In post 1001, word321 wrote:hmmm
I think pp or nash is a good choice
pp town would increase the odds of a {looker, Bm} solve
pp scum would increase the odds of nash scum
nash seems scummy by himself, but one of the reasons is subordinated to penguins flip VOTE: PenguinPower
why does pp town means a Looker / BM scumteam?
and also, your point on pp scum can also be made teh other way so that's not really valid in terms of priorities
I mean - I kinda just gave them? Scum almost certainly bussed and you three are in the typical bus positions.
You thinking I'm scum means that I was a counterwagon to my partner and made no effort to get towncred by bussing him nor did I try to move the wagon elsewhere. That's extremely suboptimal play.
In post 1001, word321 wrote:hmmm
I think pp or nash is a good choice
pp town would increase the odds of a {looker, Bm} solve
pp scum would increase the odds of nash scum
nash seems scummy by himself, but one of the reasons is subordinated to penguins flip VOTE: PenguinPower
why does pp town means a Looker / BM scumteam?
and also, your point on pp scum can also be made teh other way so that's not really valid in terms of priorities
I mean - I kinda just gave them? Scum almost certainly bussed and you three are in the typical bus positions.
You thinking I'm scum means that I was a counterwagon to my partner and made no effort to get towncred by bussing him nor did I try to move the wagon elsewhere. That's extremely suboptimal play.
#1 this is WIFOM (also why VCA kinda sorta sucks) and #2 you seem quite sure that bussing would be the optimal play for scum - I don't view this as the case. I think you could still make a case for town (or not scum) Mara and be fine as scum (*cough* word *cough*)
I mean - I kinda just gave them? Scum almost certainly bussed and you three are in the typical bus positions.
You thinking I'm scum means that I was a counterwagon to my partner and made no effort to get towncred by bussing him nor did I try to move the wagon elsewhere. That's extremely suboptimal play.
Gimme a break dude. I basically invented the Marashu-wagon. The likelihood of me bussing like
that
, in that spot, in this format, is pretty slim. Is it possible? Of course. But to have me as one of your top suspects today is ridiculous. Your justification here is superficial and low effort - I know you are better than this.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:07 am
by superbowl9
LMAO this is why I love gypyx
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:13 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1009, superbowl9 wrote:#1 this is WIFOM (also why VCA kinda sorta sucks) and #2 you seem quite sure that bussing would be the optimal play for scum - I don't view this as the case. I think you could still make a case for town (or not scum) Mara and be fine as scum (*cough* word *cough*)
Almost everything can be handwaved as WIFOM. I'm just going by probability based on current site meta.
Fun note: my most recent completed game actually goes against this view, but that's an anomaly.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:14 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1010, Battle Mage wrote:Gimme a break dude. I basically invented the Marashu-wagon. The likelihood of me bussing like that, in that spot, in this format, is pretty slim. Is it possible? Of course. But to have me as one of your top suspects today is ridiculous. Your justification here is superficial and low effort - I know you are better than this.
Sorry you fell in that spot? I didn't read most of the game, but where did you invent the wagon?
In post 1010, Battle Mage wrote:Gimme a break dude. I basically invented the Marashu-wagon. The likelihood of me bussing like that, in that spot, in this format, is pretty slim. Is it possible? Of course. But to have me as one of your top suspects today is ridiculous. Your justification here is superficial and low effort - I know you are better than this.
Sorry you fell in that spot?
I didn't read most of the game
, but where did you invent the wagon?
Read the game then.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:20 am
by PenguinPower
Nope.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:43 am
by word321
VCA. The maximum point of PPs wagon was 5/3 to mara, those 2 votes from looker and bm. I am inclined to think looker more than BM tbh; theres also the other actors. I may be paranoid by BM after all.
This is all assuming PP is town; if he is scum, thrn we would have won the game either way,, as we probably have 4 cpnfirmed town slots rn and only increasing with the hider.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:51 am
by superbowl9
In post 1012, PenguinPower wrote:Almost everything can be handwaved as WIFOM. I'm just going by probability based on current site meta.
Fun note: my most recent completed game actually goes against this view, but that's an anomaly.
Exactly why using meta does not work lol, if everyone knows the meta it's very easy to break it. To use the argument that "well scum would have bussed because that's the current meta!" is WIFOM which is not useful unless you can argue that scum is conforming to the current meta, which you can't unless you are scum. Thus using VCA in this way is not useful
Don't make me go on a WIFOM rant please the "Oh WeLl TeChNiCaLlY eVeRyThInG iS wIfOm" argument always bugs me
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:52 am
by PenguinPower
I don't want to devolve this into a playstyle discussion, but....you're wrong.
could you explain the reasons behind your vote on drew please?
BM seems ontop of this game.
Though I don't get the pivot to PP. The two competing wagons for like all of day 1 were scum, really?
PP isn't certain but I definitely wanna run him up. He's a slippery critter, best to deal with his slot early, and it's really down to him and Nash anyway for the final slot.
