as scum imo.

*Sigh*
God, you're as awful as Ausuka!

I bet if I played in a game you're

modding

and you handed me the Innocent Child slot you'd still SR me after you yourself mod-confirm me!

[Toranaga]

[Almost50]

I can't stand this indecision

Married with a lack of vision

Everybody needs to state a case
(and I mean a real one now if you want me to follow your vote).

Here poseidon.

*Giggles*

Like, when have I ever crumbed my role the LYRICS of a song? (Although that's a good idea, so I might try it sometime)

[Almost50]

wh4t, gnb, bujaber

poseidon

egg

A50

lynch A50 > egg > poseidon in that order

Another hint Egg is clear. If we lynch Tor and then his p kills someone (BuJ) we are 4-1 tomorrow. Lynch me and we are 2-1 on D4. Kynch Egg and scum win.

If we are naive enough to believe Tor (that BuJ is faking the guilty) then we lynch me and then BuJ dies and we are 3-2 already tomorrow, so lynching Egg = Scum win.

Anyway you slice it I don't see Egg flipping red here.

[BuJaber]

@BuJ: Mate, I had you as a string TR for the whole of D1. When you insisted I was scummy I thought you mistook me for a PR and was trying to protect me from the NK by keeping me in the lynch pool. Right now I don't understand why you still think I'm scummy after the flips and the confirmation you yourself got that Tor is indeed scum and should have been lynched.

In theory, I'm still protecting you.

[BuJaber]

And this reminds me that Egg agreed to my PoV eventually (when the mod confirmed Tor opened his role PM). One more reason why I don't think Egg is Tor's p.

I actually think that comes from a partner more often.
He defends him for a while and then finds a way to agree with you without arousing suspicion.

But if we go by the early game only Egg really was pretty townie, he was my first TR, so I'm conflicted.

[Almost50]

I can't stand this indecision

Married with a lack of vision

Everybody needs to state a case
(and I mean a real one now if you want me to follow your vote).

Here poseidon.

Oh damn WAY back with the cryptic poem/lyrics. So, we get one inkling of LAMIST and a plethora of scum actions.

Spoiler:

41 - Early wagon pushing
216 - Opportunistic for inactivity (regardless of read)
348 - Attempting to hammer on a town claim with no proof, even though there were 5 VT's in total at the time, thinking it would give us some kind of safer alternative, when it really just throws the game more in favor of scum if there's a townflip
355 - claims to have given reads on most everyone, when (up to this post) there was only ONE post about such (176)
370 - Reconfirms hammering a VT claim
435 - Unvotes on someone he's been threatening hard with a hammer
482 - Enter the Eragon wagon which is backed up by "he's been townie but this one post seems really scummy"
Need I go on?

There we go. An explicit scum claim.

"Attempting to hammer a town claim" doesn't go with any logic knowing Tor IS scum not Town. Why would you even assume a "Town flip" there when BuJ has already claimed a guilty? And how would my push to hammer SCUM be considered "scummy"??

Oh, yes please.. do go on.

[Toranaga]

[Almost50]

Town BuJaber wouldn't pull that gambit ime. He's either tracker or scum.

Scum??? You think scum would be trying to bait a Tracker CC when they've already shot the Watcher? Like, the Tracker immune goon can do all their kills safely while the other just enjoys the ride.

Let's see.. why won't they just lynch ME today and shoot YOU tonight? You're the one being vocal about BuJ being a suspect. Explain that move from a scum perspective and I might reconsider.

[Almost50]

Town BuJaber wouldn't pull that gambit ime. He's either tracker or scum.

Not pointing the finger against Bu, but wouldn’t a town lynch today damn near solidify a scum win?

Down to
4 VT
1 PR
2 Scum

Lynch a townie, we’re down to 3 town 2 scum. And then it’s LyLo.
We really do need to be 100% on this vote today.

OK, so Posiedon is really inexperienced as scum. Maybe I will give you some tips post-game (just in case you roll scum with me in a future game).

[Almost50]

If Bu is town, as well as Tor (99% sure this is not the case) then he pulled the worst gambit possible and is responsible for game throwing.

EXACTLY, except BuJ is NOT a bad player AT ALL.

[Toranaga]

[Almost50]

The only exception I would say is A50. If he is not NK'd you lynch him at lylo-1.

I fully trust he can find last scum if he is town. But if he is scum I don't want him alive at lylo.

I'll take that as a compliment, so hank you.

[BuJaber]

See what I mean. You will easily convince people you're town when you are actually town. When you're scum it'll get increasingly difficult with time.

If scum think for a second that maybe you will be lynched they might keep you alive.

[Almost50]

You know, in a crazier player list than this one I would have suggested we lynch Poseidon today and end the game tomorrow (Tor already gave up by 1002. One has to consider how sane the players in the game are though, so..

[BuJaber]

I wouldn't be opposed to that in this setup there is no downside. As long as you don't forget to lynch Tor lol.