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In post 998, Blitzo wrote:@dgb - Sure.
VOTE: battle mage
Now.
What's the deal?

Great vote!

Deal with what? I don't know what you are referring to.

In post 559, OutWorldER wrote:Experience. Educated Guessing. Common Sense. All things that let me figure out what scum would probably want to do.

The scum taking tasks things sounds nice in theory but in reality your essentially hoping you guessed right on alignment with no flip (and if the person who takes them isn't scum and doesn't have a task in the same location as the task your taking your only further tanking efficiency, not increasing it.)

Sure you can get close to what scum might want but the only way to be sure is to be scum yourself. So don't act like you're the smart one because that makes you look informed. And just because we might not be able to get scum to take a task doesn't mean we should saddle the most likely people to be town with them. Like your suggestion is the dumbest idea so far, sorry to say.

Why are we voting BM?

In post 912, SirCakez wrote:

In post 732, xRECKONERx wrote:TOWN
titus, gammaem, flea, outworlder*

AT LEAST ONE SCUM
alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp

SOME BIG NULL PILE SOMEWHERE
dgb, taly, blitzo, haschel

SCUMMY OUTSIDE OF MASSCLAIM BULLSHIT
murdercat, akarin, bell

what the fuck is this readslist

it's a readlist, nice of you to quote it and ask what it is

do you want to like, ask an actual question? or u just makin noise?

In post 565, Flea The Magician wrote:GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIN CREW!

I think Flea is town
(for the entire post, not just the explicitly quoted part, I just took the top)

In post 990, Blitzo wrote:@akarin - the fact that 973 was not a good post and he made it while I was posting.
It feels incredibly nitpicky and almost like he pulled that idea out of thin air.
I legitimately don't know what else I can really say about it other than how angry it made me.
Is it scum? Possibly.
@DGB - You're not wrong on that front but I'd still like you to talk to me about stuff.
What haven't I addressed or what's changed or what's up I suppose?
I'd also like to parse my wagon first since it's so bad that I think scum has to be on it.
PEDIT - cakez I'd like you to sit down and point out how "complaining" or whatever it is you've called it has outweighed my reads and other contributions.

I never said it "outweighed" anything
I just think it's a bad look

In post 1004, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 912, SirCakez wrote:

In post 732, xRECKONERx wrote:TOWN
titus, gammaem, flea, outworlder*

AT LEAST ONE SCUM
alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp

SOME BIG NULL PILE SOMEWHERE
dgb, taly, blitzo, haschel

SCUMMY OUTSIDE OF MASSCLAIM BULLSHIT
murdercat, akarin, bell

what the fuck is this readslist

it's a readlist, nice of you to quote it and ask what it is

do you want to like, ask an actual question? or u just makin noise?

You're SRing/null reading everyone except four people
How?

In post 1003, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are we voting BM?

scummy post

In post 573, SirCakez wrote:I probably would vote Gamma - those Reck votes are the first thing to really ping me this game

Why

Caaaaakez you're not trying to fish an easy miselim like in Cards of Destiny are youuuuuu?

Liking Akarin a lot here

Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 573, SirCakez wrote:I probably would vote Gamma - those Reck votes are the first thing to really ping me this game

Why

Because it looks like scum looking for a wagon on LHF

In post 1009, Gamma Emerald wrote:Caaaaakez you're not trying to fish an easy miselim like in Cards of Destiny are youuuuuu?

????????

In post 961, Akarin wrote:And if only the few claim that have claimed now, we're essentially guaranteeing 2 NKs with no one looking particularly suspicious for them. I think claiming where we are going N1 makes sense for at least a lot of players.

I think I'm kind of a special case as outlined before and I still might want to claim it depending.

Like are people clear that that's the cost of not claiming anything? And that's worth not giving scum the information?

Or do people disagree with that conclusion?

If scum wind up ALONE in a room with someone else, they get the extra kill yes
And other people will know who they were with and can clear each other
At which point it's pretty easy PoE to figure out who did it

except... I'm 99% sure that scum have abilities to lock people in rooms, jump between rooms, etc. it would fit and give them a way to fuck with the choice phase, which they absolutely have the ability to do

so... we're essentially saying "we don't know what scum has, we don't know what ways they can fuck with us, so why don't we hand them ALL the information town has to give them an even larger informational advantage"
that's it, that's the case for being transparent with scum ab roles

I don't want to elim anyone today I've said this like 50000000000 times
But interesting you bring that up

In post 966, Akarin wrote:It's frustrating because I feel like people's eyes started glazing over at the mech talk and they just shut their brains down and stopped thinking about it.

or, hear me out, the plan is very stupid

In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

In post 1015, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

@DGB - was this whole scumread thing a ploy to get me to vote for BM?
@Akarin - What exactly do you mean by "bonus kills?"
Sorry if I missed it, I checked your ISO and I know that you've been talking about it but I'm just not really seeing it.
A task win as a primary win where we outrace scum by doing tasks before they simply kill us can't be possible.
Like...That be right.

Pedit - reck has pretty much said everything I wanted to say about it.

In post 1006, SirCakez wrote:You're SRing/null reading everyone except four people
How?

i see you're not reading very closely

i only called 3 people actually scummy in that list, the other bucket was categorizing people on the claim plan who could have scum motivation

and yes, i do feel like given the sheer noise:content ratio in this game, it's completely fathomable to not have many strong town reads at the moment, especially w/ alisae et al leading us all on a one way trip to stupidtown with this goddamn massclaim plan

In post 604, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 543, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 457, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 121, xRECKONERx wrote:oh, not eliminating anyone to give us time to do tasks is pretty smart actually? i think?

How’d you know that came up?

And yeah why the fuck are you okay with the no elim but not the plan portion?
VOTE: Reckoner
TGP you had a point about looking at who supported what.

i see you're quoting your previous post asking me a question which i've already responded to in order to feign some "growth" in read on me, very nice job gamma emerald, it almost seems authentic and human!

i'm okay with the no elim because the reason you usually DON'T NoLim is bc the only mechanism town has to achieve victory is via eliminating scum.
this game is different. there's no imperative to eliminate scum. there's just an imperative to eventually get all tasks done. that's why limming isn't necessarily

Okay but you are objecting to the current plan the seek the task win, WITHOUT proposing your own. What is YOUR plan to get a task victory?

In post 1018, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 1006, SirCakez wrote:You're SRing/null reading everyone except four people
How?

i see you're not reading very closely

i only called 3 people actually scummy in that list, the other bucket was categorizing people on the claim plan who could have scum motivation

and yes, i do feel like given the sheer noise:content ratio in this game, it's completely fathomable to not have many strong town reads at the moment, especially w/ alisae et al leading us all on a one way trip to stupidtown with this goddamn massclaim plan

From what I see everyone in your list is in the possible scumpile except for those four TRs so I don't see what I misunderstood

In post 1016, SirCakez wrote:

In post 1015, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

I think this is legitimately wrong

do tasks, kill obvscum, win

play mafia

like people generally do

In post 1020, SirCakez wrote:

In post 1018, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 1006, SirCakez wrote:You're SRing/null reading everyone except four people
How?

i see you're not reading very closely

i only called 3 people actually scummy in that list, the other bucket was categorizing people on the claim plan who could have scum motivation

and yes, i do feel like given the sheer noise:content ratio in this game, it's completely fathomable to not have many strong town reads at the moment, especially w/ alisae et al leading us all on a one way trip to stupidtown with this goddamn massclaim plan

From what I see everyone in your list is in the possible scumpile except for those four TRs so I don't see what I misunderstood

In post 732, xRECKONERx wrote:

TOWN

titus, gammaem, flea, outworlder*

AT LEAST ONE

SCUM

alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp

SOME BIG NULL PILE SOMEWHERE

dgb, taly, blitzo, haschel

SCUMMY OUTSIDE OF MASSCLAIM BULLSHIT

murdercat, akarin, bell

so basically like

over half the game is in my uh oh pile right now and i need to work on getting it down

i made it real big 4 u