Salamence
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Pops
Alchemist
Chemist
Severa
- DEAD ALIEN - Kerset
Sujimichi
Venus & Mars
Gamma
Farkran
Bitmap
TL
MOST SCUMMY
Yeah, I don't think TL has any clue what they're doing. They're causing mass confusion and it's scummy as fuck. It's like a worse version of Hyena. I'm putting my vote right back here; having taken a good hard look at their post history, I just don't think this kind of play ever comes from town.
But im not saying anything because I like being the most towniest guy in a list that makes no fucking sense
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:01 pm
by popsofctown
Oh the joke doesn't work, Severa said it was desperado I forgot.
Bitmap if you're town you should describe your role PM in detail at least in your neighborhood in case TK does partial flips. FakeGod did that by surprise in a recent game.
I think the costs for that outweigh the benefits.
Same is true for Kerset.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:16 pm
by Bitmap
hood is informed dw
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:39 pm
by Bitmap
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:41 pm
by popsofctown
Bitmap do you like me or dislike me?
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:13 pm
by Bitmap
i think u cool
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:55 pm
by Venus and Mars
Still haven’t completely caught up, sorry but current reads (again in no particular order) are that Bit, Gamma, Sal, TL, Severa and Chemist are all town and I think any votes on those slots are bad.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:13 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1007, Venus and Mars wrote:Still haven’t completely caught up, sorry but current reads (again in no particular order) are that Bit, Gamma, Sal, TL, Severa and Chemist are all town and I think any votes on those slots are bad.
Maybe switch Even with TL? He’s a hard read because he in general, doesn’t have great reads - TL that is. I wrongly sr him in Gameshow.
@Salamence and @Severa, why were you suspicious of my slot for “not playing”? Both of you know exactly why I’m late to the game. I barely even posted anywhere on MS recently and wasn’t even online for much of that.
I don’t even know how much Shiro has read of the game and I’m still catching up. I’m counting on him to deal with the mechanical part of this.
Based solely on meta, rn I’d bet the game on Gamma/Bit being town but especially Gamma. This is GD Gamma to a freaking T here and whenever I hardtown read Gamma, I’m almost always right.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:50 pm
by Farkran
In post 950, Bitmap wrote:
have you ever played as a town role ever? I bailed on your wagon because honestly it shot up way too fast. I still think TL is probably town. pops was someone I was still gauging because I wasn't so sure if pops was being lazy. You assume I'm a very systemic and logical player. That is completely the opposite of how I play. I play very spatially and with gut. I also think very synchronously so I process one thought at a time. I don't really think asynchronously.
Eh, i read this as "i don't have any strong read right now", which is a bad reason to scumread pops based on his vote on gamma. The explanation about your playstyle is plausible for town!you, but does not prove anything in this context. It may be because i have a very different emotional approach to the game, but i think gut reads are the easiest to fake and explain. This does not prove you are scum either, but it does not help get you out of my scumreads.
To clarify, i am not carefree as town. I am frustrated and angry because i don't get what's going on in the game and i am never certain of my reads and actions, regardless of what i declare as "100% positive about this". As scum, i am a lot more anxious, but i don't display it in the day thread because i can vent in the PT, therefore i look much more carefree as scum than how i do as town, and i think this is true for most people - at least when put under pressure.
TL;DR i don't buy your motives for your actions, and your actions look bad.
What caused you to reconsider, and what was it that led you to a town read on me?
Our exchange around 535. Scum who initially scumread me and then reconsider, usually hard townread me for pocketing/nk reasons afterwards. I liked you trying to draw a profile of a player you were unsure of, i think it's a solid towntell coming from your slot.
Gamewide I think people are doing lists too much and I think discussing top 3's and why you feel that way is more relevant but I probably shouldn't try to browbeat people into following my style preferences
I agree with this. It would be more helpful for me if people would explain a few of their strong reads when asked, rather then produce an entire list of their reads with little or no explanation.
You can ask for details about specific players of a readlist, you know. I think readlists are awesome.
Salamence
Kerset
Pops
Alchemist
Chemist
Severa
- DEAD NULL -
Sujimichi
Venus & Mars
Gamma
Farkran
Bitmap
TL
MOST SCUMMY
Yeah, I don't think TL has any clue what they're doing. They're causing mass confusion and it's scummy as fuck. It's like a worse version of Hyena. I'm putting my vote right back here; having taken a good hard look at their post history, I just don't think this kind of play ever comes from town.
I think i need to take a hard stance on you today without your help. Every readlist you post has me agreeing with half of it and strongly disagreeing with the other half. And every time this happens, the players involved are different.
At the moment i would place you among my top 4 scumreads alongside gamma, tl and bitmap. Will not be disappointed if you are today's lynch.
In post 1007, Venus and Mars wrote:Still haven’t completely caught up, sorry but current reads (again in no particular order) are that Bit, Gamma, Sal, TL, Severa and Chemist are all town and I think any votes on those slots are bad.
Maybe switch Even with TL? He’s a hard read because he in general, doesn’t have great reads - TL that is. I wrongly sr him in Gameshow.
@Salamence and @Severa, why were you suspicious of my slot for “not playing”? Both of you know exactly why I’m late to the game. I barely even posted anywhere on MS recently and wasn’t even online for much of that.
I don’t even know how much Shiro has read of the game and I’m still catching up. I’m counting on him to deal with the mechanical part of this.
Based solely on meta, rn I’d bet the game on Gamma/Bit being town but especially Gamma. This is GD Gamma to a freaking T here and whenever I hardtown read Gamma, I’m almost always right.
I might want to trust you on gamma if you explain her bad push on me around 473. Talk to me about her playstyle and whether he does that as town.
You made my hair wet just because you are jealous that I am prettier. I am the most kawaii girl get over it.
Is it legit use of ability? Are we able to determine this?
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:36 am
by Kerset
@TL Let's say that we place you at L-1, because of your behavior but for some reason you don't get lynched. Would you try to change your acting in order to survive D2? Do you think that you should try to improve in order to avoid a mislynch?
Is that real? I hope you'd force a claim first if it was real
If you look at Mayu Kozue, she indeed has such ability but it seems to be roleblock rather then kill.
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:59 am
by Kerset
In post 1007, Venus and Mars wrote:Still haven’t completely caught up, sorry but current reads (again in no particular order) are that Bit, Gamma, Sal, TL, Severa and Chemist are all town and I think any votes on those slots are bad.
That is a lot of TR. Is chemist really such clear read? His activity is minor but you are confident about him.
What caused you to reconsider, and what was it that led you to a town read on me?
Our exchange around 535. Scum who initially scumread me and then reconsider, usually hard townread me for pocketing/nk reasons afterwards. I liked you trying to draw a profile of a player you were unsure of, i think it's a solid towntell coming from your slot.
Suji said there that he is inexperienced but beware. I suspect that he is alt.
Shiro was planning to be more active but I am on a very sad mood because my cat is really sick(we got her to the vet just in time) so it killed my mood to play. Thankfully she is doing better so I will be back on track soon
Shiro was planning to be more active but I am on a very sad mood because my cat is really sick(we got her to the vet just in time) so it killed my mood to play. Thankfully she is doing better so I will be back on track soon
~ Venus
Anyway I caught up once more, if u have any questions throw them my way. My reads are kind of all over the place though so be ware of that
~Venus
In post 1007, Venus and Mars wrote:Still haven’t completely caught up, sorry but current reads (again in no particular order) are that Bit, Gamma, Sal, TL, Severa and Chemist are all town and I think any votes on those slots are bad.
Maybe switch Even with TL? He’s a hard read because he in general, doesn’t have great reads - TL that is. I wrongly sr him in Gameshow.
@Salamence and @Severa, why were you suspicious of my slot for “not playing”? Both of you know exactly why I’m late to the game. I barely even posted anywhere on MS recently and wasn’t even online for much of that.
I don’t even know how much Shiro has read of the game and I’m still catching up. I’m counting on him to deal with the mechanical part of this.
Based solely on meta, rn I’d bet the game on Gamma/Bit being town but especially Gamma. This is GD Gamma to a freaking T here and whenever I hardtown read Gamma, I’m almost always right.
I might want to trust you on gamma if you explain her bad push on me around 473. Talk to me about her playstyle and whether he does that as town.
His posts just seem pure like he sounds really sincere and there’s really nothing logically inconsistent in his thought progression. Scum often have a hard time with this. I should probably link you to Gay Dance, which his play here most strongly reminds me of. I have rolled scum with him 3 times and when he’s scum, he usually sounds really off, makes posts that seem contradictory and don’t make a lot of sense, sometimes scum!Gamma’s posting comes off as weird but he has many strong nuanced reads on a lot of slots, plus there’s the usually town indicative negative/useless utility claim and her argument with Severa which reads tvt to me and I have real trouble seeing scum!Gamma go 1v1 with town!Severa like that.
Shiro was planning to be more active but I am on a very sad mood because my cat is really sick(we got her to the vet just in time) so it killed my mood to play. Thankfully she is doing better so I will be back on track soon
~ Venus
Anyway I caught up once more, if u have any questions throw them my way. My reads are kind of all over the place though so be ware of that
~Venus
I’m so sorry to hear that, I hope you feel better soon.
**HUGS {{{{}}}} **
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:33 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 586, Severa wrote:I think that people are tonally scumreading Sujimichi (who posts in a way that is liable to be tonally scumread) without considering the merits of what she posts and if you focus purely on what she says she's towny.
This looks like town Severa to me. He made a post similar to this in both DnD Mafia and CoaLITion.
