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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:30 am
by Ivyeo
In post 993, osuka wrote: In post 989, Ivyeo wrote:To clarify, his hypotheticals come from an entirely differnt PoV than his own, and I'm just using words to show that things are leans rather than hard reads.
dumbest post in the thread so far
speaking in hypotheticals is useful to elaborate on what i think the game state is, since i dont actually know what the fuck anyone is going to flip ahead of time. get your head out of your ass
I think you misunderstood, the use of hypotheticals isn't an issue, is a question of why. The hypothetical is assuming something that you appear to strongly disagree with. Let me ask this for clarity then, how sure are you of HEM scum?
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:35 am
by geraintm
In post 987, InsidiousLemons wrote:re:
968 i'm kind of wary of how fine everyone is with a dunn lim. unanimity suggests that scum are okay with it too, and his flip gives us almost no information. with 16 hours to go, i will be waking up tomorrow right around the time of the deadline, and i suspect this is the case for many of us. we probably need to decide on a lim tonight, despite the monkey's resistance.
it's worth noting that in the convo quoted in
728, egix is unable to qualify the difference in "attitude" that he feels in ivy's play between one of her scum games and this one, for which he's "thinking she's maybe town here". he's quite eager to move away from the subject in that post, even attacking me to do so. the only reasons he cites for a townread apart from this are
311 and
420 which, while town-looking posts, don't really do it for me anymore given what we've seen since. this could suggest partner equity if one of them flips scum. i recognize that i'm getting a bit all over the place, but i'm feeling the deadline panic a bit and i want to consider every possible option before we make a decision.
VOTE: ivyeo
p-edit: i never criticized her for saying she'd go for dunn so it's interesting that you focus on that. my argument against her is mostly that the progression of her read on osuka feels unnatural. this is being super, super nitpicky, but it also stands out to me slightly that she seems to classify "town" as a group of which she is not a part in
970. i don't really want to read too much into word choice like this, but it caught my eye, so i might as well mention it.
bug am i right in thinking that your top 2 for today are humaneatingmonkey and dunnstral? i want to see how ivy responds to my post but i'm actually leaning in her direction for a lim atp
This is one of the few votes today I have sat up and went huh.
For someone so keen to get a good elimination today, trying to start one now on Ivy is just odd. It isn't going to happen, and looks to me like an attempt at distraction. Certainly in my interesting pile....
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:38 am
by osuka
In post 1000, Ivyeo wrote: In post 993, osuka wrote: In post 989, Ivyeo wrote:To clarify, his hypotheticals come from an entirely differnt PoV than his own, and I'm just using words to show that things are leans rather than hard reads.
dumbest post in the thread so far
speaking in hypotheticals is useful to elaborate on what i think the game state is, since i dont actually know what the fuck anyone is going to flip ahead of time. get your head out of your ass
I think you misunderstood, the use of hypotheticals isn't an issue, is a question of why. The hypothetical is assuming something that you appear to strongly disagree with. Let me ask this for clarity then, how sure are you of HEM scum?
the _point_ of a lot of these hypotheticals is to show that something makes sense because the alternative does not. is that not obvious?
i can't say with full certainty that hem is scum but I do believe that slot will flip red at least 70% of the time. there's a real chance he's just townie with his head really far up his ass, but i don't think that's likely enough to justify executing another slot
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:38 am
by osuka
In post 1001, geraintm wrote: In post 987, InsidiousLemons wrote:re:
968 i'm kind of wary of how fine everyone is with a dunn lim. unanimity suggests that scum are okay with it too, and his flip gives us almost no information. with 16 hours to go, i will be waking up tomorrow right around the time of the deadline, and i suspect this is the case for many of us. we probably need to decide on a lim tonight, despite the monkey's resistance.
it's worth noting that in the convo quoted in
728, egix is unable to qualify the difference in "attitude" that he feels in ivy's play between one of her scum games and this one, for which he's "thinking she's maybe town here". he's quite eager to move away from the subject in that post, even attacking me to do so. the only reasons he cites for a townread apart from this are
311 and
420 which, while town-looking posts, don't really do it for me anymore given what we've seen since. this could suggest partner equity if one of them flips scum. i recognize that i'm getting a bit all over the place, but i'm feeling the deadline panic a bit and i want to consider every possible option before we make a decision.
VOTE: ivyeo
p-edit: i never criticized her for saying she'd go for dunn so it's interesting that you focus on that. my argument against her is mostly that the progression of her read on osuka feels unnatural. this is being super, super nitpicky, but it also stands out to me slightly that she seems to classify "town" as a group of which she is not a part in
970. i don't really want to read too much into word choice like this, but it caught my eye, so i might as well mention it.
bug am i right in thinking that your top 2 for today are humaneatingmonkey and dunnstral? i want to see how ivy responds to my post but i'm actually leaning in her direction for a lim atp
This is one of the few votes today I have sat up and went huh.
For someone so keen to get a good elimination today, trying to start one now on Ivy is just odd. It isn't going to happen, and looks to me like an attempt at distraction. Certainly in my interesting pile....
elaborate?
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:55 am
by bugspray
i am always really confused
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:45 pm
by osuka
that makes two of us
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:45 pm
by osuka
so are we blasting hem to the moon or what
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:01 pm
by InsidiousLemons
992 makes a convincing enough case that i could probably go for hem. i didn't notice the time discrepancy at first, and i can't find any other examples of monkey replying to a post that isn't the most recent without a quote or p-edit.
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:13 pm
by InsidiousLemons
we've got to get this show on the road. it's 12 hours to deadline and we need to start building momentum somewhere.
VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
i think this puts him at E-4 because the wagons are still so divided
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:13 pm
by Anya
don't be ridiculous apples
if that's the case then this question went completely unanswered when it's obviously the more important question being asked
like obviously monkeyman is answering that one rather than answering another which involves him admitting he knows about black market secrets
tempted to vote you for that actually
infact i think this apple has a worm in it
VOTE: lemons
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 pm
by bugspray
In post 906, Anya wrote:it's a townfall if anything
the cannister is spraying again
Earlier ypu called out a townfall and said I was full of air
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:17 pm
by bugspray
Abya what is happening
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:21 pm
by InsidiousLemons
i'm pretty sure anya is sticking with the same thing she said before.
@anya in
905 humaneatingmonkey makes an initial justification which mentions nothing about responding to another question. do you believe that someone who's been on the site since 2017 doesn't know the difference between a PT and a PR?
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:21 pm
by Anya
yeah i think it's a townfall from monkey and lemons doesn't believe what he's saying
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 pm
by bugspray
VOTE: hem seems like it
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:23 pm
by Anya
In post 905, humaneatingmonkey wrote: In post 73, Dunnstral wrote:No, that's just a general way of covering roles like neighbor and mason
this is what I remembered and I thought Dunn was zeroing in on the roles available to this game.
I misunderstood that PT and PR are the same
isn't this the obvious sequence of events
bugspray says what pr = pt confusion etc
monkeyeatingbanana replies with 903
bugspray replies with sCuMsLiP
monkey eater clarifies further
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 pm
by bugspray
What is a townfall apparently we are meaning something completely different
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:26 pm
by Anya
when town falls over clumsily revealing their town license that fell out of their pocket
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:29 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 1015, Anya wrote:
In post 905, humaneatingmonkey wrote: In post 73, Dunnstral wrote:No, that's just a general way of covering roles like neighbor and mason
this is what I remembered and I thought Dunn was zeroing in on the roles available to this game.
I misunderstood that PT and PR are the same
isn't this the obvious sequence of events
bugspray says what pr = pt confusion etc
monkeyeatingbanana replies with 903
bugspray replies with sCuMsLiP
monkey eater clarifies further
> 898
> 899
> conveniently cuts out 900-902
> 903
> 904
> 905
"isn't this the obvious sequence of events?"
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 pm
by InsidiousLemons
@bug townfall = anya-speak for townslip. she's saying that hem didn't make a scumslip, which is consistent with her earlier post
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 pm
by bugspray
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 pm
by InsidiousLemons
very good bug yes that is the post in question
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 pm
by InsidiousLemons
@anya if you show me your town license i'll show you mine
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:35 pm
by osuka
i regret to inform everyone that i am heading to the bars so i'm not going to be sober for very long
just get on the wagon please VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:35 pm
by osuka
voting for effect because ive been voting that slot for a while now