I will say one thing about Enchant's iso. He forgot Hectic in his list on who should be shot when Galron had the gun. I want to say that scum are probably more likely to forget a town name than a scum name on a list of players.
My solve still remains Hockey and Vulture today.
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:15 am
by HockeyFan
Vulutres logs on t3
Spoiler:
In post 256, Vulture wrote:(T3 isn't gonna have a good answer for you, Galron, because he's scum.)
Sring/throwing shade at a scum partner doesnt seem too likely this early on
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
For example. ^
Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".
Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.
Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies
This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
Calling vulture scum
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:16 am
by HockeyFan
This is why i dont think they're partners ftr. Also as for Enchant, Vulture didnt mention Enchant at all pretty much and I think scum buddies /want/ to interact with each other a bit
In post 996, HockeyFan wrote:Hi hello Sorry, Im here. I looked through Vultures iso in regards to t3/enchant and dont think they are partners
I don't know that anybody looks especially like partners with enchant. He's done scum that favor at least.
Meanwhile this is Hockey's second post in as many pages like he's forgotten about this game. Sounds disingenuous to me. The first time somebody asked him a question at least. This time it feels like "oof I'd better post something" but there's no substance here.
In post 997, marcistar wrote:im.. not sure... toogeloo could be town but im not confident in that...
hockey help me...
Still think they're town for tring hectic/luke cuz as scum, thats super bold
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
For example. ^
Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".
Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.
Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies
This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
Calling vulture scum
I don't think that anything in t3's iso would lead me to think he could not be partners with vulture. (You even completely missed where t3 called vulture town by meta....)
But I guess I looked more closely in t3's then in vultures...
I can see that looks less partnery. Unless the scum team was on board for a t3 bus
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:28 am
by Lukewarm
On board early I mean
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:50 am
by marcistar
bestie luke whos the scumteam
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:34 am
by Lukewarm
Toog is town town ready
I'm leaning town on pav as well.
So, I think they are both in (hectic, hockey, and vulture)
I'm less sure who is the most likely pair inside of that tho
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:38 am
by Lukewarm
If I had to choose one shot atm....
I don't know if I would shoot hectic or one of [hockey / vulture] tho.
Hectic is probably the best person of the three to have the gun if we shoot wrong, so maybe him just for that reason?
This was supposed to say "Toog is a town read" and like I know I'm phon roosting, but togg is town town ready is an odd way for that to end up. I kind of like it tho.
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
For example. ^
Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".
Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.
Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies
This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
Calling vulture scum
I don't think that anything in t3's iso would lead me to think he could not be partners with vulture. (You even completely missed where t3 called vulture town by meta....)
But I guess I looked more closely in t3's then in vultures...
I can see that looks less partnery. Unless the scum team was on board for a t3 bus
iirc, Vulture was the first /real/ push on t3, so idt he would even need to bus there
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:19 pm
by Pavowski
(town town ready is how I'm saying it at least for the rest of this game)
(I'm trying to avoid phon roosting myself)
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:01 pm
by marcistar
does everyne townread luke
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:06 pm
by Pavowski
No. I still think he leans scum, but a big part of that is I still think there's scum in (hectic, Luke) and I think hectic is more likely the TTR side of that
Hmph, Pav tring Hectic is intresting. Might make him more town lmao
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:13 am
by Pavowski
Who, me or Hectic?
I've been TRing that slot for a while, like since he and Luke were head-to-head. I just simultaneously think shooting him is not a bad idea, especially since we have misses to give and I think he *could* be fleecing me, though I kinda don't think he is.
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
For example. ^
Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".
Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.
Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies
This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
Calling vulture scum
The more that I think about this, the weirder it is that Hockey just left these posts out when he said he was putting interactions between the two
Spoiler:
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town
Lean town.
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
And then he characterizes this post as calling vulture scum. When what it really says is "IF art is scum, THEN vulture is scum"
Which looking at that post again, kind of does make hectic less likely to be scum.
