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In post 994, Looker wrote:

In post 980, Raya36 wrote:Also noting that I don't like Looker putting doubt on the claims (especially Taylor)

What do you gain from this overdefense of Tayl0r? What do you lose from me being appropriately suspicious of roles that aren't confirmed?



VOTE: Looker

In post 736, Not_Mafia wrote:Can flashwagon Walter please, italiano is a vig kill not a lynch

In post 1004, Nosferatu wrote:it is so very normal to vote somebody who isn't your top scum read i've rarely ever had to justify doing so

In post 1004, Nosferatu wrote:it is so very normal to vote somebody who isn't your top scum read i've rarely ever had to justify doing so

In post 1000, Raya36 wrote:

In post 994, Looker wrote:

In post 980, Raya36 wrote:Also noting that I don't like Looker putting doubt on the claims (especially Taylor)

What do you gain from this overdefense of Tayl0r? What do you lose from me being appropriately suspicious of roles that aren't confirmed?



VOTE: Looker

How is that an over defense of Taylor? I think the claim is genuine and I don't like the shade you're putting on it. Yes we should confirm the claims by the end of the day. But putting shade on them right now does no good.

In post 836, Looker wrote:

• Gamma Emerald asked for a votecount and here it is; so who are you going to vote?

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• Why did CFJ ask me to move my vote but not RCEnigma? Why are players ignoring RCEnigma?

In post 943, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 906, geraintm wrote:

In post 873, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

Or we can just vote you off.

pour quoi?

In post 879, ItalianoVD wrote:@Taylor: I am scumreading Gamma, just so you know.

why?

-An uninspiring iso

-Early day 1 interaction with Banana and Walter: He was okay answering Banana’s pointless questions (45), but got on Walter for asking pointless questions (191). His explanation in 240 made no sense to me. He put merit in Banana’s questions but disregarded Walter’s and they were equally as unproductive.

-The inconsistency on Walter in 842 and 843.

-Potential offwagon scum[/list]

• Where is WaltertheDunce10?

In post 1000, Raya36 wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 994, Looker wrote:

In post 980, Raya36 wrote:Also noting that I don't like Looker putting doubt on the claims (especially Taylor)

What do you gain from this overdefense of Tayl0r? What do you lose from me being appropriately suspicious of roles that aren't confirmed?



VOTE: Looker

How is that an over defense of Taylor? I think the claim is genuine and I don't like the shade you're putting on it. Yes we should confirm the claims by the end of the day. But putting shade on them right now does no good.

• What I was asking geraintm: If you scumread shelly for calling my first post scummy, does her flipping scum reflect negatively on WaltertheDunce10 to you (seeing as he did the exact same thing)?
  
• I didn't move my vote when CFJ requested because I didn't invest enough in this game to feel confident about the decision. It was more advantageous for me to sort you people who've been playing this for a while.

In post 1007, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1000, Raya36 wrote:

In post 994, Looker wrote:

In post 980, Raya36 wrote:Also noting that I don't like Looker putting doubt on the claims (especially Taylor)

What do you gain from this overdefense of Tayl0r? What do you lose from me being appropriately suspicious of roles that aren't confirmed?



VOTE: Looker

How is that an over defense of Taylor? I think the claim is genuine and I don't like the shade you're putting on it. Yes we should confirm the claims by the end of the day. But putting shade on them right now does no good.

it just feels like most of your posts today have been an attempt to pocket me

In post 1009, ItalianoVD wrote:@Taylor: 952 is a joke right?

@Raya: Did you ever look into Walter’s meta? (224). And did you ever go back? (299)

And am I the only one who DIDN’T think Frogster was in a neighborhood?

In post 1012, Looker wrote:

• Where is WaltertheDunce10?

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In post 1000, Raya36 wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 994, Looker wrote:

In post 980, Raya36 wrote:Also noting that I don't like Looker putting doubt on the claims (especially Taylor)

What do you gain from this overdefense of Tayl0r? What do you lose from me being appropriately suspicious of roles that aren't confirmed?



VOTE: Looker

How is that an over defense of Taylor? I think the claim is genuine and I don't like the shade you're putting on it. Yes we should confirm the claims by the end of the day. But putting shade on them right now does no good.

That's not making sense to me. "confirm[ing] the claims by the end of the day" requires suspicion. Why would my suspicion upset you

In post 958, Nosferatu wrote:{italiano, frogster}
{ts, walter, rce}
{looker, gamma, geraint}
{cfg}
{raya}

where im at right now

VOTE: looker

In post 1002, callforjudgement wrote:After rereading Frogster (and thinking about the nightkill somewhat), I think that Frogsterking is town. Not_Mafia's play was, whilst not actually scummy, very anti-town (and Frogster picked up on that). So I'm pretty sure that Frogster would consider Not_Mafia's presence an asset to scum, and there's pretty much no way that a hypothetically scum Frogster would make that kill. (Sometimes scum make non-obvious kills for WIFOM purposes, but I don't think that a hypothetically scum Frogster would expect town to reason "Not_Mafia dead → Frogster town", so this would only be useful for WIFOM if he had a buddy point it out, and this hasn't happened.)

I was townreading Frogster anyway, though, even before the nightkill (his reads are bad but that doesn't make him scum).

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Not_Mafia

, just in case you're reading this from the dead thread:

In post 736, Not_Mafia wrote:Can flashwagon Walter please, italiano is a vig kill not a lynch

Even D1, some players were picking up on the possibility that Italiano was a confirmable power role (I saw Mason as a possibility, but thought that scum was a stronger possibility, and of course if Italiano was on the point of elimination as a Mason he would be able to claim out of it so that was no reason not to push him). He was, in fact, a confirmable power role. Those players are the worst possible slots to vig because if you wagon them and they claim, now you can let them confirm themself overnight and you get a second town-controlled kill; but if you nightkill them as town, then they don't get a chance to demonstrate why you're wrong about them. (This is especially important because players who are confirmable as town tend to put less effort into showing themselves as town through their dayplay!)

I'll be hopeful that you have a good explanation for this postgame. If it was just pure trolling, then you were playing quite heavily against your win condition.

In post 982, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 973, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 971, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 962, Looker wrote:Can anyone interpret Nosferatu's readslist and explain to me why he's voting me over Raya? (Or voting me at all)

{town}
{nulltown}
{null}
{nullscum}
{scum}

so youre saying youre voting a null slot over a scum slot?
explain

In post 970, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 964, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 958, Nosferatu wrote:{italiano, frogster}
{ts, walter, rce}
{looker, gamma, geraint}
{cfj}
{raya}

where im at right now

VOTE: looker

youre voting for someone in the middle of your readlist?

gotta sort them somehow i dont think any more pressure on cfj is doing anything