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[T3]

why do you two keep calling me manipulative

I believe the emotions you put into the thread are carefully curated to manipulate the people reading them and not geniune.

it’s just frustrating to be continually just blanketly called manipulative when it’s literally not what I’m doing

This reaction is genuine?

[T3]

Is the N_M a policy elimination, or is there more stuff like T3's vote which seems to have further justification?

My NM vote is like half policy and half shotgun meta.

[T3]

why are we fighting when we could be voting t3

seriously he's jumping on any viable vote with minimal explanation

#opportunismisnotascumtell

[T3]

Hi, I'm alive but hospitalized. I can play this game but not as much actively I normally play atm, sorry for that.

I read the game and think at least one scum is in this FoS list (in no particular order) of mine:

N_M
Mew
T3
CO
iv

N_M

's millar claim can be come from scum!him despite of not claiming millar before which I can't talk about rn.

The town!

CO

I saw is not similar here which I also can't talk about yet.

But I'll not touch them yet as I need to discuss about it which I can't atm.

Mew

and

iv

are playing very weirdly/open wolfingly. One have reads but not disclosing and the other is getting frustrated + their reads aren’t making sense to me that much. Overall, not my cup of tea! I've to sheep others for sorting them ig.

I can do

T3

rn ig... can't case them atm (as I'm gonna sleep early) but some posts were pinged me + my gut feeling is saying they rolled scum again.

UNVOTE: Aris

VOTE: T3

I hope you feel better soon.

Also I just remembered that NM claimed miller when reading this post so uh
UNVOTE: nm

[Dwlee99]

T3 I need a scum head on my desk by tomorrow night

[Aristeia]

in a nicer way (sorry) how is this advancing the game state forward other than just making each other more agitated?

how is it not advancing the game state for me to advocate for the elimination of someone I scumread for being super manipulative with his emotional output?

[innocentvillager]

I was referring to my back and forth with roden

but I don’t feel like I got anything out of that interaction and I feel like roden just tunneling me more/didn’t get AI material or thinks he got scum indicative materia because I got tilted again

i don’t see how that was a productive back and forth

separately I also don’t like how you are literally just ganging up with the IC on me on everything it feels like it’s literally just you two presenting the same arguments and problems vs me

it kind of feels a little pockety to me tbh/like you’re validating him

but you’re also so aggressive like idk if it comes from scum you this blatantly.

[innocentvillager]

Ari it’s not about “how dare you vote me”

Datisi knows me well and I initially took issue with the push reasoning and margot’s E1 was really harmful the other wagon votes are like whatever I would do that too I don’t see why those votes are scummy necessarily

I also don’t like how you are reducing my posting to just that piece it makes me think you stopped trying to read me after that one string of posts (and given that you’re ignoring me)

can you answer my question now? it’s in my iso twice

If Datisi knows you well then why are you surprised that he thinks you disappearing at the start of the game is scum!indicative? Is his meta on you inaccurate?


I like how dwlee's posting has depth that feels closer to his town game than his scum game. I also don't think scum!him would approach my slot by voteparking me because I don't think scum!him really wants to push town!me since he's played with me before.

I like Datisi's aggression, I think there's a confidence in his town!game that he can't quite replicate exactly in his scum!game - I don't think he's very good at faking conviction when he rolls red and I'd be pleasantly surprised if he was actually scum here.

Salsa just feels very town to me, her stream of consciousness posting feels real - the one game I've seen of hers where she's scum she is a lot more performative and fake sounding - here I think she is pursuing real thoughts.

i feel like ive talked about the first point plenty of times across my posts so i don't really want to respond again ping me again on something more specific if you are still left wanting

this all just seems like meta? are you like super familiar with all these players or something? your join date doesn't really suggest that you would be, are you an alt?

if this is all meta, then im not sure why you took so much issue with me having them in my "idk" tier, that's a little weird to me tbh

the only person i really have experience with here is Datisi and I kind of agree with the aggression thing anecdotally but idk i just always have Datisi paranoia because i haven't played with him in a while either and i know he puts more volume and takes this game more seriously than i do. i need to experience scum!datisi first hand again before i feel like i have a good idea of where his scumrange ends

can you respond to this? also dwlee seemed confused on how you knew his meta so if you could address that as well that would be helpful

[innocentvillager]

Datisi metaing MBOS is next on my list

on first glance it looks superficially similar but obviously i need to look into it more, if ur getting similar vibes maybe my tl on T3 weakens

[innocentvillager]

Mew and iv are playing very weirdly/open wolfingly. One have reads but not disclosing and the other is getting frustrated + their reads aren’t making sense to me that much. Overall, not my cup of tea! I've to sheep others for sorting them ig.

what reads are not making sense for you?

[innocentvillager]

you know you can engage me and mew too why are you sheeping others to sort us?

[Datisi]

their* meta

also iv since when do you do meta research? i lowkey cannot remember you doing that as either alignment

[innocentvillager]

OMG DWLEE im so sorry i suck

Datisi I’m not good at it but I use it as a tool to understand what is within someone scumrange usually and if I am townreading/scumreading them for playstyle thing. i don’t do it well idk but that’s in theory what I find it useful for. Also T3 is gaining popularity as a wagon so I’m prioritizing looking at that slot if my townlean is right or wrong

[innocentvillager]

Datisi this is honestly just for my sanity can you give quick thoughts on me/roden/aris interactions I don’t know if I’m in the wrong here and idk if I should be worried aris is ganging up on me with roden or not

[Datisi]

i mostly skimmed through it because it didn't really seem productive - looking back now, i don't agree with ari's take that you're being like, carefully manipulative or whatever, but her play otherwise vaguely reminds me of 2226 (and i'm still unsure if i have a solid townread on you) that i didn't feel a need to interfere

[Datisi]

i don't know, i don't really townread her either, my reads are fucked rn

[innocentvillager]

ok thanks for validating me daddisi

[datsi]

Also I just remembered that NM claimed miller when reading this post so uh
UNVOTE: nm

I’m aware he claimed Miller too, why do you think scum!nm wouldn’t do that?

[T3]

Also I just remembered that NM claimed miller when reading this post so uh
UNVOTE: nm

I’m aware he claimed Miller too, why do you think scum!nm wouldn’t do that?

He hasn't before

[Aristeia]

i mostly skimmed through it because it didn't really seem productive - looking back now, i don't agree with ari's take that you're being like, carefully manipulative or whatever, but her play otherwise vaguely reminds me of 2226 (and i'm still unsure if i have a solid townread on you) that i didn't feel a need to interfere

I don't even have words for how tragic this is.

[Aristeia]

I was referring to my back and forth with roden

but I don’t feel like I got anything out of that interaction and I feel like roden just tunneling me more/didn’t get AI material or thinks he got scum indicative materia because I got tilted again

i don’t see how that was a productive back and forth

separately I also don’t like how you are literally just ganging up with the IC on me on everything it feels like it’s literally just you two presenting the same arguments and problems vs me

it kind of feels a little pockety to me tbh/like you’re validating him

but you’re also so aggressive like idk if it comes from scum you this blatantly.

I am presenting my interpretation of your play to the people who are not voting you.

If they choose to ignore me and let you skate by and you end up winning as scum then I can say I did my best.

I'm not here to convince you that you're scum.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

On Kyouko, I read what you wrote on them and I largely agree if that makes sense. I don't know if my townreads exactly lines up in the realm of things scum!Kyouko wouldn't do and I want to relook my read there at some point, maybe even D1 if you're specifically looking there for potential scum.

i don't think there's any pressure/hurry to do this, but if you've got free time to invest in the game, this might be a good idea. i don't wanna push kyouko because of two reasons (1) derp on ic (2) most people seemed to townread her and claim that she has polarizing play, and they seem to know better than me. otherwise, i'm really not impressed with her slot i guess... i would like her to adress my 629? (*cough* @kyo)

catching up atm. I don't have anything helpful to say in response to 629. I read it, it seems you disagree with the conclusion I drew from metaing Mewtaph. I read why you disagree and I dont agree with your reasoning, and was leaving it at that.

[Roden]

Here's where I'm at. I have a read on Mewtaph, Datsi and InnocentVillager at the moment. How do you feel about those slots Roden?

Datsi is Null, he's playing different from what I've seen in his town games but nothing stands out as particularly scummy.

Mew and IV are lock town. By claiming my scum read on them is damaging to their mental health, I don't really have a choice but to assume they're town. If they flip scum in the end then I'll just black list them, I don't have any tolerance for people who would lie about something as serious as that just to avoid losing a game.

[Aristeia]

I don't think either of them have claimed being scum read is damaging to their mental health and the line of thought is dangerously close to making this game unplayable

[Aristeia]

like honestly this game is not playable if every town player says "you can't suspect me because I can't handle being scumread for mental health reasons." and scum are what, not allowed to say that because they'll be ostracized and blacklisted?

that's not even a mafia game.