Silent Star 3: Royalty

[skitter30]

isis i don't really like your push on me, it's shallow and it feels like you're pushing it because you want to almost, and not necessarily because you actually believe it

[skitter30]

I wonder if she was talking about this

ydrasse? maybe. i really don't like the cutesy memey stuff that expands beyond a like minimal rvs, i don't like scrolling through like 15 pages of meems to get to the content

[skitter30]

flea is town

[Infinity 324]

isis i don't really like your push on me, it's shallow and it feels like you're pushing it because you want to almost, and not necessarily because you actually believe it

Man you keep saying stuff wrt isis that’s like “I can see how this could appear true on the surface but...no”. I can’t tell whether it’s towny OMGUS bias or you’re just making up shit to throw back at her

[skitter30]

VOTE: thegoldenparadox

In fairness this is kinda sus in and of itself...

i voted because skitter encouraged me to and earlier in the game she had called me out for not voting and i wanted to see how she'd react. i still think thegoldenparadox is one of the more likely people to be mafia right now, but when people are talking about hammering right now it seems

....

hello i still support and endorse the tgp wagon
i'm not sure what sort of reaction you were looking for from me? i called you out cuz i remembered someone saying you weren't voting earlier, and then i checked and you still weren't voting, and i was wondering if i could entice you to support the righteous and glorious tgp wagon, and then you did

[Gloria Cleary]

993 I have seen scum towncase their buddies so if TGP were to flip scum, I wouldn’t necessarily rule out Gypx as a buddy. It would be much easier for me if Dunn were to obvtown but he still definitely looks better here than TGP. In general a trustworthy towntell is having lots of townreads eventhough I’ve seen people get suspicious of that, because it’s not smart for scum to do that because then they have to walk them back and TGP has pushed on way more slots in this game than he has townreads on. I think he only mentioned Gypyx and me iirc?

[skitter30]

isis i don't really like your push on me, it's shallow and it feels like you're pushing it because you want to almost, and not necessarily because you actually believe it

Man you keep saying stuff wrt isis that’s like “I can see how this could appear true on the surface but...no”. I can’t tell whether it’s towny OMGUS bias or you’re just making up shit to throw back at her

it's an awful and shallow push and i think she should at best know better. more than that she just wants to say things and then not engage with me on it

idk what u mean by 'i can see how this could appear true on the surface but no' bit

pedit also gloria i'm now thinking tht my initial alt guess is incorrect, and i think you're someone else now

[skitter30]

like it seemed like gloria was saying i want to hammer to me, like encouraging you to put to e-1, and then saying that she would put to e-1 and you could hammer

i didn't get the vibe that we were imminently having hammer, but maybe that was an in-the-moment sort of thing

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also infinity i get annoyed when people scumread me for dumb reasons. what does isis's push boil down to even? that she doesn't like my objection to her reasoning for her ydrasse read (which is nai for me) and my response to her push on me (which she declined to really engage with ...)? she's been voting me for the vast majority of the game, but isn't really trying to sort me

[Gloria Cleary]

Oh? You had more than one? Well I didn’t know that and obviously can’t comment on that. I just assumed one and you got it right but now I have no clue.

[Infinity 324]

isis i don't really like your push on me, it's shallow and it feels like you're pushing it because you want to almost, and not necessarily because you actually believe it

Man you keep saying stuff wrt isis that’s like “I can see how this could appear true on the surface but...no”. I can’t tell whether it’s towny OMGUS bias or you’re just making up shit to throw back at her

it's an awful and shallow push and i think she should at best know better. more than that she just wants to say things and then not engage with me on it

idk what u mean by 'i can see how this could appear true on the surface but no' bit

pedit also gloria i'm now thinking tht my initial alt guess is incorrect, and i think you're someone else now

It’s like, it looks like you could get other people to believe that but don’t believe it yourself. Maybe it’s BoP. I just don’t see where you’re getting “isis doesn’t seem like she believes in it”

[skitter30]

i wasn't hoping as much as wondering, it is hard for me to tell how much skitter is considering my play in the past when interacting with me

i'm not super much, but i do sometimes get silent star 1 vibes from you

i'm townreading u btw also

did u unvote just cuz you're not ready for day to end yet? you do agree with tgp-scum tho, right?

[Infinity 324]

like it seemed like gloria was saying i want to hammer to me, like encouraging you to put to e-1, and then saying that she would put to e-1 and you could hammer

i didn't get the vibe that we were imminently having hammer, but maybe that was an in-the-moment sort of thing

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also infinity i get annoyed when people scumread me for dumb reasons. what does isis's push boil down to even? that she doesn't like my objection to her reasoning for her ydrasse read (which is nai for me) and my response to her push on me (which she declined to really engage with ...)? she's been voting me for the vast majority of the game, but isn't really trying to sort me

Can you explain how my reasons are better?

[Gloria Cleary]

I really don’t understand her push on you but I think it’s wrong rather than scummy.

[skitter30]

It’s like, it looks like you could get other people to believe that but don’t believe it yourself. Maybe it’s BoP. I just don’t see where you’re getting “isis doesn’t seem like she believes in it”

a) idk what the first sentence means / is referring to
b) i believe if she scumread me she'd be trying to interact with me and/or sort me, which isn't happening
c) similarly, what she originally called me out on (not liking what i said about her ydrasse read in that she thought i was being needlessly picky) is nai for me, but she failed to me pointing that out, which makes me feel like she's saying things just to say them and isn't trying to actually utilize what she's pinging me on to sort my alignment
d)

It's such a lazy copypasta tell and all the times I've seen it used effectively it's been possible to point at a read that ought to be firm in that phase of game.

this is overinflated rhetoric that goes against most of my experience
e) her whole post going from tgp and back to me in the same post looks like she's trying to look indicesive

[skitter30]

Can you explain how my reasons are better?

aren't your reasons 'you don't look like town yet'

idk it's bad but i get that a lot and doesn't bother me as much

[skitter30]

it's like annoying but part and parcel of getting bop'd, being me, etc
if i got annoyed each time that happened i'd never get anywhere

but isis's reasons are silly and fake looking and i don't feel like she wants or is trying to sort me

[skitter30]

I think 575 was like, “I know you wanted to engage with me, I have to go now here’s when I can do it in real time”. I think hopkirk saw skitter posting and didn’t want her to be confused when he left for a bit.

this is what i thought 575 was ^

[Infinity 324]

Can you explain how my reasons are better?

aren't your reasons 'you don't look like town yet'

idk it's bad but i get that a lot and doesn't bother me as much

Ok but the things I’ve been pushing/questioning you on are similar to why isis is voting you.

Like I’m imagining in skitter’s mind “She was being indecisive a bit, people may agree if I say isis doesn’t look like she believes this push!” Like I can see how things you’re saying could superficially be true about isis’s posts but then I read the posts and I strongly disagree.

[skitter30]

ok i strongly disagree with u then cuz i think her push on me is really shallow

and are u basically saying that you think i may be scum trying to see if i can throw something semi-plausible at isis to see if i can get something to stick that people might believe?

[skitter30]

Ok but the things I’ve been pushing/questioning you on are similar to why isis is voting you.

and no, not really either

[Infinity 324]

ok i strongly disagree with u then cuz i think her push on me is really shallow

and are u basically saying that you think i may be scum trying to see if i can throw something semi-plausible at isis to see if i can get something to stick that people might believe?

Yeah. Or at least, people believe that your SR on isis is real.

[skitter30]

right

and if i'm scum i'm pickign this fight with isis because ...
like do u think that scum!me thinks i'm gonna get much traction on isis here?

[Infinity 324]

I don’t like answering “why would I do x as scum” questions because scum can have a lot of motivations for things, and I’m not arrogant enough to think I can get inside your head completely. Point is, your arguments feel superficial and didn’t feel like you were really trying to analyze isis’s motivations.

[skitter30]

i mean i think her push on *me* is superficial and like she isn't really trying to analyze *my* motivations, and that she's just like lolvoting me for meh reasons that she didn't really think much abt and that she isn't engaging me on

[Infinity 324]

Ok but the things I’ve been pushing/questioning you on are similar to why isis is voting you.

and no, not really either

And I’m pretty sure this is true? Like I questioned you about the isis post on ydrasse, isis brought that up as a reason to SR you. I didn’t like that you called isis out for hedging on the slots she did, neither did she. They’re at least similar reasons and I want to know what about them is different to you.