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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:15 pm
by Seanzie
In post 997, nomnomnom wrote:
Who said I did?
While you are here, I'm actually curious
In post 990, Seanzie wrote:humaneatingmonkey
nomnomnom
Kerset
MaxTheFox
Bambi Jay
Dwlee99
T3
Salsabil Faria
boxxy
Almost50
Seanzie
I wanna know why you isolated T3 there.
Sorry, I forgot to respond to this. You did essentially when you said you were 100% convinced of your PoE of Salsabil, Boxxy and me.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:17 pm
by Almost50
In post 994, Seanzie wrote:You refuse to answer my questions, but you expect me to answer yours? I'm willing to engage with you in an equal-exchange discussion, but so far you don't seem willing to do that.
This question also could be rolefishing, so sorry, not biting. Answer my questions. Once you do that, I might be willing to answer one of yours.
Really clever of you! *Smirk*
Anyone -else- would see that I did provide an answer and supported it with evidence too. In a NORMAL GAME, a 13 players setup has AT LEAST 2 TPRs. That's the mastina part. The Ircher part "could" hint more than 2 TPRs (Ircher leans towards PR rich setups). But let's not meta the designers/reviewers, so I'll stick with 2 as the bare minimum.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:17 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 999, Seanzie wrote: In post 997, nomnomnom wrote:
Who said I did?
While you are here, I'm actually curious
In post 990, Seanzie wrote:humaneatingmonkey
nomnomnom
Kerset
MaxTheFox
Bambi Jay
Dwlee99
T3
Salsabil Faria
boxxy
Almost50
Seanzie
I wanna know why you isolated T3 there.
T3 has done very little, and has done nothing that has made me think that he is town, whereas I have had at least some good feelings about everyone above T3. On the other hand, he has done so little that I also couldn't really make a case that he is scum, but everyone below him I can point to specific things that make them >rand!scum.
Glad you clarified.
VOTE: Sean
I think you represent the kind of textbook scum who is more interested in trying to cast shade on the most people you can, rather than actually solving.
In fact, the very fact that Kyouko being one of your very few townleans on day1 speaks volumes as to kyouko dying.
It also puts a big question mark on most of your posts on day 1 asking for a bunch of people their townreads, while having essentially none yourself.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:19 pm
by Almost50
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:22 pm
by Seanzie
In post 1002, nomnomnom wrote: In post 999, Seanzie wrote: In post 997, nomnomnom wrote:
Who said I did?
While you are here, I'm actually curious
In post 990, Seanzie wrote:humaneatingmonkey
nomnomnom
Kerset
MaxTheFox
Bambi Jay
Dwlee99
T3
Salsabil Faria
boxxy
Almost50
Seanzie
I wanna know why you isolated T3 there.
T3 has done very little, and has done nothing that has made me think that he is town, whereas I have had at least some good feelings about everyone above T3. On the other hand, he has done so little that I also couldn't really make a case that he is scum, but everyone below him I can point to specific things that make them >rand!scum.
Glad you clarified.
VOTE: Sean
I think you represent the kind of textbook scum who is more interested in trying to cast shade on the most people you can, rather than actually solving.
In fact, the very fact that Kyouko being one of your very few townleans on day1 speaks volumes as to kyouko dying.
It also puts a big question mark on most of your posts on day 1 asking for a bunch of people their townreads, while having essentially none yourself.
Yehhh... you aren't reading my posts, are you? I had given multiple townleans and no one else had given any before I asked that question?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:23 pm
by Seanzie
In post 1001, Almost50 wrote: In post 994, Seanzie wrote:You refuse to answer my questions, but you expect me to answer yours? I'm willing to engage with you in an equal-exchange discussion, but so far you don't seem willing to do that.
This question also could be rolefishing, so sorry, not biting. Answer my questions. Once you do that, I might be willing to answer one of yours.
Really clever of you! *Smirk*
Anyone -else- would see that I did provide an answer and supported it with evidence too. In a NORMAL GAME, a 13 players setup has AT LEAST 2 TPRs. That's the mastina part. The Ircher part "could" hint more than 2 TPRs (Ircher leans towards PR rich setups). But let's not meta the designers/reviewers, so I'll stick with 2 as the bare minimum.
Quote posts where you answer my questions please.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:26 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 1004, Seanzie wrote:Yehhh... you aren't reading my posts, are you? I had given multiple townleans and no one else had given any before I asked that question?
Unfortunately I have. Multiple times even. I've mostly ISO checked people a big majority of today
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:29 pm
by Almost50
Attention: I need someone to translate between me and Seanzie. This job is voluntary and with no pay. Applicants will be interviewed the next time I login
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:33 pm
by Seanzie
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:34 pm
by Seanzie
In post 1006, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1004, Seanzie wrote:Yehhh... you aren't reading my posts, are you? I had given multiple townleans and no one else had given any before I asked that question?
Unfortunately I have. Multiple times even. I've mostly ISO checked people a big majority of today
Well considering that you seemed to miss all my posts about Cyrus and all my townleans, I'mma say you need to read more carefully.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:42 pm
by Seanzie
In post 852, Seanzie wrote: In post 842, Almost50 wrote: In post 839, Bambi Jay wrote:Almost, what Monkey does he got? He's avoiding the question and won't play with me even though he's a "troll" player.
I am letting him play it all out until he hangs himself with his own tail.
FTR, ISO me vs him. See my reaction to his entrance. I may have lightened up a little since, but it doesn't mean I have him as a "clear".
BTW, my Full read list looks like this:
Definitely TOWN
:
Almost50, boxxy, Seanzie, Kerset, Rathe/Bambi Jay
Possibly Town
(have some reservations/paranoia):
Dwlee99, Salsabil Faria
Null:
T3, MaxTheFox
Scummy
:
humaneatingmonkey
SCUM
:
nomnomnom
I'd advise you/anyone to to do a triple-ISO of cyrus/nom/HEM and re-evaluate their reads accordingly.
Like, who votes/pushes boxxy the most? That trio.
T3 backed off as soon as he realized the claimed role wasn't what he thought it was. T3's push thus wasn't agenda-y.
Who pushed Seenzie (and for what)??
Who
finally gave up
and voted cyrus?? Scum ARE nom & HEM.
VOTE: 3 noms
It seems like your whole worldview is premised on the idea that Boxxy is town. Why do you think that? I think that is a very dubious assumption.
You think Cyrus pushed Boxxy with any sort of seriousness? Can you please provide evidence for this?
Actually, it was me pushing HEM, not HEM pushing me. And after going back and forth with HEM, I felt good about hem. While there were some issues with how his original case was presented, he was able to further explain and his case on Boxxy had depth, and pointed out some things that IMO very likely point to Scum!Boxxy.
Please tell me about HEM and Cyrus's interactions. I'd like to see how you are coming to the conclusion that they are likely teamed.
Finally gave up? What exactly were they giving up? If you think the team is Cyrus/Nom/HEM, then that is 3 out of the 7 votes on Cyrus, so Cyrus wouldn't have been in immediate danger, so I don't see how you could be concluding that the team just gave up on saving Cyrus.
I'm still waiting on Almost50 to respond to these questions. His readslist here is way out of whack with my perception of this game, and him trying to tie Cyrus/nom/HEM together here is extremely bad. He makes claims about interactions that just didn't happen (when exactly did Cyrus push Boxxy? When did HEM push me?). Y'all need to check his work. He is refusing to engage with me, and you all are letting him just get away with this.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:44 pm
by T3
UNVOTE: nom3
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:45 pm
by T3
boxxy is blatant town.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:47 pm
by T3
Seanzie isn't giving me the same vibe as newbie 2063.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:48 pm
by Seanzie
How so? Can you give me any reason to think so?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:51 pm
by T3
Roaming Detective is not a claim that comes from scum on the spot, especially newer scum.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:55 pm
by Seanzie
In post 1015, T3 wrote:
Roaming Detective is not a claim that comes from scum on the spot, especially newer scum.
Any reasonable scum team prepares fakeclaims in advance. Even if Boxxy is newer (is this true? I don't know anyone here, so idk how long Boxxy has been playing), one person on the scum team being not new would help the rest make sure they're reading for a claim situation.
Aside from the claim, is there any reason to think Boxxy is town? If it is there, I'd like to find it.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:04 pm
by Dwlee99
Gonna try to look over the ISOs when I get a time slot to focus on that sort of thing for an extended period of time @nom
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:14 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1015, T3 wrote:Roaming Detective is not a claim that comes from scum on the spot, especially newer scum.
What comes from scum on the spot, especially newer scum?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:19 pm
by Seanzie
Uhh... what are the rules on this site about mentioning things from ongoing games? Like, I know clearly people in those games can't talk about them directly, but if I have something that I just found in an ongoing game that is relevant to this game, can I share that?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:20 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1019, Seanzie wrote:Uhh... what are the rules on this site about mentioning things from ongoing games? Like, I know clearly people in those games can't talk about them directly, but if I have something that I just found in an ongoing game that is relevant to this game, can I share that?
No you can't do that.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:21 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
Seanzie is obvtown
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:21 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 1019, Seanzie wrote:Uhh... what are the rules on this site about mentioning things from ongoing games?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30908
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:21 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
I can't follow you with this one, nomnomnom
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:22 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
Gut is saying Seanzie is town right now