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[Iconeum]

there's also a tonal component that i rarely speak of

but let's say that i like IV's freeposting where VP just feels more forced

[innocentvillager]

thanks! I am town, u r right!

[Luca Blight]

I want to say ftr that Baltar’s more recent posts haven’t sat well with me and I’m less sure on my read on him now

I’ll probably explain this at some point but I don’t feel like doing so rn

[geraintm]

like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.

This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

Where did I say George was scummy?
Like I'm not sure why I am fighting people who are shading my slot. I'm town. I know I'm town. If I am not and have this super duper scum plan to win this game...I am notngood enough to ever pull that off and there is no way anyone is going to let me survive an end game. So....dunno what else to say right now

[innocentvillager]

i tried to do a metadive on alice and i skimmed through her iso of her one completed game and the only thing i got from it is that i really really do not know how to do second-hand meta

Datisi u did this a while ago? was that at the same time you decided town!Alice posted low content too?

also i took a skim of another game of alice that just ended recently and like she was similarly low content and she was town and i'm running out of hope this game will ever have enough content for me to have a solid grasp on

[geraintm]

ok a thought: i feel like ico is giving a town-pass to wooper waaaaaay too easily? like idk off the top of my head but i have a feeling ico should know that wooper is like. not a bad scum player. how in the hecc is he getting so many townpasses here. i don't like it.

i don't really care you think it's TMI
and i think i also mentioned it once or twice that maybe scum!wooper is capable of faking it

does that mean i shouldn't townread him for it?

my process is really simple, especially on day 1

would player x make this post as town? yes? -> townread no? -> scumread
the more posts i see that fit in the first one, the happier i am

i have not seen posts from wooper that fit the second category, and a few that strongly fit the first one

if it helps at all, wooper is the only person who has featured twice so far in my notes of "person who looks suspicious on day 1"

[Luca Blight]

like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.

This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

Where did I say George was scummy?
Like I'm not sure why I am fighting people who are shading my slot. I'm town. I know I'm town. If I am not and have this super duper scum plan to win this game...I am notngood enough to ever pull that off and there is no way anyone is going to let me survive an end game. So....dunno what else to say right now

I’m not shading you - I think you’re Town. I just disagree with your reasoning and general approach to the game

You definitely said something negative about George’s most recent post that implied a scumread/suspicion. I can’t recall the exact wording

[Datisi]

i tried to do a metadive on alice and i skimmed through her iso of her one completed game and the only thing i got from it is that i really really do not know how to do second-hand meta

Datisi u did this a while ago? was that at the same time you decided town!Alice posted low content too?

also i took a skim of another game of alice that just ended recently and like she was similarly low content and she was town and i'm running out of hope this game will ever have enough content for me to have a solid grasp on

i while ago i skimmed a newbie she played in, which was her only completed game on site at the time. here i skimmed the n_m mini that ended a little bit ago.

i don't remember the timeline of me deciding town!alice can post low content and me skimming through her games.

[Iconeum]

if it helps at all, wooper is the only person who has featured twice so far in my notes of "person who looks suspicious on day 1"

i would be interested in seeing what made you suspicious of him exactly?

[geraintm]

if it helps at all, wooper is the only person who has featured twice so far in my notes of "person who looks suspicious on day 1"

i would be interested in seeing what made you suspicious of him exactly?

only person on both crappy wagons so far. it isn't a high tech suspicion.
don't worry, it isnt relevant. I'll be back on my longest wagon vote soon enough, it was just notes i made for myself for Day 2

[innocentvillager]

Datisi do you consider Newbie 2050 low posting from Alice?

[Iconeum]

which are *both* crappy wagons exactly?

GB and?

[Iconeum]

@geraint

[Datisi]

AliceK/Anya/GB

do you have anything interesting to say about these other than "they not post"?

[Datisi]

Datisi do you consider Newbie 2050 low posting from Alice?

i think so? though i remember at some point thinking that she might have been posting more there than she did here, so i'm not sure what my final call was. i can skim again a bit later if it's important

[geraintm]

which are *both* crappy wagons exactly?

GB and?

going to circle back day 2 to the VP Baltar, Anya, Wooper votes on ICO

[Iconeum]

AliceK/Anya/GB

do you have anything interesting to say about these other than "they not post"?

are you serious?

i made a case on alice
i made my stance on GB clear i think? Tho that might just be in my head and agreeing with others who write it down i dunno
and anya yeah ok, i haven't spent time on that slot yet

[innocentvillager]

see Datisi

maybe it's kind of jumbled and fuzzy in your head if you're town, but fmpov, your progression timeline on this realization looks incongruent to me

i tried to do a metadive on alice and i skimmed through her iso of her one completed game and the only thing i got from it is that i really really do not know how to do second-hand meta

this happened some time ago. You supposedly skimmed Newbie 2050 and got basically nothing out of it. But now you're saying you decided Alice had low content that game (okay ill give you that you are saying she posted a bit more?)

then you say this:

also i took a skim of another game of alice that just ended recently and like she was similarly low content and she was town and i'm running out of hope this game will ever have enough content for me to have a solid grasp on

so it feels weird to me that the relevation that town!Alice can be low content too happened when you skimmed Mini Normal 2196, and not really before? because you're clearly suggesting here that you realized it happened here

idk, it's making me queasy, like your progression on meta reading Alice doesn't feel chronological and it's there to make us feel like you are trying to sort her

[NorwegianboyEE]

i just did an ugly distressed cry-laughter sound

i bet the other people in the house are now wondering what the fuck is wrong with me

What the fuck is wrong with you? You disgust me, don’t ever talk to me or my family ever again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

First one: George made a pretty empty post disguised by its length, which is a common scum tactic. His comments on geraint seemed like he was just trying to find something to talk about that made it look at though he was thinking about the game, but it was superficial

His last post: basically copying things that others have said, safe stances and not an original thought amongst them. Again making a long post to compensate for that. His tinfoil theory on me might have been of interest, but it feels like he’s just stalling the day out at this point

God you’re always so much better at putting to words what i’m thinking.
I think i’ll always need a Luca in my game just so i can nod, point to their post, and shout: THIS!! —->

[VP Baltar]

Given the last few pages, I'm very uncertain that George is scum. There's some lazy slumping on here happening.

george is + scum at this point
interested to see you coming to his defense here?

why uncertain?

There is like universal agreement George is sscummy and he is starting to line up as the inevitable D1 yeet when he isn't even posting.

That's way more likely a scum push than not in my experience. If scum was getting run up, I'd expect to see more friction.

[innocentvillager]

where VP just feels more forced

i think that's just his tone

wooper i have to start somewhere

i haven't really egnaged you much this game yet. you had like maybe one line about ico and then you voted him many posts later?

i find the fact that you are pushing me for this like really weird and im curious to see what other people think.

gth it's town!you being frustrated at not being understood ig idk

and that makes you scumread wooper?
scum!wooper is more then capable of faking some kind of read on me here to justify his vote and wagon on me

but he didn't
which suggests he did it *in order to get a read on me* probably

carefree posting and voting probably equals green wooper

so no it did not make me scumread wooper

but thanks for the input. i agree wooper comes out of that interaction looking on the townier side

[innocentvillager]

i think that's just his tone

what i mean here is that I feel like he always plays like this tonally and it's probably NAI

i tend to read his posts and get freaked out that he is manipulating or pocketing me but i think he's just well spoken. lol

[Datisi]

AliceK/Anya/GB

do you have anything interesting to say about these other than "they not post"?

are you serious?

i made a case on alice
i made my stance on GB clear i think? Tho that might just be in my head and agreeing with others who write it down i dunno
and anya yeah ok, i haven't spent time on that slot yet

i forgot about your case on alice tbh
i'm not sure you did? you might have, my mind feels blurry this game
and ye i would be interested in your take on anya

[VP Baltar]

Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead

This is some wild shit after several people have been arguing with you to stop running up wagons you disagreed with.

I'm very confused what changed here for you geraintm