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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:54 pm
by RadiantCowbells
If I wanted the absolute Max winrate here we'd only have four pairings made to prevent scum from trying to derail the plan later

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:55 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Sakura still short?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:00 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 1000, RadiantCowbells wrote:If I wanted the absolute Max winrate here we'd only have four pairings made to prevent scum from trying to derail the plan later
Yes, but that is anti-fun, so I didn't bother bringing it up.

I also didn't really have a huge issue with LLD's initial proposal since filling up all the pairs eliminates the scum autowin issue. And so long as the initial 3 pairs have at most one scum (which is an acceptable expectation considering scum sometimes weasel into townblocks), it doesn't really matter how the other pairs are made so long as everyone outside the townblock (assuming it's a well-made townblock) dies.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:20 pm
by DVa
I haven't done a full list because I am really struggling with sorting the ladies. My gents list hasn't moved a terribly large amount

still thinking there's a good chance scum is 1 gent, 2 ladies, or possibly 3 ladies if I am wrong about gamma

Gents
townie
Karmeleon -- some of his posts are active posting and I understand why some people scumread him for that but there's been several reactions that felt pretty townie to me
Brian Skies -- he hasn't really pinged me and his last few posts have seemed pretty townie
Kokichi Oma -- this one is hard to say cause I feel like my reasons for tring Kokichi are the same as my reasons for scumreading Gamma, but when Kokichi does it it seems townie. other people know him better but this is where I'm at.
shortaru -- I've liked some of his reactions, some of his thoughts have felt pretty genuine, on the whole thinking newgreen
SirCakez -- I could almost put him below Dunn actually, tonally some of his posts seem townie but I'd like to see more content and a full reads list, particularly considering his critique of Chibi's
Dunnstral -- somehow I feel like I would feel more strongly he was town if he was town, but I didn't correctly sort him in BoR so I'm not sure my ability to read him is that consistent tbh
Gamma Emerald -- as I said, no presence, no effort, which for Gamma seems scummy but somehow for kokichi seems townie, and I don't know that I can verbalize that contradiction but its just their personalities and congruence I guess
scummy

Ladies
more townie/more confidence
ChibiBear -- not strongly opposed to this being newgreen until gamma flips red, at which point I do need to reevaluate the potential for this to be a newred partner. but until I know gamma is red 100% I'm fine with this being town.
Lady Lambdadelta -- feel like this is town mostly from poe but one thing I was thinking was that the caps rage seems to come and go erratically. also feel like the first post was actually a bit at odds with the general dynamic of the rest of the game, but not sure if that's just her deferring to you RC
Malakittens -- for some reason I liked her on page 1 and that hasn't fully gone away but tbh I might have been confusing her with sakura in that moment, I'd say my read here is low confidence
less townie/less confidence

defiantly null
Firebringer -- just don't know
Princess Celestia -- nothing to work with

less scummy
MariaR -- yes, I'm still hung up on the fire thing
Moment -- feel like a lot of the reads are consensus reads and some of the reasoning seems like it's trying to seem pro-town; also feel like the things she's said about gamma have a decent chance of being a bus if gamma flips red
more scummy

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:25 pm
by shortaru
DVa, what do you think of a Chibi/Gamma pair?

That way, there's no need to worry whether she's scum with Gamma if/when he flips red because the question resolves itself.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm v good with short good with Brian Skies maaaybe persuadable karmeleon

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by RadiantCowbells
No chibi is towny we're not wasting her

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:27 pm
by DVa
atm I'd rather Moment/Gamma

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:27 pm
by shortaru
Okie

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Some of what 996 is saying I don’t understand

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Thought the lan was to pair towny people with less towny people outside of the townblock

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:33 pm
by DVa
I like Brian but I guess it's an open question of whether he plans to actually stay focused on the game in dance 1, if he really doesn't want a partner I don't know I'd want to force him into it just cause I tr him

I like Karmy but I also want him to town up more for me rather than me towncasing him right now, I think a read list would help (all in one post too :P :P :P )

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:54 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 1010, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thought the lan was to pair towny people with less towny people outside of the townblock
Yes, that was indeed the plan.

For me, the idea was to speed up the lynch process by enticing town players to ditch their scummy partners. It was mostly a slot-flipping express lane for me rather than anything that was entirely necessary. As long as the initial townblock was well made, it wasn't terribly important to me how the other pairings were done (mostly because I didn't plan on being the one to clean up the mess :P ).

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:54 pm
by Malakittens
In post 982, Firebringer wrote:
In post 979, Sakura Hana wrote:I love how I seem to have dissapeared from people's reads lists
are u doing a mala impression?
fuck you.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:14 pm
by Malakittens
In post 166, MariaR wrote:
In post 38, DVa wrote:I like your style.

Karmy, would you like to go to the dance... with me?
TvT pair right here imo I don't mind it.
In post 44, Malakittens wrote:I don’t even know you! I’m okay with an early p2 read from someone I know
This feels a little forced
In post 279, SirCakez wrote:NOTES ON A SCANDAL
-Mala seems kinda scummy early on, looking for RC approval and the typical scumline of "why am I town". Others noticed this.
-Fuck you guys for having a pointless dick measuring contest @Fire and LLD
-Moment scummy as hell

Still have 7 pages to go but lots of NAI stuff in what I read which blows. Brb.
In post 309, Karmeleon wrote:I have Brian and Mala (until she obvtown up) as scum right now.
Also have Dunn mentioning my name serveral times. I'm only up to page 25 for quotes. Anyways going to bed, might be why i'm so pissed off because i havent been sleeping well again,

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 1001, RadiantCowbells wrote:Sakura still short?
?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:21 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Still short for ideal partner for DVa

you agree she's locktown right?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:25 pm
by Sakura Hana
Well, yes.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:27 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 1003, DVa wrote:I feel like I would feel more strongly he was town if he was town
this made me giggle

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:58 pm
by ChibiBear
I couldn't find anything about it in the rules but is there a set amount of time before an inactivity prod?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:59 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1018, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1003, DVa wrote:I feel like I would feel more strongly he was town if he was town
this made me giggle
Oh yeah
Looks like we have another practitioner of beeboy-style reads
I actually understand the read’s meaning but it’s a fun meme

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:09 pm
by FakeGod
In post 1019, ChibiBear wrote:I couldn't find anything about it in the rules but is there a set amount of time before an inactivity prod?
Just ask me to prod.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:11 pm
by DVa
Is it weird that I'm really enjoying playing with you even though I think you're scum, Gamma?

idk, maybe it's the lack of voting scumreads and the need to townblock over scumblock but this game is really fun so far

maybe it's just cause I'm townread tho

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:12 pm
by DVa
Princess Celestia Oct 27, 05:46am Oct 27, 05:05pm
2 days 4 hours
2
@ mod please prod the pony

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:13 pm
by shortaru
This is probably a dumb question... but since there are only 3 scum, wouldn't it be optimal to only pair up the 4 towniest couples? (Insta-lynch anyone that pairs off outside of Radiant's orders, to minimize scum infiltration)

Possible win right in the pre-game phase, and even in a worst case scenario, town retains majority and it shouldn't be that difficult for Radiant to PoE who's left.

... or am I missing something?