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[Milobird]

But enough about that.
Have at thee.
Also, I think I answered most of the questions Sircakez asked.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you still have fewer posts than me on a per player basis tho :3

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. My posting rate took a dive off a steep cliff after job get.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I am relaxed? Sometimes I can be a bit dense, like a brick.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not I think. I'm pretty aware of my own emotions because I have to keep track of those.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I’m good at convincing people when I want to I just genuinely didn’t feel the need to steer the ship early on and then I got ignored late



Mastina clearly forgets who got elected first in FGO

[Milobird]

Yup. That makes sense.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There is no wifom, It's just Pooky.
Killing you and letting Mastina do her own thing for victory is really all you need to know. There's zero reason for us to kill her.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There's no purpose for us to gambit here. No reason that makes sense.
Pooky will come in here and say it makes sense when he twists himself into knots, but nah.
It's just Pooky.

Also, I told you guys it was Pooky.

-Bell

[Milobird]

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Gunna be sad if FB threw but meh. Can't help that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I called this overnight I'm not reading into it at all because either of you could have done it

Okay Sircakez.
We need to talk about your tendency to ignore valid information for literally no reason. It's making you into the worst scum hunter.

-Bell

[Milobird]

How many times have you decided to invalidate key information?
I'm not gunna read Ralts, I'm not gunna read into night kills, I'm not X, I'm not gunna Y. I'm not gunna Z.
Why don't you just say that you're not gunna read or register any information the game gives you and be done with it?
You're being silly.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Well see, you didn't hammer so I guess I know now that you aren't scum for sure and that FB didn't lie about their result. Sometimes I genuinely wondered.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Everything in your ISO screamed to me that you are the scum here
I need to read the Pooky ISO

...............................................................................................................................................................................

Lol.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Cakez we literally have an easier time convincing mastina gere

You are CONFIRMED TOWN

And were brought to MELO over someone who wasn’t

Get your head out your ass. Pooky is fucking Picasso in a PT. You got snowed. It’s cool. Now’s the time to prove me wrong.

[Milobird]

Yes, it was a real unexpected kill, but it had to be done because the game would have been too easy otherwise.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There is no wifom, It's just Pooky.
Killing you and letting Mastina do her own thing for victory is really all you need to know. There's zero reason for us to kill her.

-Bell

yea like mastina wouldnt see the cakes kill and maybe change her mind? this is just not true

Lmao, yeah Cakez dying wouldn't changed her mind.
Says the guy who said in this very game that Mastina never changes her mind.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Just hammer the Bear and let's go eat a burger.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Like the case of Milo killing mastina means we want to somehow make our already difficult job of surviving as sole scum that much harder because you’ve been letting Pooky spoon feed you whatever expired food he has in his fridge

[Milobird]

what r u even talking about mastina literally changed her mind between me/you from d8->d9. why wouldnt she change her mind again if she gets brought to elo ?

There are a million reasons why it was different and you fucking know that.
Why would anyone, ever, in a million years trade concrete information for maybes and could bes?

-Bell

[Milobird]

Tempted to let my gut go wild and just hammer right now instead of dragging this out anymore

Just hammer Pooky, jesus christ. Everyone but you thought it was him.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Titus doesn't count she sucks.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I wonder how many pages of dead PT is Koba yelling

For fucks sake I’m agreeing with Koba I never agree with fucking Koba

[Milobird]

Yes. I am going to say that because Sircakez is annoying to deal with and by god if I could have shot him I would have.
I fucking swear.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Already said you were gunna say that, you're hiding behind wifom and projecting, hard.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Like this shit? You expect bell and I to be playing out of our minds this game but we wouldn’t anticipate your CONTINUED refusal to consider Pooky as scum?

Like, Jesus Christ

[Milobird]

Where did bell misrepresent anything from day one?

[Milobird]

At least fucking mastina was willing to consider it

Like read the ducking room dude. You know you were brought to mylo and you know exactly why you were.

Ninja-
I want you to show me where he lied about day one because you explicitly said he did.

[Milobird]

he literally lied about voting me d8

Does this make any sense to you Sircakez? At all?
I lied about forgetting I voted him? this is something a sane person latches unto when they're interested in the truth? His focus is not anywhere.
He has no solve and hasn't been solving the entire game.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The simplest explanation is that Pooky shot Mastina because she was going to vote him.
You do not need to read into this further.
I do not do trick shots.

-Bell

[Milobird]

It’s not science?

[Milobird]

You’re a towel

And even though youre scum this game were still maties

But ya boi is going to get flamed

[Milobird]

If only there was a way to look back at day one and see what actually happened, hmmmm

I mean you can make up whatever bullshit you want about any Ralts post

and I literally can't say "here's what actually happened"

cuz I'm not him.

That's why you're targetting Ralts instead of me.

It's pretty slick move no doubt.

I’m more addressing the whole “no one remembers what happened day one” aspect of your post

It’s easily readable, and discrepancies should be easy to point out if it’s manufactured

the day happened over a month ago.

nobody remembers it like it happened.

you can cherry pick things out of context and create any narrative you want about any ralts post

I can't refute any of it because I'm literally not him

so I don't have the memories available to refute any of it.

I already pointed out the very foundation of your case is a lie lol

[Milobird]

Idk if he is scum graduating killing the person leaning towards a you vote seems p troll tbh

[Milobird]

After you, of course

And it’s a pretty bold claim to assume I’m anywhere near Peta caliber, which is weird because I’d have to be in order to train bell to that level?

[Milobird]

@cakez am I Peta caliber scum.

Yes or no.

[Milobird]

This is PAINFUL for me

Kill Pooky. This is painfully clear.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There is literally no reason for us to style on you Sircakez.
Pooky's argument is that Mastina might have changed her mind.
When you were right in front of them posting that it's Milobird.
Do you think I'm blind?

-Bell

[Milobird]

@cakez am I Peta caliber scum.

Yes or no.

Probably not but no one is really

So you think those of us not on his caliber made a kill in the same mentality as him? Because that’s what Pooky is saying.

[Milobird]

DO YOU THINK I'M UNABLE TO READ OR SOMETHING?

JUST KILL HIM, JESUS.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you dont have to be michael jordan to shoot a free throw

you dont have to be peta level scum to make a wifom nightkill.

Literally no point in this and no advantage to this whatsoever.

-Bell

[Milobird]

No, we said it was dumb because it is. You said it’s Peta strat to. I said that doesn’t make sense because we aren’t Peta level scum.

He can literally reread the interaction.

[Milobird]

It’s not smart.

I’m refuting your argument is all

[Milobird]

they cant even keep their lies straight anymore they r just spamming to pressure you to vote wrong

Pooky wants to sing you a lullaby before knifing you in the back.

I'm shouting Knife.

I just solved the game for you Sircakez.

[Milobird]

WHO CARES

Pick a god and pray stop wasting our lives on this godforsaken game

[Milobird]

What’s your scum W/R this year bear

Alts included

[Milobird]

There are many, many extremely sple reasons it's Pooky this game.

1. Ralts repped out.
2. All of his scum partners avoided him.
3. Pooky has motive to shoot his own partner.
4. Pooky is terminally lazy when he's scum.
5. Imaginality gift wrapped the scum team to you and Dwlee lost control of his shit for a microsecond and gave the game away even harder.
6. Pooky continues to be a siren song, someone who tells you what you want to hear, someone who is not, in anyway going to challenge you least he gets on your bad side. There is a clear motivation to curry favor with you. there is a clear explanation for his favor.
7. Everybody else is solving/hesitating, but Pooky who is the odd bear out. No hesitation, his argument was that he already solved invisibly and therefore he never had to solve in the first place. He has multiple times lied or isrepresentented others.
8. His arguments are terrible. His logic is broken. He's projecting hard.
9. We never shoot Mastina with her end of day posts.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Wanna know my scum win rate.

-Bell

[Milobird]

@cakez ask Pooky his scum win rate including alts

[Milobird]

It's very high.
It's 1 marathon game and that's it since I've been back.
I've won one game as scum, total. And it was a marathon. It was great, but yeah.
No, I can't even imagine where anyone could conceive of this.
It should be noted Mastina only ever considered us as a possibility because Pooky shot Gyphx.
They would otherwise say it's obviously Pooky. that one point of data is being weighed appropriately but it does not make up for 1000 posts from a player that has a playstyle that tries to get town read as town and has a very different scum game to town game.

Are you using a gambler's fallacy Pooky. "I'm due" like the odds aren't in the houses favor.

Didn't sircakez also say he was going to ignore our back and forths and my solves because elo posts were meaningless last day phase.
and I still kept posting. I guess to convince Mastina who I just killed in scum Bell world.

Literally the only one that was responding or reading my cases was the one I just shot according to Pooky.
Does that trejectory make any sense?
Hello?
-Bell

[Milobird]

I am trying to get him to adequately estimate your capabilities.

Don’t dodge the question, I don’t want to waste my homework time doing that research. But I will.

[Milobird]

Cakez, it’s a simple question and he’s deflecting it.

Like he’s done when I asked about bell lying on day one.

Come on dude.

[Milobird]

1. Nope.
2. Nope.
3. You've wanted to shoot someone a scum pal for forever, that time is now.
4. Nah.
5. Nah. Dwlee was mad that he was wrapping them in a note, you're trying to side with Sircakez argument because you're probing for that weakness and his own self-doubt.
6. Town Pooky is not frictionless glass. They have opinions, someting you don't have this game. Here you just say "I have faith in you bro, Sis whatever comes comes" when in fact you'd care more which direction the game swings especially at the end than you have here.
7. You know I'm town and that you're scum, which is why you did not have to think.
8. K.
9. Lol. If wifom is the only argument you have here, that in itself is a scum claim.

-Bell

[Milobird]

And again, I state, it makes him ACCURATELY ESTIMATE your skill level.

I’ll go do some perusing later.

[Milobird]

like you contradict yourself

this is just desperate hurl kitchen sink at the wall level nonsense

The argument, that I would let Sircakez live after being hard on him all game is insane.
Like, that's pretty much a scum slip right there. There's a level of depth that is missing from Pooky in this game. That would be present here if he were town.
He has multiple posts taking you aside designed explicitly to manipulate you emotionally by holding your hand and telling you it's okay.
But the only reason it's okay is because he's scum and he has one single goal this game.
Which is fooling you. That was his win condition. You're alive because Mastina was not going to let him live.
He killed her instead of the confirmed town.

Not weighing that night kill is malpractice.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Can I just say how utterly insane it would be for me to let Sircakez live here.
Like there are so many deal breakers for me to let him live here it's not even funny. He pissed me off multiple times by deliberately ignoring in game information, conf biasing, calling me scum etc.
I hate being called scum even when I'm scum.

And Pooky's argument is that Mastina could have changed her mind?
Rly? Is that a real thing he thinks? Is that a real thing a real person would think?
Is it real?

Nope. It's just a lie.

-Bell

[Milobird]

i didnt think you had it in you to shoot mastina >.>

There's no purpose for us to gambit here. No reason that makes sense.
Pooky will come in here and say it makes sense when he twists himself into knots, but nah.
It's just Pooky.

Also, I told you guys it was Pooky.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I've put in a ludicrous amount of time and effort into showing you guys it wasn't me. At least trust that I wouldn't have made all those posts when absolutely nobody but Mastina was listening and then kill Mastina, the one player who fucking listened.
Pooky's argument for the Mastina kill is objectively insane and if anyone says "Durr hurr it could be either or, either could have made that kill" I'll be utterly dumb founded.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Confirm town is alive. You're the designated sucker Sircakez. You've been it since day 1.
Admit it and don't be one and kill Pooky.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I would prefer not to be paranoia elimmed at the last moment for townloss cuz that would suck

like I dont get how my meta is so obviously anti-bus but people still murder me anyway lol

This is a blatant strawman. Nobody is paranoia eliminating you. Cases have been made, thoughts have gone down.
The only player that could be fairly characterized as paranoid of you is STD. The rest had cases, arguments and put thoughts down to the effect of "it's Pooky"

-Bell

[Milobird]

At the last moment = 10 days of elo.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you literally asked me what my scum win rate is.

that is the definition of trying to create a paranoia elim

It wasn't me, and I consider it a Wisdom argument.
I.e., if Wisdom makes it to elo, they're always scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Though I'd argue that isn't true for you, you do get miselimmed while Wisdom is actively a pain in the ass when he's town for the scum team. You're more up and down. It depends on the accuracy of your reads.

But nah, you're not a paranoia elim. There's a clear path that scum you took.

-Bell

[Milobird]

every nightkill has been on conftown or investigative so that argument is kind of a load of crap

Yes, it's almost like you didn't have much choice in who to kill until now.
and when that choice presented itself you shot the person scum reading you!
Fascinating.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There are a lot of neon signs pointing at Pookythemagicalbear for that night kill. This remains fairly simple.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The argument also has to do with my proficiency,
I am not good scum. I do not improve leaps and bounds in a single game.
You have a long history of being able to fool people.
If people think my posts are townie it's probably because I'm town.
If people think your posts are townie it's probably because you want them to think that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The argument also has to do with my proficiency,
I am not good scum. I do not improve leaps and bounds in a single game.
You have a long history of being able to fool people.
If people think my posts are townie it's probably because I'm town.
If people think your posts are townie it's probably because you want them to think that.

-Bell

Mastina already explained the discrepancy in that you should have exhibited significantly more uncertainty if you were town, because I am obvtown as town. Which I was and you made clear I was until suddenly I was not and Mastina noticed that your trajectory sucked and how you shifted your read also sucked.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

I am alive because you decided it would be easier to 1v1 with me than Mastina since nobody is willing to vote for Mastina.

Mastina is dead because you decided that's the nightkill Pooky!scum would make and you think it will get Cakes to flip on me.

You were also worried she would change her mind yet again.

Cakes is alive because you think you can get him to flip on me and the pressure is starting to get to him.

You are alive because you don't want to shoot yourself.

Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

[Milobird]

You managed to get to day 10 of a large theme without being investigated, or eliminated by puffing up your chest and insisting you can't be scum with self-meta and nonsense.

You are one misvote away from winning and getting out of bad scum jail forever.

I am rooting for you.

I'd say you did alright homie.

You keep vacilitating between that I'm playing awesome this game and that I'm merely doing okay depending on which narrative serves you better in the moment.
You weren't complimenting me at all through my 20 hour case and only started to compliment me at the end of that day phase because you ran out of tasks to do that didn't involve you having to fake solve.
So you went with tone and hoping Sircakez would notice.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

If you kill Mastina you freeze her reads and get to use her as a martyr to make the case to Cakes that Pooky is the scum.


If you kill Cakes, I can say to Mastina that the nightkill implicates you and she might readflip back from leaning me to leaning you.



It's a gamble but if Cakes votes me then it's well worth it.

Yes, you could've said that to Mastina and I'm sure she would have been like "yes, that makes sense you're right Pooky"
and then she voted us and won the game for town and there was a fairy and a unicorn in there somewhere too.

[Milobird]

You remain incapable of a constructing a reasonable argument for why Mastina is dead and not Sircakez, who was cleared. There is a simple lack of clear in depth reasoning that a more focused town Pooky would have had available to make a less generic argument.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Notty does not think he will change his mind.
I don't know, but I will keep trying.


I do also want to note that Pooky intentionally makes unsound arguments as scum because he thinks if he applied his brain to his arguments he would come off as too polished and prepared.
I have no idea what his posts look like to everyone else, but to me they are exactly that.

pedit: Let me know when contradictions are scummy. You know better that they're not. And it's not even a contradiction because Mastina and Sircakez are not the same person *psyduck*

[Milobird]

Your own characterization of Mastina as stubborn directly points to you being the one who killed her.
Sircakez provided no percentage, SO WHY WOULD I DO THAT.
and also, do you think Mastina is actually just going to roll a dice and decide on it based on whether she rolls 41 or above.
The % is rhetorical. You're intentionally literalizing her, when we both know she has no system in place that actually uses any numbers whatsoever in her scum hunting. She also was trying to defend her ego no mtter which way the cookie crumbled. Which is an excellent strategy that I endorse. Because I do it.

-Bell

[Milobird]

No it's pretty damning when a confirm town lives over a non-confirm town.
You can keep pretending that there is no difference between a cleared and non-cleared player.

But, lol. I'd say that argument is not going to work, but now I sound like Koba and he died.
Thankfully I never self-vote so I won't do what he did and just keep going until Sircakez gets it or he messes up. Either or.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Mastina has me at 9% lean over you for scum

Sir Cakes scumreads you and wants to kill you.

We go into night.

Sir Cakes gets shot in the face and dies.

Do you really think at that point Mastina is going to not re-evaluate and maybe change her mind and decide to vote for you?

I fully expect that she would have done more due diligence and examined her own arguments and thoughts while discussing her reads and asking people about stuff as she narrowed in to what her choice would ultimately be.
I also know that she would have steam rolled past your objections as she had already done repeatedly to your objections last day phase. Once Mastina latches unto something she is difficult to fool just using arguments, something I learned from flavorleaf versus Pooky. Because once she caught me she simply didn't let go without me giving her something I couldn't give (i.e., real solving perspective) and no amount of AtE or gotcha's would dissuade her.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're in the same position I was, where you just can't fake solve.
Which is why you murdered her.

-Bell

[Milobird]

is there an answer in that paragraph cuz i asked you a yes or no question

I am an ocean and you are a puddle.
She would have re-evaluated and then voted you because you wouldn't have been able to change her mind.

-Bell

[Milobird]

its a 1v1 wtf am i even going to solve for

Uh our play? So that you can show Sircakez that we're scum?

lol.

[Milobird]

ooh i see

so a nightkill on SirCakes is not damning evidence to Mastina that Bell is scum

but a nightkill on Mastina is damning evidence to Cakes that Pooky is scum.

FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS

Yes, because they're not the same and you continue to conflate the two people badly because it's inconvenient and difficult to have a nuanced view on anything when you're scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There is a glaring issue with time in this Pooky's response to me.
Can you spot where he never tried to solve and waited 8 days for Sircakez to post in elo?

Let me give you a pictorial example:

[Milobird]

I hope this helped.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Sircakez expressed uncertainty and instead of going back and trying to help him.
You basically pat his head and say you believed in him then proceeded to do nothing for 9 days until he finally found some time for himself and are now hiding behind that the reason you didn't bother showing him why we were scum
is because he went and did it himself.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I think you are focusing on something easier to deal with than the point I'm making.

-Bell

[Milobird]

solving implies you don't know what the solution is

I am town

I know I am town because that's in my role PM.

I am in a 1v1 with you, the last possible mafia player remaining.

I do not need to pretend to "solve" and figure out who the baddie is.

I let Cakes do it himself because it's better to let people make up their own minds rather than have the ideas put into their head from someone who is self-interested.

Cakes can't trust a solve coming from me because from his point of view it's possible that I am scum giving him a fake narrative and trying to influence him.

Cakes doing it himself gives him the ability to look at your iso objectively without my commentary possibly influencing him.

I've killed you 6 times now.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm just going to keep killing you.

*keyboard warrior WIM activate*

I have to hold unto the Sircakez wheel because they're actively biased towards us, have said so themselves, I'm invested in the outcome and want to win and I have faith that if I point out the truth Sircakez can see it. Yet another reason there is no reason he would be alive if we were scum. I would be actively making the game more difficult for myself. This is also an argument I made for Mastina town yesterday because *she* was making it actively harder on herself by weighing and posting stuff when she could have just let you lose the game for town.

If you have two people arguing for something, you hope that your judgment will allow you to figure out which one is telling the truth. Me pointing to Sircakez and trying to convince him to vote Pooky scum.

We've already gone over that your hope is that if you leave Sircakez alone while we continually badger him that he'll just slip on you and kill us out of sheer annoyance and exasperation. Something I hope he will not do because that would be a misplay.

[Milobird]

It's still bad that Mastina is dead when mechanically cleared Sircakez is not. That the argument Pooky is making is one based on the possibility of Mastina reversing course when another player was actively annoying us with how dense they were being.
It's still bad that Pooky is saying that actually it was his plan all along not to help Sircakez solve. Or share his perspective to make it easier for him to solve.

Pooky is correct that, psychologically speaking a person that does their own work believes more in what their work is saying and people have a tendency to rebuff being told what to do.
This is true. But their work doesn't have to be right.
It suits Pooky that he let you reach the wrong conclusion yourself because you're more likely to believe your own farts than another player who has constructed golden farts that contain the truth for your perusal.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you write a lot of words but they don't actually mean anything

you're basically just repeating "i am town" over and over again

which is kind of impressive because you got to day 10 with this shtick.

Yeah, this isn't true. There's a fuck load of nuance, complexity and improvisation in my posts made in real time. Something incredibly difficult for scum me to pull off.

-Bell

[Milobird]

20% of your posting today is some kind of logical fallacy

when you get called out on it, you just kind deflect/stop talking that specific line.

20% of your posting is AtE and trying to get Cakes to vote me

60% of your posting is just "I am town"

none of it is very convincing.

I feel like your plan is to just spam Cakes into not caring anymore so he just votes me? I guess that is a decent plan, might even work!

Nah, I responded to your posts and arguments. You saying I haven't doesn't mean it's true especially when the text of me responding to you is...
there for everyone to see?

-Bell

[Milobird]

Pooky is correct that, psychologically speaking a person that does their own work believes more in what their work is saying and people have a tendency to rebuff being told what to do.
This is true. But their work doesn't have to be right.
It suits Pooky that he let you reach the wrong conclusion yourself because you're more likely to believe your own farts than another player who has constructed golden farts that contain the truth for your perusal.

You are conveniently leaving out the fact that I have no way of knowing what conclusion Sir Cakes would reach.

You are pretending that I would somehow know that Sir Cakes would scumread you if he read your ISO himself, which is something I can't know because I'm not a psychic or a time traveler.

Um. Are you saying that you haven't been trying to Pocket Sircakez all game and don't have a clear trajectory of what Sircakez himself has said repeatedly in thread about where his initial impressions were, who he suspected (milo, milo, milo) and only after an avalanche of posts from me shifted even a tiny bit only to whip back like a rubber band at the first sign he could be right.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Sircakez was insufferable to us this game and continued to be insufferable and annoying all the way up to and including this day phase.
Your argument that we banked on Mastina changing her mind and so let Sircakez live instead is
W
I
L
D
and explicitly a scum you only argument.
-Bell

[Milobird]

I really shouldn't have to repeat this.

The argument Pooky is making for Sircakez being alive is a scum claim. I'm not even unaware of the psychology that Pooky is talking about and yet we still chose to let him live over Mastina.

-Bell

[Milobird]

He is in knots.
He is a contortionist.
He is a fun house mirror.

Search your feelings/reading comprehension, you know it to be true.

-Bell

[Milobird]

20% of your posting today is some kind of logical fallacy

when you get called out on it, you just kind deflect/stop talking that specific line.

20% of your posting is AtE and trying to get Cakes to vote me

60% of your posting is just "I am town"

none of it is very convincing.

I feel like your plan is to just spam Cakes into not caring anymore so he just votes me? I guess that is a decent plan, might even work!

Nah, I responded to your posts and arguments. You saying I haven't doesn't mean it's true especially when the text of me responding to you is...
there for everyone to see?

-Bell

I didn't say you didn't respond.

You said I deflected/stopped talking about the points you made when I had not. I stopped talking about them after I addressed them while also asserting my own view.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.

It's called predicting behavior based on a statistical model.
How many times has Sircakez called you town.
How many times has sircakez called us scum or said they suspected us?

You need not be a time traveler or psychic. You're using a rhetorical strategy to make the claim seem absurd, when the claim you're making is actually absurd. That you would need to be either a time traveler or a psychic to know that when you drop a stone on planet earth it falls.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you are saying this argument comes ONLY from scum pooky.

so what would town pooky be doing instead?

I have no idea because Sircakez would be dead and we'd be playing with Mastina instead if you were town right now.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Town Pooky would have been solving and trying to convince Sircakez that we're scum with a case. Town Pooky can put in effort to solve when he wants to.
How you would approach a Mastina kill is near unfathomable to me, I would assume you would just be in shock wondering why the fuck we misplayed so bad. Probably would have dunked on us a lot for fucking up.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm saying I don't know what Sir Cakes would think if he opened up your iso and read it because I'm neither a psychic nor a time traveler.

It's called predicting behavior based on a statistical model.
How many times has Sircakez called you town.
How many times has sircakez called us scum or said they suspected us?

You need not be a time traveler or psychic. You're using a rhetorical strategy to make the claim seem absurd, when the claim you're making is actually absurd. That you would need to be either a time traveler or a psychic to know that when you drop a stone on planet earth it falls.

-Bell

Imagine thinking Cakes scumreading you is the same thing as the law of gravity

w i l d

Another example of Pooky focusing on the wrong thing to avoid talking about the harder thing.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Sircakez.
Kill the Pocketing Teddy bear.

Do it

Do it and feel good about your life.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Lol, there is literally no townie reason to post that in your PT.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Lol, there is literally no townie reason to post that in your PT.

-Bell

I asked Cakes a question in the PT because you are spamming machine and I didn't want him to miss it

*shrug* you’re still scum and I’m all posted out.
It’s not like there isn’t a boat load mistakes we’ve made to make a case from. The fact it took you this long should say enough.

-Bell

[Milobird]

yea it says I haven't really cared much cuz I'm town

Please hammer this.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Nobody says this in elo. It’s a blatant lie. Pooky gets the jitters when he’s town in these situations.
Here he doesn’t got any.

-Bell

[Milobird]

yea I'd have the jitters in elo if i had to pick between 2 people to vote

I kind of don't so why would I have jitters?

ugh you can call me an idiot in the postgame if this is wrong but I'm very vulnerable to AtE and Alter Ego just wants it so much more

VOTE: Assassin

I think I've lost a year of my life thinking about this game

@Lancer I'm fine if you want to deadlock this vote 2-2 and punt for lylo tomm

one of us is going to get nightkilled and maybe that information is useful somehow

-Bell

[Milobird]

You would care if you were town. I have no idea why you're insisting you don't.

-Bell

[Milobird]

and look the nightkill that game was a wifom one!!!!!!!!!

Sigh. Please kill him. Sircakez.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Should I go back to solving?
Is it really too fucking close to call?

-Bell

[Milobird]

That's right Sircakez,
it's up to you. You're the hero. Pooky has your back (there's a knife in it).

-Bell

[Milobird]

Please vote the magical bear so I can concentrate on my job tomorrow.
I'm still dumb founded Pooky hasn't been solved for yet given our relative ranges and levels of skill as town and scum respectively.

-bell

[Milobird]

I'm literally an ice bird on mount everest where all my scum games freeze to death.

And Pooky is at the base of the mountain saying he's gunna get a case up, just one sec.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You don't really seem to understand how responsibility works Bell,

I am not responsible for town winning or losing this game.

Sir Cakes is...

He is the one with the jitters because he is the one who has to make the decision.

You're feeling the stress because you're the last mafia and all of the scum team's hopes rest on you.

They have for quite a while, you've had to survive for a long time and you can kind of see the exit now that you are so very close.

You're projecting that mindset onto me because you think I share the same point of view as you only flipped.

However you're quite wrong, it's not me who is responsible for my team's victory, that duty is on Sir Cakes.

Lmao, like I'd give a shit.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I wouldn't be able to function if I were scum.
I'm functional here. /end.

[Milobird]

See now you're trying to adopt my mindset and claim you wouldn't give a shit....

Just last page you were saying town should have jitters...

Funny how that works enh?

I meant, I would not care even a little bit about my scum team if I were scum here and I would not feel even slightly responsible for how the game went.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm here because I'm town and my ego is riding on this. I have an unbroken record that I would like to maintain.

Also, I'm glad you're scum here.

Nah, if I were scum it would be Mastina in the driver seat and I would be feeling a hell of a lot more secure.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not going to be like Koba and get owned by a stuffed animal.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Mastina's still dead and you're still obvious scum because I would never willingly give myself a stroke by letting Sircakez live.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not a masochist.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also I can hear ya'll in the dead thread and no. My argument is fine and how I'm arguing is fine.
It's a mystery why Sircakez hasn't hammered yet,
except the mystery is solved because he is alive for that single reason.
He can't hammer pooky because he's pocketed.
Notty got all depressed about it last day phase.
and I was like "Nah uh, fuck that, I can convince water to flow in reverse, I am obvtown"
and now I am asking you a question Sircakez.
Can you flow in reverse, please?

Because while there's no universe in which I would gamble on that for the wifom lolz.
There are lots of universes where Pooky is scum and this is one of them.
Be a hero.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Kill him. his health bar is red. Which is also the color of his role PM.
Last post before I chill for the night.

Maybe.
I can stop posting whenever I want *hick*

-Bell

[Milobird]

You don't really seem to understand how responsibility works Bell,

I am not responsible for town winning or losing this game.

Sir Cakes is...

He is the one with the jitters because he is the one who has to make the decision.

You're feeling the stress because you're the last mafia and all of the scum team's hopes rest on you.

They have for quite a while, you've had to survive for a long time and you can kind of see the exit now that you are so very close.

You're projecting that mindset onto me because you think I share the same point of view as you only flipped.

However you're quite wrong, it's not me who is responsible for my team's victory, that duty is on Sir Cakes.

Hey Pooky I wouldn’t put your lips there you know that’s where poop comes from right

[Milobird]

Bell literally putting the shit in shitposting

That was Notty.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Bell literally putting the shit in shitposting

Well clearly you don’t mind the taste given how long your lips have been glued to cakez ass!

[Milobird]

Mine

-Bell

[Milobird]

*Game face*

Spoiler:

Hammer scum Pooky for the love of God.

[Milobird]

You're trolling me. Why else would you mention us both in that post.
Stop trying to annoy me and vote yourself and wave the red flag of surrender.

-Bell

[Milobird]

We have you surrounded with a bajillion posts.
come out with your hands where we can see them, your reign of tyranny is over.
Drop the knife Teddy.
No, he's got a gun!
*shoots*
Pooky flips red.
Milobird sits sadly over his scum grave and wonders what life is all about.
Roll credits.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I’ll drop it, and I was calling you an ass kisser not a shit eater so apologies if it came across as the latter

[Milobird]

I'm like 90% ready to make a decision here

Cool. Uh. What should I be doing here so that you vote Pooky resulting in a town victory?

-Bell

[Milobird]

lol.
What a terrible argument.
I said I would be sad if firebringer threw by gambiting and lying about who they visited. I'm also endlessly paranoid and hesitated a lot.
As evidenced by all of my posts in this game and previous games. My play is in line with that hesitation, back and forth, and "my fake suspicion of Mastina"
that you've been peddling for days. Suddenly I'm not paranoid enough.

You should even know this given that you've convinced players to do some incredibly anti-town things before, such as Alisae claiming you were lovers. In that game I forgot the name of. Smoke filled chambers.
I can play with certainty while also acknowledging that I could get fucked by others. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

This is just Bell negging Sir Cakes and loudly proclaiming that if SC doesn't vote for Pooky he is a "bad player"

He claims SC is "invalidating key information" when he doesn't consider things.

However is Bell actually considering Sir Cakes Points?

Nope! He just handwaves it all and says "you're a bad player for not listening to me".

SC has pointed out that Bell's ISO screams that he's the scum here and instead of trying to talk with Sir Cakes about what SC finds incriminating, all Bell can do is hand wave it and neg cakes and proclaim that he is not reading or processing information....

This is a classic scum defense technique where information that hurts your position is just treated with hand-waving, insults and disdain.

Instead of actually addressing the issues SC has with his ISO, he just claims SC is being silly and ridiculous..

Why would I talk with Sircakez about what he finds incriminating when none of it is incriminating because I'm town
Don't answer that.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, it's bad play to ignore alignment indicative information.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you literally said 3 minutes b4 ur paranoia post on SC that you were 10000% sure its pooky its just pooky I told you all its pooky

Yo. I just answered this. I said I can acknowledge other people misplaying, in most realities you're likely scum.
In one or two realities Sircakez is having a laugh and shooting the shit with the mod about how we're both 1v1ing each other.
I acted on the highest probability: that FB did not lie about their investigation and that it was just you.

This makes perfect sense and you're trying to make it out to as not making sense.
You're just aiming for the lowest hanging contradictions you can find and they're not even contradictions, you just have chosen to have a reading depth of -4 ft (you're in the air).

-Bell

[Milobird]

you can't address any of SirCakes accusations because you know you're guilty and don't have an actual explanation.

So all you can do is neg, handwave and insult his playing ability to try to make him feel bad for suspecting you.

Every single thing you have accused me of today I have been happy to respond to and show to be complete garbage because I'm town and I have nothing to hide.

I can easily answer all of his accusations by pointing out that town say dumb/wrong/annoying stuff all the time.
A reminder that Koba fucked up repeatedly and just kept on trucking and eventually he found Pooky scum. So he gets points for that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

^

See above

Bell discrediting Titus and saying she sucks for not thinking it's Pooky.

There is a pattern here where Bell just insults anyone who thinks it could be him as either "scum" or "a bad player"

He can't actually defend his own play on its merits because he knows he's scum so he has to resort to insulting people who think he's scum or OMGUSing.

Since he can't OMGUS SC or Titus as they r conftown, he just claims they suck instead.

Titus does not address this post because she knows my opinion of her accuracy is approximately equal to random chance. If I were someone else, she would have objections. But I've brought it up here and repeatedly in previous games.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I actually didn't discredit her because I did not make the argument that she sucks. Merely stated she does suck.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Pooky is polite scum.
I helped solve for Pooky again. Look at him, fixated on etiquette.
Pah, I say. Pah.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Anyone he's mostly saying I'm a jerk, an ad hominem, but I actually have a case for Pooky scum while Pooky is arguing that I am rude.
I caught Pooky scum again.
-Bell

[Milobird]

I also insulted Sircakez because he equated our approach and behavior when I was solving inbetween our spats while you were just spatting. It's the height of hypocrisy that you're saying that I didn't address Sircakez points. When you never addressed mine.

But Bell you say, I knew you were scum so I didn't read them and to that I say.

No, you're the scum because I'm solving and you're not.

-Bell

[Milobird]

This is important to me, I want Sircake'z A game and he wasn't bringing it.
I would like to win the game for town. Getting frustrated at someone is normal, albeit I will admit I was rude to Sircakez. But none of us are perfectly nice all of the time.
To my knowledge.
Probably.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm reading your posts

you literally don't do any solving

All you do is flame people who think you're scum by hand waving their accusations and calling them shitty players and saying they suck.

I just addressed Sircakez argument that you brought up, so I guess not.

-Bell

[Milobird]

As you can see all Bell can do in response to any accusations against him is begin a flame war where he calls whoever is pushing him either a bad player or a scumbag.

He can't actually address your post except by hand waving and calling you bad because he is a scumbag.

To be fair, by process of elimination you're a scum bag.

And I'm calling Sircakez Bad because he's town apparently.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Anyway, Pooky's argument is that I should die because I'm rude to people. This is not an actual case. It's meant to avoid real analysis of my play and choices in the game and go for an emotional argument.

This is another reason why Pooky is scum this game.

I hope this has been educational in learning about how Town Bell sees the world.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're calling Sir Cakes bad because you literally can't address any of his points against you

I just did.

[Milobird]

All you can do is hand wave and pretend he didn't actually read your ISO and then insult his playing ability.

Actually, I'm accusing you of never reading my iso because you're scum and ain't nobody got time for that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Anyway, Pooky's argument is that I should die because I'm rude to people. This is not an actual case. It's meant to avoid real analysis of my play and choices in the game and go for an emotional argument.

This is another reason why Pooky is scum this game.

I hope this has been educational in learning about how Town Bell sees the world.

-Bell

This is strawmanning my argument

I prefer to think of it as reducing your argument to the core conceit and strategy behind it.
It's a smear campaign and not a particularly good one.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I was addressing the points you were making. Feel free to continue to make a case while I dismantle it and show Sircakez how your posting reveals you as the remaining scum in this game.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Anyway, Pooky's argument is that I should die because I'm rude to people. This is not an actual case. It's meant to avoid real analysis of my play and choices in the game and go for an emotional argument.

This is another reason why Pooky is scum this game.

I hope this has been educational in learning about how Town Bell sees the world.

-Bell

This is strawmanning my argument

I prefer to think of it as reducing your argument to the core conceit and strategy behind it.
It's a smear campaign and not a particularly good one.

-Bell

If what I'm saying is shitty then why are you spamming so much to drown me out?

Given my opinion of Sircakez ability to analyze this game and my opinion that I must hand hold him to town victory. This also makes perfect sense and is the simple truth.
i can admit to myself that I am frustrated at Sircakez and act to show him that you're scum even though it's kind of obvious from my perspective (especially now).

-Bell

[Milobird]

no all you're doing is spamming the shit out of the thread because you are worried I will case you

when you case me I let you write whatever the fuck you want cuz I know it's all fake bullshit anyway

I had to repeatedly ask you to leave me alone. The case for fairness you're trying to make here and the respect you're requesting I will not give you.
No quarter. No mercy. Something something strike hard, fast, and accurately and not before they claim. etc. etc. QED. Lolololol.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm tired. Please hammer him so I can go home.
I live in a town house in case you were wondering, because I'm town (i don't really live in a town house, but I am town, so I don't really know where I was going with this).

-Bell

[Milobird]

I survived the final and have all day tomorrow to work here!!

Cool. I'm really happy you survived.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Calling things obvious from your PoV is dumb because obviously to you it's obvious who the scum is

There's plenty of different ways to interpret and correctly catch Pooky as scum. I have listed out many of them. Any of them should have clicked for you. But has not. You can argue that I just didn't say it the right way. But I gave you a bunch of completed Pooky puzzles.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I sort of feel like I'm saying post-game things pre-post-game.

-Bell

[Milobird]

OH YEA

LETS LOOK AT YOUR COMPLETED PUZZLES FROM TODAY

Polite scum.
Can't solve scum.
Dwlee outted you scum.
Ralts avoided his buddies scum.
Originality bussed his whole team scum.
Pooky has always wanted to do this scum.
Pooky is lazy as scum, scum.

Must I go on.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Ralts avoided his buddies scum.

what the fuck is this point.

Ralts voted for Gypyx-scum.

Ralts was replaced.

I replaced him.

I shot Gypyx-scum.

This is just a flat out lie by Bell here.

Lol, he was third on the wagon a classic scum post.

He sure was replaced, which is another reason you're more likely to be scum!

-Bell

[Milobird]

Pooky is lazy as scum, scum.

I literally have more posts than any player in the entire fucking game shut up(I'm dividing your posts by 2 cuz you're a hydra)

I'm talking about earlier in the game. You ere just kind of contentless. We had opinions and we could be judged for them. You didn't, really.
You're able to be more fluid as town. For example anon-shapes/colors game that just ended you were solving throughout the game and making original contributions on the regular.
Here, not so much.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Lol, he was third on the wagon a classic scum post.

He sure was replaced, which is another reason you're more likely to be scum!

-Bell

You can look at the first page

there are 9 names crossed out

9 replace-outs

not a single one of them are scum.

If you listened to Bell's bullshit line about replacements being more likely to be scum and killed all the replacements you would've gotten exactly 0 scum deaths.

This is a giant ball of garbage

Look man, you're scum with a red role PM. I get that, but continuing to pretend not to understand how statistics work is weird. Maybe you should have chosen another approach, like "i'm not" or "that's true, but I'm not"
-Bell

[Milobird]

Can't solve scum.

another lie.

I was solving fine until he started spamming the shit out of the thread to drown me out

Yes, you were just warming yourself up the last 9 days and on the 10th day you were gunna solve the game, but alas.
I disrupted you and now we have to start over.

-Bell

[Milobird]

1. Yes. It's unfortunate that I had opinions this game and that some of them were wrong.
2. I am obvtown.
3. I am obvtown tho.

It should've been my title.

-Bell

[Milobird]

But I did just answer. Oh you.
You're so cute.
*pinches scum Pooky's cheek*

-Bell

[Milobird]

Well, you keep saying I didn't answer Sircakez accusations and in response to that I went and did it and then you just kept saying I hadn't.
Er, it's not very patronizing when you're actually scum Pooky. Once that curtain comes down it's kind of hard to take your rage seriously.

-Bell

[Milobird]

This is an example of me solving for town Bell btw.
Do you see what I did there and how it reveals the context between the two of us and how it explains my response to their posts perfectly?
He's appealing to you for Fairness sircakez,
it has nothing to do with me.
But because I know he's scum, I just can't.
Does that make sense?

-Bell

[Milobird]

you can't address any of SirCakes accusations because you know you're guilty and don't have an actual explanation.

So all you can do is neg, handwave and insult his playing ability to try to make him feel bad for suspecting you.

Every single thing you have accused me of today I have been happy to respond to and show to be complete garbage because I'm town and I have nothing to hide.

I can easily answer all of his accusations by pointing out that town say dumb/wrong/annoying stuff all the time.
A reminder that Koba fucked up repeatedly and just kept on trucking and eventually he found Pooky scum. So he gets points for that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

it's hard to take you seriously when all you can do is spam and cry

Smile scumbear.
It'll all be over soon.

-Bell

[Milobird]

That's pretty much my town play yeah.

-Bell

[Milobird]

In Warehouse 13. Penguin alien made a post about how annoyed she was at how I was playing as town because it was obnoxious.
And Grayice was shitting on me in game about that (he was scum) in lieu of scum hunting because that's what scum do.
I took that feedback to heart some, but I'm gunna fall off the wagon occassionally and in the heat of the moment I will rage post and default back to my own temperament.
It's not great.

-Bell

[Milobird]

But I answered his questions.
He saw things that pissed him off because we said ignorant things in our ignorance of who the scum were.


-Bell

[Milobird]

This is like a shitty imitation of your town game

The highest form of flattery. But we both know that you needed to do more and you couldn't step up.
Well, maybe not. Maybe Cakez will hammer us and you did do enough and your pocket was good enough.
But I hope not.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Do you actually enjoy being an asshole?

Mastina often creates arguments around appeals to authority and in part, given how close the Titus wagon was from happening. I believe Mastina was just trying to build some of her authority by being "right on Titus"
It's not my fault the scum team missed the boat/were chickens who wouldn't out one of their number to get her wagon done. They deserved to lose Mastina because they were clutching their own status and positions.

[Milobird]

I genuinely doubt you're taking any of this personally with a red role pm.
Saying Titus is inaccurate is not an insult, it's an observation. I'm not very accurate either. Which is why we're here when you think about it.
Good night Pooks.

-Bell

[Milobird]

like maybe you forgot you spent the start of today trying to fearmonger about how good my winrate as scum is and now you've decided it's time to troll pooky about "not being good enough"

like what r u even doing at this point?

That was Notty. I've said that before.
I don't make those sorts of arguments, because they don't make much sense to me. I mean, beyond the fact that it simply means you're more proficient at fooling others. It's not a crime to point that out.
It's also not a crime to say you've struggled to do some real solving this game. It's hard to do. I couldn't and got eliminated once for it in Pooky versus Flavorleaf. Mastina literally said "if you can't solve I am going to kill you" and I became a magicarp.
You have your tricks, but you needed substance. Probably. Maybe not. You win most of your scum games without it and just by having the right attitude. Maybe? I'm not sure how you win or how you think you win your scum games. But you're very persuasive, just not hard solvey.

Which I guess is why you latched unto it and decided to beat up an argument I didn't make.
But the owner ain't here. So.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I am kind of hyperaware of what I need to do in order to win scum games and I get pretty overwhelmed. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings by asking of you the one thing you couldn't do.
Fake solving is hard. I couldn't when point blank asked to and flailed instead. I'm a little surprised you can't either, but maybe at the very core of things you and I are not so different Pooks.

Wow. That was Cheesy.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I think bells crazy and I’d argue Pooky played the best of anyone this game. I think if this were us versus most anyone else here it wouldn’t be this difficult.

[Milobird]

From here until the rest of the game we will be the forward direction of tenet. Back direction no longer.

Tea and crumpets.

Cakez, my bottom line is Pooky has been buddying you for days. You have to know that being brought to MELO with someone like that looks super sus.

[Milobird]

I think bells crazy and I’d argue Pooky played the best of anyone this game. I think if this were us versus most anyone else here it wouldn’t be this difficult.

I’m pointing out he can’t fake solve good. Not that he’s a bad player or that other people would’ve done better. I am aware that (and correct me if I’m wrong surfaces/delusional) that you’re(sircakez) *probably* going to make the correct decision and vote pooky.

I’m post gaming pre-post game posting.
My phone posting is auto correcting me.

-Bell

[Milobird]

you say titus sucks

you mock me for not being good enough

you call cakes a moron who is pocketed.

like you know this is a game right?

Perspective slip in line 2. Solved for Pooky.
Additionally note pooky’s attitude toward Koba scum and the tack he is taking here. He compliments Kobe’s ruthless scum game but is arguing here that I’m being too ruthless by saying stuff in anger and frustration. Which tbh. I probably need to apologize for. I will after the game since I don’t carry feelings forward.

Other addressed stuff before I go to work.
1. Already stated what I meant in regards to Titus. I don’t think they’re accurate. That’s fine. I’m not very accurate either.
2. I’m not actually mocking you though. I just think what you needed to do to win you couldn’t do. You shot gyphx. But you needed more. Probably. We’ll find out.
3. Eh. I said this yes. Sorry Sircakez, I was just very frustrated because you seemed to be ignoring stuff that was valid stuff.

Work time.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Isn’t it a known fact bell is trash at scum?

One of those two facts is broken now. Which is it.

[Milobird]

Like cakez dude you’ve literally been paranoid of us since day one why would we EVER bring you here

[Milobird]

I mean you are kind of playing like trash since all you can do is repeat "i'm not scum kill pooky" on a loop like a broken clock

Weren’t you the one saying bells graduated from bad scum?

Please make up your mind

Ninja-
Pooky v fl off the top of my head, iirc smoke chamber

Why do you think morph always sorts him so fast lol

Ninja-
You call it paranoia about Pooky but that’s paranoia lol

[Milobird]

We wouldn’t even be in this situation if you guys hadn’t fucking killed Koba

[Milobird]

See, one of two things is going to happen

Either I’m going to be right

Or towns going to win the game

So I’m happy regardless of the outcome

[Milobird]

if you read the entire game he kills like 4/5 of the scum team and his posts are actually about scum hunting and not waxing poetic about how he's obvtown

Selective meta selection plenty of lazy bell games: see: xenoblade 2. Warehouse mafia which is more in line with my play here.

My elo play in death curse is very similar if not the same.

I do not think the argument that Pooky (anemically voting originality) is actually a contribution. If anything it’s an obvious scum tell. Because he does not add weight to the the push at all. There’s plenty of space for him to back out or go elskwhere.

[Milobird]

Also, a reminder that Pooky is extremely combative. I am easily baited. If left alone I solve. If attacked I defend.
Also, I don’t really agree because I was quite emotional in death curse.
I also had a point where I procrastinated after we killed 3/5 scum and said as much repeatedly in that game. But this just demonstrates that Pooky is largely dishonest with a representation of my play.
Though there are a lot of parallels that would help you see I’m town here in death curse if you pay close enough attention.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I think I understand more how sircakez hunts. He doesn’t seem to have developed past a newer player’s mindset in regards to players. Rather he hasn’t made the connection that not only do town fuck up a lot but that they fuck up loud (e.g., koba, bell, Mastina) while scum try to obfuscate their mistakes and errors.

Note Pooky has blamed Koba had wrong reads repeatedly but he’s also mirroring your own mindset. That being wrong just means you’re scum when that’s not true. You need to be able to see not just what someone does but also what someone thinks. I can save this for post game though.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Bell stop posting at work

[Milobird]

@cakez how many people were in that melo and was bell in the 1v1

[Milobird]

Hmmm was there a day when we had four people alive here and bell spent most of the day solving while everyone else (sans mastina) did fuckall

Hmmmmmm

Why does that sound familiar

[Milobird]

I literally started right at the fidget getting the scroll and one of the first responses from Pooky is “bell stop being mean to noraa”

lol

[Milobird]

I’d argue bells change in behavior is simply due to increased duress between the games. There he was in the final four but it didn’t really feel like he was suspected at all? So he was able to solve versus fighting off his back foot. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looked almost like a popcorn style where you leave the towniest people alive.

Which makes this kinda a bad faith comparison and should instead be comparing bell when he is locked in a 1v1 in MELO and not UTR trying to make a decision in MELO

Ninja-
No it’s out secret third head mith

[Milobird]

My legal team has informed me that I must make sure it is known the mith part is a joke.

[Milobird]

And you can fact check that cakez instead of just skimming the ISO like Pooky tried to have you do. Pooky and MCat suspected each other, and the only scum alive (Noraa) was suspecting Bell. I’m pretty sure someone (Pooky iirc) made a comment about shooting Bell/Noraa being a scumclaim, yet he’s trying to compare the play here to the play where bells in the UTR slot? That’s not how you meta people at all.

[Milobird]

MCat went Pooky>Bell>Noraa
Pooky went MCat>Bell=Noraa
Noraa put everyone at null

Entirely different situation.

[Milobird]

8684-8685 looking like an insult from my POV, right after that link Pooky shared.

[Milobird]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12333680

[Milobird]

Honestly just hammer us so I can take the loss and shove you two throwing in your faces

Ninja-
You wish, bear.

I’d selfhammer here but people who do that in MELO are the worst breed

[Milobird]

Also I can’t mock kobas hammer if I do the same

[Milobird]

My only regret this game was quick hammering wisdom.

Go on and end this shit so I don’t have to think about this fucking game anymore

[Milobird]

Yup, you got me

Maybe I should just tell them they are scumhunting geniuses and buddy them? That seems to be the strategy that worked to win you the game

[Milobird]

A+ MELO composition, the guy who tilts the longer he’s alive, and the two who haven’t been actually playing in days

You deserve the win bear

[Milobird]

I haven’t had fun playing this game for ducking days

[Milobird]

I’ve literally been asking them to end it for days instead of dragging this out because it’s clear as day Cakez isn’t going to get out of his pocket

The fact we wasted another entire cycle during finals season is fucking dumb

[Milobird]

I'm currently leaning towards limming Milobird.

Get your shit together.

If you genuinely believe this is the MELO I choose to setup after your recent experiences with scum me you’re trolling.