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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:05 am
by Save The Dragons
i just don't see vulture!scum going after noraa and trying for the bus when they could have just got an easy lim on me yesterday and won
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:09 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I don't think that's true. Maybw you weren't the most townread slot at that point, but if both Vulture/Noraa went hard for you at that moment then the whole game might have turned very different because who would theoretical scum!STD be paired with then? If Noraa pushed you there then it would make you either have to be paired with me or TA or something.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:10 am
by NorwegianboyEE
And i don't think an battle fought on the premise of Norwee/STD is one that Noraa/Vulture would have a high chance of winning at that point.
Vulture and Ydrasse played smarter than that.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:11 am
by Save The Dragons
i think TA was scumreading my slot at beginning of elo so all they needed to do was wait for TA to jump on me and then noraa could have hammered if vulture went into the day with a vote on my slot.
i just don't think it was necessary to bus so why bus if it's not necessary?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:13 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I theorized that it might be planned from before the night that they would play out the rest of the game that way, and that Vulture's hasty vote on Noraa cements that idea.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:13 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Check it out yourself. They just voted like that when it could have been an gameloss if they were wrong.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:14 am
by NorwegianboyEE
If they had an town mindset and it was wrong.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:14 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 726, Vulture wrote:I'm tired and feel like crap and probably not going to put a lot more thought into this game. If I'm wrong scum'll hammer if not, happy to confirm that it's between me/Noraa today. Partner's probably STD who's finding every reason to waffle on Noraa and shade me for voting redtea, even though I had laid out a lot more reasoning why redtea was scum in my eyes at the time of posting that content.
VOTE: Noraa
tl;dr Noraa pushed redtea with the same reasons that they used to describe their viewpoint of the game in
724 (also, note that this post does the most work in giving a reason to townread TA who is townreading Noraa) earlier on, and then switched to defending redtea at the end of the day yesterday so that they could make a WIFOM argument of 'why would I do this as scum!' Also the hammer D1. Also, they're giving reasons to townread everyone to keep their options open.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:15 am
by NorwegianboyEE
It does make sense, and i don't want to lose to Ydrasse like this. I've lost too many ElO's as the town that get's mislimmed.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:16 am
by Vulture
I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:17 am
by Vulture
Like I literally could just vote STD at -any time- and not lock myself into a bussing plan because TA wanted Dragons dead and so did you do like, if you’re town here I literally would just need one of you two to agree and then it’s good. That’s so much easier and viable than wasting my time today.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:17 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1009, Vulture wrote:I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.
Which betrays your plan, because why would town want to go for the harder lim in ElO if you truly believed it could be STD as well as Noraa.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:18 am
by Vulture
In post 761, Vulture wrote:FWIW I ~feel strongly~ it’s Noraa and STD and given that one of those is a radically harder elim than the other, I tried to force it today so tomorrow could be an easy day of voting out STD.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:19 am
by Vulture
In post 1011, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 1009, Vulture wrote:I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.
Which betrays your plan, because why would town want to go for the harder lim in ElO if you truly believed it could be STD as well as Noraa.
Because I’d rather just send it then than lose in 3-ELO if I have to 1v1 Noraa there, and I felt confident enough that it was Noraa to do so.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:22 am
by Vulture
Like me bussing Noraa is me jumping through hoops... or I could just kill the person everyone suspects and sell it as “oh Dragons is just getting bussed here” and then let Noraa pocket people and then there you go scum wins and we don’t have to do convoluted theatre we hope people believe for no reason.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:59 am
by Save The Dragons
std, it's just a game. it doesn't matter what you do this will have little consequence over your life as a whole. if you get it right, great, if not, you tried. plus you found noraa out so that's a good thing.
i think this is the right decision. if it's not, my bad.
VOTE: Norwee
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:00 am
by Vulture
I was town!!! Yay.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:01 am
by Vulture
Norwee, was the plan to pocket me until I voted Noraa?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:01 am
by Vulture
Also sorry if that was stressful Dragons. >_< To be suspected and then suddenly choosing.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:04 am
by Save The Dragons
i think i'm okay it's just been a hard week
in the end i kept thinking about it and my mind wasn't changing it just had to be norwee to make any sense
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:05 am
by Vulture
I hope the next one thin will go easy on you. <3
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:08 am
by Save The Dragons
thanks i hope so
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:23 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I didn’t think your mind was changing, but i had to try.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:24 am
by Save The Dragons
i tred you the entire game
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:25 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Really, the plan was for me to just buss Noraa like i said you did. But Noraa wanted to brute force it so i went along it. And it was the wrong play.